Is anyone's Pastor or Priest okay with abortion? POLL

[FireDragon76]

Sad that some professing Christians are okay with destroying a life

What does acceptance of something's reality have to do with necessarily approving of another person's choices ? I am not a woman so I am not a primary stakeholder in this issue. I accept that abortion laws must be a compromise between often conflicting values, and that extremism on this issue is not a realistic approach to a just society.

 

[Gregory95]

Sick is the people who try and justify this

Graphic: LIVE Abortion Video on Display in Washington

 

[Gregory95]

Are we called to be of this world or of Christ and just IN this world

Here is what you are trying to justify detroying

Graphic: LIVE Abortion Video on Display in Washington

What does acceptance of something's reality have to do with necessarily approving of another person's choices ? I am not a woman so I am not a primary stakeholder in this issue. I accept that abortion laws must be a compromise between often conflicting values, and that extremism on this issue is not a realistic approach to a just society.

 

[Gregory95]

Its a very simple issue that only those in favor of it try and muddy the issue


Simple did the life in the womb ask to be there NO thus its NOT the life's fault thus there is no way to justify ending a life that has done no wrong nor has asked to be there

What does acceptance of something's reality have to do with necessarily approving of another person's choices ? I am not a woman so I am not a primary stakeholder in this issue. I accept that abortion laws must be a compromise between often conflicting values, and that extremism on this issue is not a realistic approach to a just society.

 

[FireDragon76]

Its a very simple issue that only those in favor of it try and muddy the issue


Simple did the life in the womb ask to be there NO thus its NOT the life's fault thus there is no way to justify ending a life that has done no wrong nor has asked to be there

You are considering abortion merely from the perspective of the embryo (assuming it has any subjectivity at all, which I doubt), not the woman.

 

[Gregory95]

Wow this speaks volumes to your doctrine


Read the OT see how abortion of a animal is not taken lightly yet WE ARE OVER THEM

So its not a leap in the dark how we should view ending a human life

Did you watch the video and see what you support

Can a woman kill her child post birth based on your logic do you want mothers with post partom depression to legally be able to kill the children they carried and birthed them

Obviously that would be wrong

Oh how satan loves the division

Praise be to Christ God has won the war and we await the day the battle is over

You are considering abortion merely from the perspective of the embryo (assuming it has any subjectivity at all, which I doubt), not the woman.

 

[SPF]

Being and person are not the same thing, whether or not the Bible distinguishes between the two. Nicene Christology, for instance, most certainly does distinguish between being and person.

There are no developed nations that consider a zygote to be a person. To prove murder in court you need to have actual evidence that a murder has taken place, and I don't see how that can be done without unjust intrusions into peoples private lives.

I fail to see how this response is relevant to what you quoted from me. I said Scripture makes no distinction between a human being and a human person. I wasn’t talking about the Nicene creed (which you just asserted and didn’t even demonstrate to be true), and the secular law which has 100% no bearing on the morality of abortion.

I am not a woman so I am not a primary stakeholder in this issue.

This is just funny. You are indeed a primary stakeholder as you at one time were the unborn inside your mother.

 

[FireDragon76]

I fail to see how this response is relevant to what you quoted from me. I said Scripture makes no distinction between a human being and a human person. I wasn’t talking about the Nicene creed (which you just asserted and didn’t even demonstrate to be true), and the secular law which has 100% no bearing on the morality of abortion.

This is just funny. You are indeed a primary stakeholder as you at one time were the unborn inside your mother.

Making the personal political is the stuff of ideologues.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

I think many of the pastors quietly support every social justice element including abortion. But I don't think they are ready to admit it.

Please don't jump to a conclusion with this one. Maybe you should get hold of your pastor and ask them and then get back to us with a for-sure answer?

M-Bob

 

[Mountainmanbob]

There are no developed nations that consider a zygote to be a person. To prove murder in court you need to have actual evidence that a murder has taken place, and I don't see how that can be done without unjust intrusions into peoples private lives.

I think that would be false?
There are many states and places where if somebody kills a pregnant woman the Killer is charged with two murders and many times convicted of the two (KILLINGS).
M-Bob

 

[Gregory95]

As much as i hope people would wake up to reality

The Bible is true in saying

In the end times love will wax cold

I think that would be false?
There are many states and places where if somebody kills a pregnant woman the Killer is charged with two murders and many times convicted of the two (KILLINGS).
M-Bob

 

[GodLovesCats]

Sad that some professing Christians are okay with destroying a life

Christians understand the unborn is not more important than the mother it depends on for life.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Many if not most Christians believe that the baby is (just as important) as the mother.

((Who is anybody)) to belittle the little one?

What if that was you in there?
I guess that might make a difference?

M-Bob

 

[SPF]

Christians understand the unborn is not more important than the mother it depends on for life.

I don't know of any Christian that has ever said the unborn is more important than their mother. Do you? So I'm not sure the relevance of that statement.

Keep in mind that your quote is also true of how Jesus feels about the unborn.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Christians understand the unborn is not more important than the mother it depends on for life.

As a Christian and as a mother of nine children, I have to disagree with your assumption. I had very difficult pregnancies with pre-eclampsia and there were a couple of times I was told my life was at risk, but I never once considered ending the life of my unborn child. During my seventh month of my first pregnancy, my then OBGYN advised me to abort my baby because some tests results came back that my son had Downs. She tried to pressure me into aborting by insisting that it would be more humane for my child if I didn't allow him to be born with Downs. My husband and I outright refused and as it turns out, our eldest son didn't have Downs. He's a healthy 25 year old young man.

 

[Gregory95]

So you have the right to pick who lives and dies?

Christians understand the unborn is not more important than the mother it depends on for life.

 

[RaymondG]

Many if not most Christians believe that the baby is (just as important) as the mother.

((Who is anybody)) to belittle the little one?

What if that was you in there?
I guess that might make a difference?

M-Bob

Do you believe that a Husband would say that about the wife and mother of his unborn child?...specifically if she is having complications? Do you believe a wife would desire to hear this?

 

[RaymondG]

So you have the right to pick who lives and dies?

Do you believe that humans are able to decide who lives and who dies? can we be cut short when God says to live on? Can we live on when God says to die?

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Do you believe that a Husband would say that about the wife and mother of his unborn child?...specifically if she is having complications? Do you believe a wife would desire to hear this?

Yes, because that was my Christian husband during my nine pregnancies.

 

[RaymondG]

Yes, because that was my Christian husband during my nine pregnancies.

And you feel that all should believe and feel as you.....or they are lesser in some way?