What commandments is Jesus talking about?

[ace of hearts]

Again, my answer is in #103.

I disagree here. Thanks anyway.

 

[ace of hearts]

I'd recommend you all try to keep the commandment in spite of your attempts to prove to yourself you need not worry about them.

For what reason?

 

[klutedavid]

Actually you can't, not until we clear something up...details already posted.

But I replied to your question.

 

[klutedavid]

For what reason?

So you can hang onto the land that Israel sits on!

You need to read the scripture.

 

[ace of hearts]

I didn't claim he meant anything...you worked that in there somehow.

I simply asked what I asked...I needed to assume nothing in order to ask it.

Excuse me, but I thought the thread was about the commandments of Jesus. If what you said aren't the commandments of Jesus, why did you make such a statement? To argue?

 

[Kenny'sID]

But I replied to your question.

You aren't reading all the posts here, there was another as I already alluded to.

 

[1stcenturylady]

I disagree here. Thanks anyway.

So, to confirm, you believe the struggle in Romans 7 is Paul as a Christian, and not someone before Christ and still under the law (like it says).

 

[ace of hearts]

I'll put it this way, before I go back and try to find it, do you generally answer all questions?

See, if they aren't answered right off it causes problems, they get lost in the shuffle, people forget who asked what and the debate becomes rather one sided for those who try to answer all questions.

I do even after some one proves beyond a doubt they have bad motives for posting. I love the truth. There are exceptions to this like LGW's spasm posts. I got them memorized.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Excuse me, but I thought the thread was about the commandments of Jesus. If what you said aren't the commandments of Jesus, why did you make such a statement? To argue?

OK, I see how it's going to be. I gave you every chance in spite of your time wasting, contrary actions. Go ahead and sin if that's what you choose to do.

 

[ace of hearts]

If you read Romans 2 carefully all you will find is the condemnation of the Jews. The Jews were judging others and Paul claimed that the Gentiles blasphemed God, because of how the Jews behaved.

I did not see how chapter two of Romans could possibly support your claim.

I don't see how anything in Romans could come close to supporting any of his claims.

 

[ace of hearts]

Your saying that we are under the law?

I know he is.

 

[klutedavid]

So, to confirm, you believe the struggle in Romans 7 is Paul as a Christian, and not someone before Christ and still under the law (like it says).

Paul is talking to the Jews in Rome who were under the law, Paul has in effect been talking to the Jews since chapter two.

I agree with your assertion.

 

[Tone]

OK, I see how it's going to be. I gave you every chance in spite of your time wasting, contrary actions. Go ahead and sin if that's what you choose to do.

I feel you, I got a couple on ignore.

 

[klutedavid]

OK, I see how it's going to be. I gave you every chance in spite of your time wasting, contrary actions. Go ahead and sin if that's what you choose to do.

Real sin is rejecting Christ.

 

[1stcenturylady]

Paul is talking to the Jews in Rome who were under the law, Paul has in effect been talking to the Jews since chapter two.

I agree with your assertion.

It is amazing to me that even though it is written in plain English that chapter 7 is about those under the law, but just because Paul is using a personal present tense (which is a Semitic (Hebrew) writing style, they think it is Paul's state as a Christian, and the context goes right over their heads. Romans 7 and 8 are contrasting chapters - before and after Christ. Law vs. Spirit.

 

[klutedavid]

So, to confirm, you believe the struggle in Romans 7 is Paul as a Christian, and not someone before Christ and still under the law (like it says).

Why do people not understand the text?

Even commentaries are often wrong when it comes to the letter to the Romans.

In this day and age, I am baffled to why people do not understand the text.

 

[Tone]

Nite all!

Good night and Shabbat shalom!

 

[1stcenturylady]

Why do people not understand the text?

Even commentaries are often wrong when it comes to the letter to the Romans.

In this day and age, I am baffled to why people do not understand the text.

LOL I wrote the same thing to you!

 

[1stcenturylady]

Good night and Shabbat shalom!

Good night. (Not out of here yet - LOL)

 

[klutedavid]

It is amazing to me that even though it is written in plain English that chapter 7 is about those under the law, but just because Paul is using a personal present tense (which is a Semitic (Hebrew) writing style, they think it is Paul's state as a Christian, and the context goes right over their heads. Romans 7 and 8 are contrasting chapters - before and after Christ. Law vs. Spirit.

Chapters nine and ten give the game away completely. Paul explains why Israel failed and he had been doing that since chapter two.

Why folk walk off on a tangent in chapter seven is bewildering.