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Featured WHERE DOES IT SAY GOD'S SABBATH IS ABOLSIHED AND WE ARE COMMANDED TO KEEP SUNDAY AS A HOLY DAY?

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  1. LoveGodsWord

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    Please do not make arguments no one is arging about. Who said the different calanders have the same days names? If no one has said any such thing why do you pretend that they have?
    Now you were asked a question to your claims. You and your friends claim that the Luna calander changed the weekly days and week cycle. Now prove it. Where are the scriptures? If you have no scripture then why pretend that what you are claiming is true? Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it. Now lets be honest. You have no scripture for your claims now do you. If you did you would have posted it already.
     
  2. Neogaia777

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    Why do certain Holidays, some associated with the lunar calendar, fall on different days of the week on our calendar then...?

    The calendars and not just months, but the weeks and days of the week are different, are they not, or (are they) not...?

    There not synchronous are they...? There not the same, but are the days and days of the week the same...?

    I'd just like to say that I don't care which way this goes, I think I'ts all very, very wrong and sin anyway, either way...

    God Bless!
     
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  3. LoveGodsWord

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    It only is a frustration for some that do not have God's WORD to support their views. You do not have any scripture do you brother that answers any of the OP questions here and no scriptures to show that God's 4th commandment has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day do you.
     
  4. Neogaia777

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    My point is that we have gone down this stupid rabbit trail away from the OP...? But I find the OP equally pointless, so... In fact, I don't even know why I'm posting here right now, or still...?

    God Bless!
     
  5. LoveGodsWord

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    Because of the yearly cycle. This does not effect the weekly cycle. This is what has been shared here. For example one year the 25th of December may be on a Sunday. The following year December 25th will be on a Monday. Now the day that December 25th falls on is based on the yearly cycle not the weekly. The week remains the same as it is a continual cycle. Although December 25th in the following year falls on Monday instead of Sunday. So the week remains the same but the day of celebration has moved one day because of the yearly cycle (not the weekly). Do you understand now brother? I do not mind posting on the Luna and yearly cycles if people are trying to use it as an argument against the Sabbath. It is a false argument that does not effect the days in the week which are a contineous cycle.
     
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    There is no such thing as taking a Sabbath any day any day of the week. God's WORD says the God's 4th Commandment of the 10 Commandments that give us the knowledge of what SIN is when broken is the SEVENTH DAY of the week *GENESIS 2:1-3; EXODUS 20:9-11.

    You are confused brother the Luna calander does not effect a seven day weekly cycle and does not change the days of the week every time there is a NEW MOON. If you believe this is the case why do you go to Church on Sunday?

    God bless
     
  7. LoveGodsWord

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    Not really brother Luke 24:44 only supports what is being shared with you. Read the scriptures you are quoting from. Your not reading them again are you.

    As posted earlier the first part of the scripture you quote testifies against you. Think not that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to satisfy." (Matthew 5:17).

    [17], Think not that I am come to destroy the <1> law, or <2> the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to <3> fulfill.

    NOTE: JESUS did not come to destroy or stop καταλύω; kataluō the law or the prophets (this is referring to torah both the 10 commandments and the Mosaic book of the covenant prophets and psalms).

    The GREEK word fulfill used πληρόω; plēroō here has many applications depending on the context of use. The many meanings of fulfil πληρόω; plēroō are From G4134; to make replete, that is, (literally) to cram (a net), level up (a hollow), or (figuratively) to furnish (or imbue, diffuse, influence), satisfy, execute (an office), finish (a period or task), verify (or coincide with a prediction), etc.: - accomplish, X after, (be) complete, end, expire, fill (up), fulfil, (be, make) full (come), fully preach, perfect, supply.

