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Luke 21:24
Discuss.................
The greek word used is #g142, which is a taking away, such as captive or "rapture".
Strong's Concordance with Hebrew and Greek Lexicon
142. airo a primary root;
to lift up; by implication, to take up or away; figuratively, to raise (the voice), keep in suspense (the mind), specially, to sail away (i.e. weigh anchor); by Hebraism (compare 5375) to expiate sin:--away with, bear (up), carry, lift up, loose, make to doubt, put away, remove, take (away, up).
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Matthew 21:43
Therefore I am saying to ye, that the Kingdom of the God shall be being taken away<142> from Ye, and it shall be being given to a Nation doing the Fruits of it.
This became fulfilled in 70ad.........
John 11:48
"If ever we may be letting Him thus, all shall be believing into Him, and shall be coming the Romans<4514> and they shall be taking away<142> of Us, and the Place and the Nation."
G142 is used in the 70ad Jerusalem/Temple discourse:
Matthew 24 Mount of Olives and Titus's 10th Legion on Mt Olives 70ad
Mat 24:39
17 “Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house.
18 “And let him who is in the field not go back to take his clothes.
39 “and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
Mar 13:
15“Let him who is on the housetop not go down into the house, nor enter to take anything out of his house.
16 “And let him who is in the field not go back to take his clothes.
Luk 17:31
“In that day, he who is on the housetop, and his goods are in the house, let him not come down to take them away.
And likewise the one who is in the field, let him not turn back.
https://www.preteristarchive.com/JewishWars/timeline_military.html
"..probably the greatest single slaughter in ancient history."
ROMAN SIEGE AND SACK OF JERUSALEM
The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
The day on which Titus encompassed Jerusalem, was the feast of the Passover.
and it is deserving of the very particular attention of the reader, that this was the anniversary of that memorable period in which the Jews crucified their Messiah........!
Nevertheless, the city was at this time crowded with Jewish strangers, and foreigners from all parts, so that the whole nation may be considered as having been shut up in one prison, preparatory to the execution of the Divine vengeance ;
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TribulationSigns said: ↑
Christ came to the City of Jerusalem (which was His people), and they rejected him as their foundation stone of the city and sanctuary. As a result, by their rejection, they themselves did destroy both city and sanctuary. Nevertheless, Christ has become the headstone of another building. The kingdom representation was taken from Jews and given to another.
In Matthew 21:40-45, Jesus tells a strikingly different tale than you do about WHO did the destroying at the taking of the Kingdom from the Jews and giving to another.
Not only that but He also tells a different tale than you do about what event that was. Namely, “The coming of the lord of the vineyard”.
When faced with which of these opposite tales to believe, yours, or that of Christ Jesus, my money is on The Son of God.
Please let be rational here. If you believe Christ was talking about someone who physically took "kingdom" from the Jews, then who did the destroyer gave the kingdom to? Humm?
Really, you think so? But now you have to explain how something that you go to great lengths to theorize must be taken very literally, is now mysteriously not very literally when it comes to God's very specific qualification of the prophecy as not one stone would be left standing one upon another.
Agreed! My money is on the Lord is the one who righteously Judges and I am comfortable with that! Good luck with your 70AD theory at the feet of the Lord of the Vineyard on Judgment Day!
TribulationSigns said: ↑
Contrary to some people who posted here, Luke 21:24 is not talking about the physical city of Jerusalem in the Middle East in 70AD
The above posts were quoted on another thread and I thought the verse mentioned in John 11 should be looked at more closely, especially since the word "Roman/s" is used in only this 1 verse of the Gospels, John 11:48.Then how do YOU interpret Matthew 21:40-45?
I just want to clarify: it wasn't the Jews, in general (we wouldn't have the early church at all, if it weren't for faithful Jewish followers of Jesus). It was the religious leaders and their power/control of the Temple as they are recorded as having here (and concerned about losing):
John 11:47-48 ~ Then the leading priests and Pharisees called the high council together. “What are we going to do?” they asked each other. “This man certainly performs many miraculous signs. If we allow him to go on like this, soon everyone will believe in him. Then the Roman army will come and destroy both our Temple and our nation.”
Discuss.................
The greek word used is #g142, which is a taking away, such as captive or "rapture".
Strong's Concordance with Hebrew and Greek Lexicon
142. airo a primary root;
to lift up; by implication, to take up or away; figuratively, to raise (the voice), keep in suspense (the mind), specially, to sail away (i.e. weigh anchor); by Hebraism (compare 5375) to expiate sin:--away with, bear (up), carry, lift up, loose, make to doubt, put away, remove, take (away, up).
==================================
Matthew 21:43
Therefore I am saying to ye, that the Kingdom of the God shall be being taken away<142> from Ye, and it shall be being given to a Nation doing the Fruits of it.
This became fulfilled in 70ad.........
John 11:48
"If ever we may be letting Him thus, all shall be believing into Him, and shall be coming the Romans<4514> and they shall be taking away<142> of Us, and the Place and the Nation."
G142 is used in the 70ad Jerusalem/Temple discourse:
Matthew 24 Mount of Olives and Titus's 10th Legion on Mt Olives 70ad
Mat 24:39
17 “Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house.
18 “And let him who is in the field not go back to take his clothes.
39 “and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
Mar 13:
15“Let him who is on the housetop not go down into the house, nor enter to take anything out of his house.
16 “And let him who is in the field not go back to take his clothes.
Luk 17:31
“In that day, he who is on the housetop, and his goods are in the house, let him not come down to take them away.
And likewise the one who is in the field, let him not turn back.
https://www.preteristarchive.com/JewishWars/timeline_military.html
"..probably the greatest single slaughter in ancient history."
ROMAN SIEGE AND SACK OF JERUSALEM
The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
The day on which Titus encompassed Jerusalem, was the feast of the Passover.
and it is deserving of the very particular attention of the reader, that this was the anniversary of that memorable period in which the Jews crucified their Messiah........!
Nevertheless, the city was at this time crowded with Jewish strangers, and foreigners from all parts, so that the whole nation may be considered as having been shut up in one prison, preparatory to the execution of the Divine vengeance ;
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