The Inspiration of Scripture

[Strong in Him]

Proverbs 18:22
He who finds a wife finds a good thing And obtains favor from the Lord.

IOW, with no wife you lose a measure of favor from the Lord.

Oh, so all those monks and nuns who are dedicated to the single life and spend their time praying for the rest of us, are out of favour with God?

They're not; they can serve the Lord more wholeheartedly as single people, 1 Corinthians 7:32-35. And what's more, Paul says that if they were single when they were saved they should not seek to get married, 1 Corinthians 7:27.
Unmarried people don't have the blessing of children, which are said to be a gift from the Lord, and in those days, childlessness was a judgement from God. Not all married couples have children though.

 

[Loversofjesus_2018]

Pick your favorite flavor and run with it. Oh, and realize that not everyone is going to agree with the way you believe.

It seems to be so hard for us to accept that maybe others don’t think the same lol

 

[A Realist]

Everybody cannot be 100% right and have different interpretations. And how arrogant is to say well your wrong and I’m right? Again I can’t imagine the intentions were to be this confusing.

Look, man....I'm agreeing with you here.....

 

[Dave-W]

Oh, so all those monks and nuns who are dedicated to the single life and spend their time praying for the rest of us, are out of favour with God?

I believe many of them are - yes.

And celibate priests - that is in violation of scripture. Congregational leaders are to be the "husband of one wife."

 

[Loversofjesus_2018]

God's Word claims that it is perfect (Psalms 12:6) (Psalms 119:140) (Proverbs 30:5) and that it will be preserved for all generations (Psalms 12:7) and it will stand forever (Isaiah 40:8) (1 Peter 1:25). Therefore, seeing Scripture plainly states these facts, it then becomes an issue of a test of your faith in God's Word (See the test the devil gave to Eve in Genesis 3:1); For the Bereans were more noble because they compared the spoken Word of God with the written Word of God (Acts of the Apostles 17:11). In other words, if the Bereans thought the written Word was corrupt in some way they would have no way of really knowing if the spoken Word of God was true or not.

But you did say you have to pray and get understanding from the Lord. What if we think we heard right but actually it was the next person who heard right? How can you know for sure? You can’t say scripture because the reason you prayed for understanding was because scripture wasn’t clear.

 

[A Realist]

But you did say you have to pray and get understanding from the Lord. What if we think we heard right but actually it was the next person who heard right? How can you know for sure? You can’t say scripture because the reason you prayed for understanding was because scripture wasn’t clear.

Don't chase the rabbit down the hole....it's deep and branches off in many directions.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Everybody cannot be 100% right and have different interpretations. And how arrogant is to say well your wrong and I’m right? Again I can’t imagine the intentions were to be this confusing.

Do airplane engineers argue on the interpretation of airplane manuals they just made? Surely not. There are basic rules to reading any communicated text or writing. With the Bible, there are basic ways for you to understand it.

#1. Pray for the understanding (Note: Sometimes this can include continual prayer, and or fasting).
#2. Look at the context (Does it fit the whole of the chapter or the previous chapters?).
#3. If there is a word that is in question, look at how this word is used in other places of the Bible (Note: You can do this via BlueLetterBible.org).
#4. Look at cross references (Note: Best place I found for a searching for cross references is Openbible.org).
#5. Does the interpretation line up with basic morality or the goodness of God?
#6. Look at different translations (with having a final word of authority - i.e. the KJV, Cambridge Edition circa 1900.).
#7. Read a ton of Christian articles on the verse or topic in the Bible (Note: Please be careful to which teachers you listen to; While they may be correct on some things, that does not mean they may be 100% infallible in everything they say or teach).

 

[Loversofjesus_2018]

Look, man....I'm agreeing with you here.....

Oh I know lol sorry if it came across wrong. Was so excited that maybe someone understands my thinking I keep responding to you haha

 

[Bible Highlighter]

But you did say you have to pray and get understanding from the Lord. What if we think we heard right but actually it was the next person who heard right? How can you know for sure? You can’t say scripture because the reason you prayed for understanding was because scripture wasn’t clear.

See Post #347.

 

[FireDragon76]

I believe many of them are - yes.

And celibate priests - that is in violation of scripture. Congregational leaders are to be the "husband of one wife."

This is the perfect example of the sort of thing I don't believe is actually God's speech, at least as it is being articulated here.

 

[Loversofjesus_2018]

Do airplane engineers argue on the interpretation of the blue prints they just made? Surely not. There are basic rules to reading any communicated text or writing. With the Bible, there are basic ways for you to understand it.

#1. Pray for the understanding (Note: Sometimes this can include continual prayer, and or fasting).
#2. Look at the context (Does it fit the whole of the chapter or the previous chapters?).
#3. If there is a word that is in question, look at how this word is used in other places of the Bible.
#4. Look at cross references.
#5. Does the interpretation line up with basic morality or the goodness of God?
#6. Look at different translations (with having a final word of authority - i.e. the KJV).
#7. Read a ton of Christian articles on the verse or topic in the Bible.

