Why are most Christians politically right wing?

[timothyu]

it is time to find someone you can vote FOR for positive reasons even if that person is not of the two oligarchic parties.

Exactly, the country need three official parties even if it means thirds instead of halves across the nation. That way two will have to align to have power and if the newest party just happened to actually be of non greedy people, there is a good chance social justice and reforms could be gained.

 

[Romans 8]

The Believers Share Their Possessions (Acts 4:31-35)

31) After they prayed, the place where they were meeting was shaken. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke the word of God boldly.
32) All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had.
33) With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all
34) that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales
35) and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need.

- they were all filled with the Holy Spirit

- spoke the word of God boldly

- all the believers were one in heart and mind

- no one claimed that any of their possessions was their own

- they shared everything they had

- God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all that there were no needy persons among them

- it (money) was distributed to anyone who had need
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Perhaps the Holy Spirit and the early Christian "Believers" were unaware that they were participating in a "Luciferian system for controlling the people which always ends in mass murder!"

Ohhhh! So because the apostles shared their food etc, WE are supposed to be Communists?! That makes perfect sense

 

[RDKirk]

Ever watch Leave it to Beaver? Twin beds in every room and a well stocked bar.

Honestly, seriously, when I was a kid I thought white married couples did sleep in separate beds. They all did on television. There were no black couples on television to see that it was just a television thing, but I'd been in enough black homes to verify that black married couples slept in one large bed.

Except the Ricardos. But Ricky was Cuban, which I could clearly see was different.

 

[timothyu]

The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.
- John Kenneth Galbraith

Any question why Jesus said to ignore the whole system and leave them to their folly, having the only reward they will ever get.

 

[timothyu]

I haven't heard of any country forming or trying to become a Christian Theocracy.

Even the country Vatican is divided.

 

[timothyu]

Where has socialism ever been successfully implemented on a large scale?

Again the threat to capitalism is not socialism, That is a cover. The threat is any kind of social safety net or justice where they may not be able to profit from. Heaven forbid anyone helped someone for free.

 

[Carl Emerson]

The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.
- John Kenneth Galbraith

John Kenneth Galbraith Quotes

Yes, this post was just 'tongue in cheek' for smile value..

 

[timothyu]

Sweden, Norway, Denmark are social democracies. They have a highly regulated form of capitalism that serves the common good.

Then why do I have to wait still another year for the new ABBA album

 

[Sentinel Saint]

Amen

It's not about power at all. It's about the people. Socialism is for the people, not for the government.

Yes, that's what the "benevolent" government tells you, but do you really think that they're going to give up their power? They just pay you lip service and continue to exploit the citizens for their own gain. Which socialistic policies are for the people, might I ask?

 

[Sentinel Saint]

Then why do I have to wait still another year for the new ABBA album

Good question, they need get that out ASAP!

 

[iluvatar5150]

They chose the wrong side about opposing gay rights, too. This has already seriously damaged them as a social movement. I don't see any new rabbits they can pull out of their hat, they've sort of played all the moral panic cards, so I expect they will simply double down on abortion. We are sort of seeing that, especially with the 2019 film Upnlanned, a masterpiece of propaganda that would make any Soviet commisar proud.



Evangelical fundamentalists were never that respectable as a moral authority before the double hitter of Billy Graham and Roe vs. Wade, they actually hit it off big-time with abortion, and allying with Catholics. It was a masterful strategy, actually, because to many people in the public at large, their basic worldview was repugnant.

I'm sure you've seen the early 1960's film, Inherit the Wind? Fundamentalist religion simply wasn't all that respectable in the 20th century, people understood implicitly it could be crass and mean-spirited, and went against the sense of social trust most Americans believed in. It took people like Billy Graham with his charisma and sincerity, and moral issues like abortion, to create an aura of serious moral deliberation and deep spirituality. They actually were somewhat succesful in turning things around, for a while, until they chose poorly again.

I read a ?New Yorker? article a while ago that also took the phenomenon back to the Scopes trial, where evangelicals had the opportunity to attack the horrors of the eugenics movement but passed on that in favor of going after evolution. The author argued that, in doing so, they abdicated the moral high ground and solidified public opinion of them being anti-science cranks.

It surprises me that a startling number of people here are advocating for socialism - a system of government that has never succeeded and only led to ruin for the citizens. People are sadly quick to forget history these days. Socialism is a wolf in sheep's clothing and people tend to be easily fooled by politicians and the media who cleverly market this form of governance as being charitable. It's like when they label an evil such as abortion as "women's rights". The fluffy language disguises the true nature of said thing in order to gain the trust of the population and push the agenda.

Judging by your post count, it seems you’re new around here. FYI: most of us have been through this argument a number of times. Your description of socialism is inaccurate and overly simplistic. Many nations have systems far more “socialist” than anything proposed by the current batch of Democrats, yet have thriving economies and healthy populations.

 

[RDKirk]

Ohhhh! So because the apostles shared their food etc, WE are supposed to be Communists?! That makes perfect sense

We share our resources in the military, too. That doesn't make us communists.

This may be one of the most astounding successes of Satan in hamstringing Christians in America: That a Christian can read clear instruction to the Body of Christ right out of the bible and run away screaming "Communists!"

Satan pulled a stunning fast one that time.

 

[Sentinel Saint]

Again the threat to capitalism is not socialism, That is a cover. The threat is any kind of social safety net or justice where they may not be able to profit from. Heaven forbid anyone helped someone for free.

I tend to prefer communities take this responsibility on instead of the government. Private charity goes a long way in helping out those in need and is very much in line with Biblical teaching. The problem I have is giving a corrupt government more control, because we all know that government is so effective at implementing programs! *Curses the inefficiencies of the DMV*

 

[Sentinel Saint]

Judging by your post count, it seems you’re new around here. FYI: most of us have been through this argument a number of times. Your description of socialism is inaccurate and overly simplistic. Many nations have systems far more “socialist” than anything proposed by the current batch of Democrats, yet have thriving economies and healthy populations.

Do you mind naming a few so I can take a look? And also where are the inaccuracies? I would like to have the opportunity to have my mind changed or offer a counter argument if necessary.

 

[timothyu]

I wonder what would happen if higher education became easily accessible to all without having to sell grandma for the cash her organs might get. Would the blue bloods who maintain the same aristocracy as before the Revolution object ?

 

[Tutorman]

Yes, that's what the "benevolent" government tells you, but do you really think that they're going to give up their power? They just pay you lip service and continue to exploit the citizens for their own gain. Which socialistic policies are for the people, might I ask?

And you quoted me why?

 

[timothyu]

Private charity goes a long way in helping out those in need and is very much in line with Biblical teaching.

True and the coffers of the rich are not threatened unless by choice or a healthy tax advantage. But a large scale change in education and health care would see a lot of parasites moaning their lifestyle has suffered while the masses gain.

 

[jgarden]

Perhaps people willingly sharing is not the same as being forced to. Perhaps the system worked because they all had the same beliefs; beliefs I don't think secular socialism is willing to concede to.

1) Nobody was forcing these people to be "Believers" or to share their possessions - in fact the vast majority of early Christians were among the poor and destitute, and many faced persecution and martyrdom for their faith, under a succession of Roman emperors!

2) Much of America's legal system is based on the Judeo-Christian tradition - there isn't a separate legal system for non-Believers.

3) Given that the early "Believers" decided to share their possessions while under the influence of the Holy Spirit, strongly suggests that God favored a communal societies based on equality/sharing - rather than those characterized by extreme inequality of "haves and have-nots!"

 

[Romans 8]

We share our resources in the military, too. That doesn't make us communists.

This may be one of the most astounding successes of Satan in hamstringing Christians in America: That a Christian can read clear instruction to the Body of Christ right out of the bible and run away screaming "Communists!"

Satan pulled a stunning fast one that time.

I don't think that observing how the apostles traveled with Jesus, and then attempting to apply that by the avenue of Communism or the military translates. What next, should we take the apostles' fashion advice and wear sandals and a tunic?

 

[FireDragon76]

.. What next, should we take the apostles' fashion advice and wear sandals and a tunic?

The hippy in me says "yes".