WHERE DOES IT SAY GOD'S SABBATH IS ABOLSIHED AND WE ARE COMMANDED TO KEEP SUNDAY AS A HOLY DAY?

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And your point here is???


Indeed. We are no longer in the OLD COVENANT now and do not have to observe the ANNUAL FEAST DAYS. So what does this have to do with God's 4th commandment that is not ANNUAL but WEEKLY?
Then we also don't have to observe the weekly sabbath in the list of requirements of Lev 23. Col 2:16-17. Besides that there's no division of the law according to James and Paul.
 
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Thankyou. Now look at what you have posted here. This is only supporting what I have already posted through the scriptures and shows that the Luna Calander is to provide the timing of the seasons for the commencment of the ANNUAL FEAST DAYS. It has nothing to do with the starting of God's 4th command weekly SEVENTH DAY Sabbath outside of the ANNUAL FEAST DAYS. Honestly brother I am not sure why you have not been able to see this from the start.



The post you quoted does not support what you are saying.
Of course it doesn't. That's what is being responded to. It's not being endorsed.
 
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As I always say I am a Gentile and the law is meaningless to me. I am not under the law.

I don't care whether there are thirteen or more commandments in the law. I am still not under those commandments.

I follow the law of Christ, which is what He commanded His followers.
I would not say the law or the OT is meaningless to me, I just know that I am not, and nor should any other true Christian, be "under it" in any way shape or form, who is born again, ect, (under the NC ) anymore...

We are to discern the Spirit of it (the Law) and follow it/Him (The Spirit of or behind it) and not the letter though, for the letter cannot adequately express or contain it/Him or The Spirit (of it, the law, behind it) not even by a long shot...

I believe there is still much wisdom to be found and discovered in the OT still, and by studying the ways of the OC, ect...

Recall when Jesus spoke to His disciples on the road after he had risen, and there hearts were burning because Jesus was "telling them things pertaining to Himself in the OT, or the OC, or maybe even as orchestrator of it, ect... Whatever it was it almost quite literally lit a fire within them, left them with a burning within their hearts...

God Bless!
 
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Nope not at all. As posted earlier, According to the Hebrew calendars and traditional Christian calendars and the bible, Sunday has always been the first day of the week according to God's WORD and the SEVENTH DAY Sabbath of God's 4th commandment being Saturday (Friday sunset to Saturday sunset God's time -GENESIS 1) *GENESIS 2:1-3; EXODUS 20:8-11.

There is no Luna calander requirement for God's SEVENTH DAY weekly Sabbath as it is every seventh day of the week. The Luna calander was a requirement for the timing of the ANNUAL FEAST days of LEVITICUS 23. This has already been demonstrated through the scriptures in posts # 789 and post # 790 linked.
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To tell you the truth, I really did not know a whole about the lunar calendar or Old Jewish or Hebrew calendar, vs solar calendar, and the like, ect, I just remember learning sometime back that they were not the same or synchronous, ect, days and weeks not the same, ect... And I knew I learned it right...

And it's "a detail", a technicality... but they are the ones who wish to be bound by those things, so, so be it, I guess...

So, anyway, I'm finding some of this very informative...

God Bless!
 
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I never said God's people did not use a Luna calander to begin with but stated they did in the very first post I provided with God's WORD showing how they used and what they used the Luna calander for.

As posted earlier; The luna calander according to God's WORD in GENESIS 1:14-19 shows that the luna calander was to show times and seasons. It was used to time the ANNUAL FEAST DAYS. (You even provided scriptures showing that the NEW MOONS were in connection to the ANNUAL FEAST DAYS earlier in the thread). As posted earlier this has nothing to do with a weekly cycle which is a continual 7 day cycle that occours every seven days through out the year.

What is in question is your false claim that every month (NEW MOON) the days of the week changes when a weekly cycle is contineous and does not effect the numbering of the days of the week within a yearly cycle. You have been asked to provide scripture and you have provided none.
You're using the Gregorian calendar to base your statement about the week. The lunar calendar is different. The new moon is the first day of the month and always the first day of the week.
 
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Really brother. Please provide the scripture?

The luna calander according to God's WORD in GENESIS 1:14-19 shows that the luna calander was to show times and seasons. It was used to time the YEARLY ANNUAL FEAST DAYS. As posted earlier this has nothing to do with a weekly cycle which is a continual 7 day cycle that occours every seven days through out the year.