    In the context above we are referring to the law, prophets and Psalms. The CONTEXT is that JESUS has not come to destroy or bring to an END to the law, prophets and psalms. So the GREEK word use here for fulfill based on the rules of CONTEXT cannot mean bring to an end or expire. The meaning here then considering the GREEK word and primary context whics not to destroy being used then is to SATISFY, to EXECUTE, ACCOMPLISH, PERFECT or FULFILL the requirements of the LAW and the PROPHETS and PSALMS which were spoken of JESUS. This is re-emphasized in v18

    [18], For truly I say to you, Till heaven and earth pass, one stroke or one pronunciation mark shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

    NOTE: The topic is still the same here in v18 and the CONTEXT therefore is still the LAW and the prophets and Psalms. This passage is referring to HEAVEN and EARTH passing away. This does not take place until after the SECOND COMING. As HEAVEN and EARTH have not passed away and as yet there has been no SECOND COMING it should be very clear that all things concerning CHRIST and God's plan of salvation for mankind written in the law and the prophets and Psalms have NOT YET BEEN FULFILLED.

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    CONCLUSION The GREEK meaning of fulfill in v17 πληρόω; plēroō defines it's meaning from the CONTEXT of application which is JESUS saying he has not come to destroy or bring to an end the law and the prophets (torah) the GREEK application for fulfill then cannot mean bring to an end as this is not the meaning of the context used before by JESUS saying he has not come to bring to an end (destroy). The context meaning of fulfill in v17 πληρόω; plēroō therefore means to SATISFY, to EXECUTE, ACCOMPLISH, PERFECT or FULFILL the requirements of the LAW and the PROPHETS and PSALMS which were spoken of JESUS.
    Not all thing have been fulfilled concerning JESUS in the law and the prophets and Psalms as Heaven and Earth have not passed away and there has not been a second coming to complete God's plan of salvation for mankind so not all things have been fulfilled. What has been fulfilled is Christs work on earth but not in HEAVEN.
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    With these thoughts in mind brother let's move through the scriptures of MATTHEW 5:17-29 slowly as they further show that none of God's Commandments have been abolished.

    MATTHEW 5:17-29
    [17], Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.
    [18], For truly I say to you, Till heaven and earth pass, one stroke or one pronunciation mark shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
    [19], Whoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
    [20], For I say to you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

    [21], You have heard that it was said of them of old time, You shall not kill; and whoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
    [22], But I say to you, That whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whoever shall say, You fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
    [23], Therefore if you bring your gift to the altar, and there remember that your brother has ought against you;
    [24], Leave there your gift before the altar, and go your way; first be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift.
    [25], Agree with your adversary quickly, whiles you are in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver you to the judge, and the judge deliver you to the officer, and you be cast into prison.
    [26], Truly I say to you, You shall by no means come out there, till you have paid the uttermost farthing.
    [27], You have heard that it was said by them of old time, You shall not commit adultery:
    [28], But I say to you, That whoever looks on a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in his heart.
    [29], And if your right eye offend you, pluck it out, and cast it from you: for it is profitable for you that one of your members should perish, and not that your whole body should be cast into hell.

    [31], It has been said, Whoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorce:
    [32], But I say to you, That whoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causes her to commit adultery: and whoever shall marry her that is divorced commits adultery.

    Yep Jesus is certainly referencing the 10 Commandment applying them to our very thoughts and feelings.

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    NOTE: After stating that none of God's LAW (10 Commandments) have been abolished v17-19, Jesus then goes on to say; v20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

    Jesus then goes on and amplifies the application of God's LAW to the heart (thoughts and feelings) which is the very root of sin saying that if we lust after women we are committing Adultery and being angry with your brother as murder from the 10 commandments as examples in v17-27.Jesus starts out by saying;

    Jesus finishes by saying in v48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

    NOTE: The application here in v19-32 changes to specifically focus now on God's 10 commandments where JESUS is saying whoever breaks any one of God's 10 Commandmetns shall be called the least in the KINGDOM of HEAVEN; that is by those already there. The least in the KINGDOM of HEAVEN are those who do not go there. The application of here of the 10 Commandments is shown in v20-22 and v32 where JESUS uses examples of the commandments he is referring to citing "YOU SHALL NOT KILL" and "COMMIT ADULTERY" which are two of God's 10 Commandments found in EXODUS 20:13-14. It is pretty clear here that if JESUS came to put an end to God's 10 Commandments he would not be teaching them and increasing their application to the inside out in verses 19-22 and verses 31-32.

