The Inspiration of Scripture

What the Bible says, God says.


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The Bible is inspired by God. What does this mean?

Simply put - "What the Bible says, God says."

Some say that the Bible is inspired, but they are not comfortable saying that the Bible is the very words of God. They have some looser, stranger view of inspiration.

What the Bible says, God says. Can we give this a hearty "Amen"?
 
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The Bible is inspired by God. What does this mean?

Simply put - "What the Bible says, God says."

I find that an interesting discussion, since we have God (Jesus the Christ) in the New Testament actually changing old law :) Which of course is the New Testament of Jesus the Christ.

I consider Jesus' words over anything that contradicts Him though. If I find contradictions.
 
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Some say that the Bible is inspired, but they are not comfortably saying that the Bible is the very words of God. They have some looser, stranger view of inspiration.
Do you think the bible is "the very words of God"?
 
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Do you think it was dictated word-for-word as Muslims claim about the Koran?

No. I believe in organic inspiration. But the end result of organic inspiration is that the Bible contains every word that God wanted it to contain in order to convey his speech to us.
 
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No. I believe in organic inspiration. But the end result of organic inspiration is that the Bible contains every word that God wanted it to contain in order to convey his speech to us.

And how can we measure whether each and every word in the Bible contains that and only that which God intended it to contain? By using the Bible to measure the Bible?
 
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The Bible is inspired by God. What does this mean? Simply put - "What the Bible says, God says." Some say that the Bible is inspired, but they are not comfortably saying that the Bible is the very words of God. They have some looser, stranger view of inspiration. What the Bible says, God says. Can we give this a hearty "Amen"?
:amen:
 
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And how can we measure whether each and every word in the Bible contains that and only that which God intended it to contain? By using the Bible to measure the Bible?

Yes.
 
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"So Philip ran to him and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet and asked, “Do you understand what you are reading?” 31 And he said, “How can I, unless someone guides me?” And he invited Philip to come up and sit with him" (Acts 8:30-31).
 
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"So Philip ran to him and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet and asked, “Do you understand what you are reading?” 31 And he said, “How can I, unless someone guides me?” And he invited Philip to come up and sit with him" (Acts 8:30-31).

You're quoting the very words of God. I love it!
 
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And how can we measure whether each and every word in the Bible contains that and only that which God intended it to contain? By using the Bible to measure the Bible?
The Bible was not designed to be a textbook of science and history, but what it says in the way of history and science is absolutely true. But we need to distinguish the parts of the Bible that are written for us in terms of our education and encouragement, and what is written to us as doctrine and direct instruction.

For example, "Judas went out and hanged himself". That was written about what Judas did when he became deeply depressed about what he had done to Christ, but that doesn't mean that we should go and do the same when we get depressed. The description of Judas was written for us, but not to us.

But when Paul wrote: "Be not drunk with wine wherein is excess, but be filled with the Spirit, singing to yourselves in psalms, hymns and spiritual songs" he wrote to us because this is his direct instruction for every believer then and now.

When Elijah called down fire on the altar at Mt Carmel and then killed all the prophets of Baal, that was written for us and not to us, because we are not instructed to call down fire on altars or kill false prophets.

But when Paul wrote to the Corinthian church he wrote:
"Paul, called to be an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and our brother Sosthenes, to the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be his holy people, together with all those everywhere who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ—their Lord and ours: Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ" (1 Corinthians 1:1-3), he was writing to us, so that the whole of 1 Corinthians applies to us in our day as much as it did to the Corinthians and every Christian believer in every other church where Paul's letter went.

But we have some prejudiced religious (not Bible) teachers who take 1 Corinthians 12 and 14 and say they are written for us in our day and not to us. This is not what Paul pointed out at all. He said quite clearly that everything he wrote to the Corinthian church applies to every Christian believer everywhere, in his time and in ours.

So, once we have distinguished between what is for our education and encouragement, and what is to us for direct instruction, then we can approach the Bible with confidence knowing that we can rely on it for knowing God's plan and purpose for our lives and how we can live holy and righteously in this world.
 
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The Bible is inspired by God. What does this mean?

Simply put - "What the Bible says, God says."

Some say that the Bible is inspired, but they are not comfortably saying that the Bible is the very words of God. They have some looser, stranger view of inspiration.

What the Bible says, God says. Can we give this a hearty "Amen"?

AMEN!!:amen:
 
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Glad to see you place unquestioning trust in the people who canonized it.
Hi Chesterton, where did Tree say that?
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--David

2 Peter 3
15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote to you with the wisdom that God gave him.
16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
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Hi Chesterton, where did Tree say that? View attachment 255625

--David

2 Peter 3
15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote to you with the wisdom that God gave him.
16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
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He said we can use the bible to measure the bible. That would have to indicate complete faith in the men who canonized the bible.
 
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He said we can use the bible to measure the bible. That would have to indicate complete faith in the men who canonized the bible.

I have confidence in the Bible because it is God's word, not because it was recognized as such by the church.
 
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