I’m not very interested in blueprints to airplanes. However I am very very interested in making sure I understand anything that is attributed to the Lord.

 

[Tree of Life]

Christian Forums just fell to a C plus.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

I’m not very interested in blueprints to airplanes. However I am very very interested in making sure I understand anything that is attributed to the Lord.

I already told you. I listed 7 points for you to follow.

 

[Loversofjesus_2018]

I already told you. I listed 7 points for you to follow.

Yes you did and I appreciate it. I just always come back to “what if I’m wrong” I’m not one who thinks my interpretation is 100% accurate without question.

 

[Loversofjesus_2018]

I already told you. I listed 7 points for you to follow.

Thanks again for giving me your point of view.

 

[Tone]

It never says shellfish are to be considered "food."

True. Shellfish, pig, and blood of animals is still unclean...scientifically provable, in fact. They are never made unclean by what is Written...just like homosexuality...these things do not perpetuate life.

*These are discussions for other threads...

**1 Timothy 4:5

 

[Calvin_1985]

The Bible is Gods word. It is the book of life that holds all the objective answers to all of humanities questions..our origins, the ways in which things should be conducted individually, corporately, nationally, globally, spiritually, and physically. It testifies to the very fabric of life, meaning the path in which all humans take outside of the will of God and there are countless examples of what it looks like to have a relationship with Father. The Bible shows us the presence of God. It gives us examples of the methods of interactions that God has with Humanity so that we can objectively know that the Spirit we encounter and follow is truly him or of the enemy. The Bible contains countless examples of Yahwehs interactions with The Creation so that we can objectively know and cannot be accused by the world that what we experience is not just some imaginative thing we conjour up inside. Much of humanity ask questions like "How can God be true if History shows that Religion has done nothing but evil and brought devastation?" Well the Bible shows us that as well. It shows us through His setting apart of Israel and takes their actions of rebellion in producing a religion rather than following Gods ways and Laws to show us what happens and we see that very same thing play out over and over when the Church turns their back on the True relationship with Father and sets up an institutional religion in His name. Again, the Bible shows us the examples of all paths Humanity take and shows the results. Within the example of Israel you have multiple examples of answers to the many questions that people both in and outside of Faith. Within the story of Usrael you have examples of everything from Eternal Security to apostasy to true worship. It the ways of men and trusting that that cause so many to deny the Bible as God's word written by His own Spirit through the men He chose to pen it on to paper. This goes far beyond just the mere black and white words, but to the very messages and examples given that remain intact perfectly from beginning to end.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Yes you did and I appreciate it. I just always come back to “what if I’m wrong” I’m not one who thinks my interpretation is 100% accurate without question.

We can be wrong on many things in life. But when it comes to God's Word: God is not going to make it impossible for you to understand His Word if you employ the methods or tools out there that He has given to us. For God will help you to understand it.

"But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him." (1 John 2:27).

If your motives are pure, and not selfish, or dark, and you honestly want to know the truth of God's Word with no hidden agenda or wrong teaching that comes from a man or popular religious leader, you can know the truth via by the Spirit.

 

[Loversofjesus_2018]

The Bible is Gods word. It is the book of life that holds all the objective answers to all of humanities questions..our origins, the ways in which things should be conducted individually, corporately, nationally, globally, spiritually, and physically. It testifies to the very fabric of life, meaning the path in which all humans take outside of the will of God and there are countless examples of what it looks like to have a relationship with Father. The Bible shows us the presence of God. It gives us examples of the methods of interactions that God has with Hunanity so that we can objectively know that the Spirit we encounter and follow is truly him or of the enemy. The Bible contains countless examples of Yahwehs interactions with The Creation so that we can objectively know and cannot be accused by the world that what we experience is not just some imaginative thing we conjour up inside. Much of humanity ask questions like "How can God be true if History shows that Religion has done nothing but evil and brought devastation?" Well the Bible shows us that as well. It shows us through His setting apart of Israel and takes their actions of rebellion in producing a religion rather than following Gods ways and Laws to show us what happens and we see that very same thing play out over and over when the Church turns their back on the True relationship with Father and sets up an institutional religion in His name. Again, the Bible shows us the examples of all paths Humanity take and shows the results. Within the example of Israel you have multiple examples of answers to the many questions that people both in and outside of Faith. Within the story of Usrael you have examples of everything from Eternal Security to apostasy to true worship. It the ways of men and trusting that that cause so many to deny the Bible as Gids word written by His own Spirit through the men He chose to pen it on to paper. This goes far beyond just the mere black and white words, but to the very messages and examples given that remain intact perfectly from beginning to end.

Great point of view. Enjoyed reading

 

[Tree of Life]

Boom. We are back up to a B minus.