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    CONCLUSION: JESUS did not come to destroy the law or the prophets he came to fulfill them. The are not fulfilled. Christs work on earth is fulfilled but not God's plan of salvation which is also written in the law and the prophets and Psalms. God's eternal law (the 10 Commandments) are not abolished and not to be broken.

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    Now we have had an overall look at MATTHEW 5:17 in context with the rest of the chapter to v32, lets focus our attention to MATTHEW 5:20.

    [20], For I say to you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

    JESUS came to magnify the LAW from the INSIDE OUT quoting MATTHEW 5:17-32 (thoughts and feelings) in fulfillment of *ISAIAH 42:21. This is to show that unless our RIGHTOUESNESS EXCEEDS the RIGHTOUESNESS of the Scribes and Pharisees we can in no way enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN. Jesus is saying the problem runs deeper then outward observance to the 10 Commandments. EVIL begins in the HEART.

    It is BREAKING GOD's 10 COMMANDMENTS from the heart defile a man *MATTHEW 15:18-19. We all have a sinful nature *ROMANS 7. JESUS is saying we can be outwardly perfect and blameless like the Scribes and Pharisee but inwardly like dead mans bones *MATTHEW 23:27-28. JESUS magnified the LAW to the INSIDE OUT. To show us that we are all sinners in need of a Saviour and that sin originates in the HEART (thoughts and feelings). That is why we have the NEW COVENANT promise and need to be BORN AGAIN by Faith in God's WORD for salvation to be free from SIN (breaking any one of God's 10 commandments) *HEBREWS 8:10-12; 1 JOHN 3:3-10.

    If we are not BORN AGAIN into the NEW COVENANT promise and continue in it we will not enter the kingdom of Heaven *1 JOHN 2:3-4; 1 JOHN 2:3-4. ALL those who KNOWINGLY break any one of God's 10 commandments stand guilty before God of sin *JAMES 2:10-11. All those who KNOWINGLY CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into God's KINGDOM *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23.

    God's 4th Commandment is one of the 10 Commandments that give us the KNOWLEDGE of what sin is. There is no such thing as the 9 commandments in God's WORD. The same as there is no scripure that says God's 4th commandment is Abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day.

    RIGHTESOUSNESS comes from LOVE because LOVE is the fulfilling of God's LAW and the very expression of what LOVE is *ROMANS 13:8-10. He that does not LOVE does not KNOW GOD for GOD IS LOVE * 1 JOHN 4:8. All those who are BORN AGAIN have a NEW HEART TO LOVE and FOLLOW GOD *1 JOHN 4:7. This is the NEW COVENANT promise *HEBREWS 8:10-12. Those who are BORN AGAIN do not practice SIN (breaking God's Commandments) *1 JOHN 3:4-9.

    This is why JOHN finishes on this subject by saying; For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous *1 JOHN 5:3 and is why JESUS says IF you LOVE me KEEP my commandments *JOHN 14:15. UNLESS we are BORN AGAIN under the NEW COVENANT to LOVE we will not enter the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *JOHN 3:3-7. We need to be changed from the INSIDE OUT.

    Ignoring God's WORD does not make it disappear.

    Sorry brother God's WORD disagrees with you.
     
  8. LoveGodsWord

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    Not at all brother Luke 24:44 disagrees with your interpretation of it. It is not saying God's ETERNAL LAW (10 Commandments) are abolished brother. God's WORD does not teach lawlessness. It is saying that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

    The Book of the law of MOSES *EXODUS 24:7 is not God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) *EXODUS 20:1-17 that in the NEW COVENANT give us the KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is when broken *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; JAMES 2:10-11.

    Here let's look at some examples through the scriptures showing the meaning of

    LUKE 24:44. [44], And he said to them, These are the words which I spoke to you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

    Why do you think I always say to you if you do not understand what the shadow laws are from the MOSAIC BOOK of the OLD COVENANT how can you know what the NEW COVENANT is that the OLD pointed to?

    What do you think the animal sacrifices pointed to and the earlthy Sanctuary and levitical priesthood pointed to? In regards to LUKE 24:44 you do know the Mosaic shadow laws, the prophets and Psalms all pointed to JESUS right as the coming Messiah e.g. *DANIEL 9:24-27; PSALMS 40; HEBREWS 10; PSALMS 22 etc etc...

    Some (not exhaustive) more OLD testament scriptures of JESUS fulfilled in the new testament

    [1] Messiah would be born of a woman. Genesis 3:15; Matthew 1:20; Galatians 4:4
    [2] Messiah would be born in Bethlehem. Micah 5:2; Matthew 2:1; Luke 2:4-6
    [3] Messiah would be born of a virgin. Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:22-23; Luke 1:26-31
    [4] Messiah would come from the line of Abraham. Genesis 12:3; Genesis 22:18; Matthew 1:1; Romans 9:5
    [5] Messiah would be a descendant of Isaac. Genesis 17:19; Genesis 21:12 Luke 3:34
    [6] Messiah would be a descendant of Jacob. Numbers 24:17 Matthew 1:2
    [7] Messiah would come from the tribe of Judah. Genesis 49:10; Luke 3:33; Hebrews 7:14
    [8] Messiah would be heir to King David's throne. 2 Samuel 7:12-13; Isaiah 9:7 Luke 1:32-33; Romans 1:3
    [9] Messiah's throne will be anointed and eternal. Psalm 45:6-7; Daniel 2:44 Luke 1:33; Hebrews 1:8-12
    [10] Messiah would be called Immanuel. Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:23
    [11] Messiah would spend a season in Egypt. Hosea 11:1; Matthew 2:14-15
    [12] A massacre of children would happen at Messiah's birthplace. Jeremiah 31:15; Matthew 2:16-18
    13 A messenger would prepare the way for Messiah Isaiah 40:3-5 Luke 3:3-6
    [14] Messiah would be rejected by his own people. Psalm 69:8; Isaiah 53:3; John 1:11; John 7:5
    [15] Messiah would be a prophet. Deuteronomy 18:15; Acts 3:20-22
    [16] Messiah would be preceded by Elijah. Malachi 4:5-6; Matthew 11:13-14
    [17] Messiah would be declared the Son of God. Psalm 2:7; Matthew 3:16-17
    [18] Messiah would be called a Nazarene. Isaiah 11:1; Matthew 2:23
    [19] Messiah would bring light to Galilee. Isaiah 9:1-2; Matthew 4:13-16
    [20] Messiah would speak in parables. Psalm 78:2-4; Isaiah 6:9-10; Matthew 13:10-15; 34-35
    [21] Messiah would be sent to heal the brokenhearted. Isaiah 61:1-; Luke 4:18-19
    [22] Messiah would be a priest after the order of Melchizedek. Psalm 110:4; Hebrews 5:5-6
    [23] Messiah would be called King. Psalm 2:6; Zechariah 9:9 Matthew 27:37; Mark 11:7-11
    [24] Messiah would be praised by little children. Psalm 8:2; Matthew 21:16
    [25] Messiah would be betrayed. Psalm 41:9 Zechariah 11:12-13 Luke 22:47-48 Matthew 26:14-16
    [26] Messiah's price money would be used to buy a potter's field. Zechariah 11:12-13; Matthew 27:9-10
    [27] Messiah would be falsely accused. Psalm 35:11; Mark 14:57-58
    [28] