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Partial Preterist post everywhere trying to convince all that it is all about the destruction of Jerusalem. What they rarely say unless pressed, is that their whole theory kind of hinges on the book of Revelation not being penned in 96 AD as 99.9% of Scholars believe but is from an earlier date of 66 AD. So therefore it could be all about the future destruction of Jerusalem.
What they simple ignore is that this book is written to seven Gentile Churches in Asia Minor about what was going to happen to them and their churches their cities from that date through the years.
Preterists always talk about Internal Evidence etc etc. SO lets look at it.
9: I John, who also am your brother,[red] and companion in tribulation, [/red]and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos,
Companion in Tribulation well we know that John suffered in the Second Pagan persecution not the First so that puts this statement at the earliest in 81 AD. The Roman Historian Dio Cassius wrote that Domitian exiled people to Islands. He mentions it multiple times in his section on Domitian he also confirms that at his death exiles were released. Domitian is said to have banished another believer Flavia Domitilla who was banished in AD 95 to the island of Pandeteria. She was also released by Nerva at the same as John. Machining exactly what has been stated by Early Apostolic Fathers as to when and where Revelation was written.
14]"And to the angel of the church in La-odice'a write: `The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God's creation.[15]"`I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were cold or hot![16] So, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew you out of my mouth.[17] For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing; not knowing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked.
Laodicea was the Capital of the Area a Banking Center, Clothing Industry, Eye Medicine and one of the First Churches but all was destroyed by an massive Earthquake in about 62 AD. It also destroyed the aquifer which brought water to the city from a cold underground section the Lycus river. The Earthquake rerouted this underground aquifer so they chose to take the water from a hot spring in the high country down a five mile aquifer which meant the water was Luke Warm by the time it reached the city. Thus Laodicea had lukewarm water. This aquifer took over 15 years to complete. So Laodicea was not Luke warm till at least 75- 77AD. The area was the wool supplier of the Empire and of dye. Hence Johns reference to them saying "you are lukewarm" " you are poor" "you are blind" "you are naked" What John says is you are poor you are naked and blind. You think you have everything without Salvation you have nothing. This city had nothing in 66 AD it was a pile of ruble not even partially rebuilt yet.
The big one Preterits point to is the measuring of the Temple. Which is absolute nonsense. Ezekiel is told to rise and measure the Temple when there was no Temple. Daniel also says the Temple will be destroyed, he too wrote this when there was no Temple. This particular argument is just plain nonsense. I guess that means Ezekiel and Daniel must have been written after Herod rebuilt the Temple.
Now the preterist always say Daniel 9 is about 70 AD on this point I agree with them. But this does not back their date for revelation in fact it shows the Latter date must be true.
here is Revelation
[15] The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood.
Above the Devil tries to Destroy Christianity by wiping it out at the Source Jerusalem he sends a Flood out after the Woman IE the True Church.
Here is Daniel 9 on how Jerusalem's end will come
26] And after the sixty-two weeks, an anointed one shall be cut off, and shall have nothing; and the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. Its end shall come with a flood, and to the end there shall be war; desolations are decreed.
As we can see Jerusalem's end comes with a Flood this is a direct reference in Revelation to the Destruction of Jerusalem in Daniel. Now what we need to pay attention to is what tense John is Speaking in. IT IS ALL PAST TENSE.
The Saints Loved not their life unto death .........The Serpent Poured out not will pour out ...............
[16] But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river which the dragon had poured from his mouth.
Now The Dragon Brings the Fourth kingdom down on WHO.........
[17] Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. And he stood on the sand of the sea.
So the Dragon Uses the Fourth Kingdom to Persecute Christians. All of the Persecution the deadly wound the Two Horned Lamb all happen after Jerusalem is Destroyed and is all part of the Dragons persecution of Christians it has absolutely nothing to do with Jerusalem Judea or The Jews.
Now I am going to stop here because if I keep going this post will be so long no one will read it.
Should anyone require further proof I will be happy to continue.
Partial Preterist post everywhere trying to convince all that it is all about the destruction of Jerusalem. What they rarely say unless pressed, is that their whole theory kind of hinges on the book of Revelation not being penned in 96 AD as 99.9% of Scholars believe but is from an earlier date of 66 AD. So therefore it could be all about the future destruction of Jerusalem.
What they simple ignore is that this book is written to seven Gentile Churches in Asia Minor about what was going to happen to them and their churches their cities from that date through the years.
Preterists always talk about Internal Evidence etc etc. SO lets look at it.
9: I John, who also am your brother,[red] and companion in tribulation, [/red]and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos,
Companion in Tribulation well we know that John suffered in the Second Pagan persecution not the First so that puts this statement at the earliest in 81 AD. The Roman Historian Dio Cassius wrote that Domitian exiled people to Islands. He mentions it multiple times in his section on Domitian he also confirms that at his death exiles were released. Domitian is said to have banished another believer Flavia Domitilla who was banished in AD 95 to the island of Pandeteria. She was also released by Nerva at the same as John. Machining exactly what has been stated by Early Apostolic Fathers as to when and where Revelation was written.
14]"And to the angel of the church in La-odice'a write: `The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God's creation.[15]"`I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were cold or hot![16] So, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew you out of my mouth.[17] For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing; not knowing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked.
Laodicea was the Capital of the Area a Banking Center, Clothing Industry, Eye Medicine and one of the First Churches but all was destroyed by an massive Earthquake in about 62 AD. It also destroyed the aquifer which brought water to the city from a cold underground section the Lycus river. The Earthquake rerouted this underground aquifer so they chose to take the water from a hot spring in the high country down a five mile aquifer which meant the water was Luke Warm by the time it reached the city. Thus Laodicea had lukewarm water. This aquifer took over 15 years to complete. So Laodicea was not Luke warm till at least 75- 77AD. The area was the wool supplier of the Empire and of dye. Hence Johns reference to them saying "you are lukewarm" " you are poor" "you are blind" "you are naked" What John says is you are poor you are naked and blind. You think you have everything without Salvation you have nothing. This city had nothing in 66 AD it was a pile of ruble not even partially rebuilt yet.
The big one Preterits point to is the measuring of the Temple. Which is absolute nonsense. Ezekiel is told to rise and measure the Temple when there was no Temple. Daniel also says the Temple will be destroyed, he too wrote this when there was no Temple. This particular argument is just plain nonsense. I guess that means Ezekiel and Daniel must have been written after Herod rebuilt the Temple.
Now the preterist always say Daniel 9 is about 70 AD on this point I agree with them. But this does not back their date for revelation in fact it shows the Latter date must be true.
here is Revelation
[15] The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood.
Above the Devil tries to Destroy Christianity by wiping it out at the Source Jerusalem he sends a Flood out after the Woman IE the True Church.
Here is Daniel 9 on how Jerusalem's end will come
26] And after the sixty-two weeks, an anointed one shall be cut off, and shall have nothing; and the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. Its end shall come with a flood, and to the end there shall be war; desolations are decreed.
As we can see Jerusalem's end comes with a Flood this is a direct reference in Revelation to the Destruction of Jerusalem in Daniel. Now what we need to pay attention to is what tense John is Speaking in. IT IS ALL PAST TENSE.
The Saints Loved not their life unto death .........The Serpent Poured out not will pour out ...............
[16] But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river which the dragon had poured from his mouth.
Now The Dragon Brings the Fourth kingdom down on WHO.........
[17] Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. And he stood on the sand of the sea.
So the Dragon Uses the Fourth Kingdom to Persecute Christians. All of the Persecution the deadly wound the Two Horned Lamb all happen after Jerusalem is Destroyed and is all part of the Dragons persecution of Christians it has absolutely nothing to do with Jerusalem Judea or The Jews.
Now I am going to stop here because if I keep going this post will be so long no one will read it.
Should anyone require further proof I will be happy to continue.