What is in question is your false claim that every month (NEW MOON) the days of the week changes when a weekly cycle is contineous and does not effect the numbering of the days of the week within a yearly cycle. You have been asked to provide scripture and like your friend you have provided none.

Only God's WORD is true brother and we should believe and follow it *ROMANS 3:4.

May God help you as you seek him through his Word.
Yes and the standard arguement about Sunday is the changing of times.
 
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You mean like this..

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New moon
Some modern sects who are Sabbath keepers have suggested a Sabbath based on the New Moon citing Psalm 104:19 and Genesis 1:14 as a key prooftexts. Observers recognize the 1st, 8th, 15th, 22nd, and 29th days of the month of the Hebrew Calendar as Sabbath days which should be observed.[13] They reject the 7 day week as non-biblical. The Lunar Sabbath theory is rejected by most Sabbatarian groups and Judaism as false and misleading.
The reality is it's inconvenient.
 
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REVELATION 12:17, And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

REVELATION 19:1 [10], And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said to me, See you do it not: I am your fellow servant, and of your brothers that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
Do you want to explain your emphasis?
 
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Of course, it does not have a Saturday, either. "Saturn." mmmmm, pagan
Yes, another pagan name for the seventh day.

That Pope Gregory can keep his calendar I'm using the lunar calendar from now on.
 
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I have never said that God's people did not use a Luna calander. In the very first post that was provided as shown through the scriptures it was used to determine the timing of the YEARLY ANNUAL FEAST days. It has no effect on a seven day weekly cycle and does not restart the weekly cycle every time there is a NEW MOON as some have been claiming here.
Then present evidence both calendars have the same week days such as the first day of the week is always the same day in both calendars. I don't think you can.
 
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Then present evidence both calendars have the same week days such as the first day of the week is always the same day in both calendars. I don't think you can.
And no one realizes just how ridiculous all "this" is either, do they...?

What would happen either way, and would "any of it" ever be right in any way, either way...?

As another poster posted in in another post in this thread awhile back, and I got a pretty good laugh out of it (already, or back then), he said "This is "INSANITY" in all caps, and I think i agree, sometimes it frustrates me (greatly, sometimes) even to even have to engage or participate in things or discussions like this sometimes...

Great way to operate under the New Covenant guys, really... (them, not you guys)

God Bless!
 
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Then present evidence both calendars have the same week days such as the first day of the week is always the same day in both calendars. I don't think you can.
What if they argued they were...? since their not here right now, or at the moment...?

God Bless!
 
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I just found this by searching whether they were synchronous or not...

Being a lunar calendar, it's around 11 days shorter than the Gregorian calendar. It has 12 months, each beginning with a new lunar cycle. ... As they're based on the lunar cycle, months have either 29 or 30 days, and their starting day can vary according to the method used to mark the new month. (Dec 23, 2015)...

Doesn't sound like they are or could be the same, does it...?

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Yes and the standard arguement about Sunday is the changing of times.

Please provide the scripture?

The luna calander according to God's WORD in GENESIS 1:14-19 shows that the luna calander was to show times and seasons. It was used to time the YEARLY ANNUAL FEAST DAYS. As posted earlier this has nothing to do with a weekly cycle which is a continual 7 day cycle that occours every seven days through out the year.

What is in question is your false claim that every month (NEW MOON) the days of the week changes when a weekly cycle is contineous and does not effect the numbering of the days of the week within a yearly cycle. You have been asked to provide scripture and like your friend you have provided none.

Only God's WORD is true brother and we should believe and follow it *ROMANS 3:4.

You have no scripture do you.
 
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The reality is it's inconvenient.

You mean like this..

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New moon
Some modern sects who are Sabbath keepers have suggested a Sabbath based on the New Moon citing Psalm 104:19 and Genesis 1:14 as a key prooftexts. Observers recognize the 1st, 8th, 15th, 22nd, and 29th days of the month of the Hebrew Calendar as Sabbath days which should be observed.[13] They reject the 7 day week as non-biblical. The Lunar Sabbath theory is rejected by most Sabbatarian groups and Judaism as false and misleading.
 
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safswan said: The start of the month does not affect the weekly cycle.

It most certainly does.

Nice reply showing that tha Luna calander changes the days of the weekly cycle. You have no scripture have you.
 
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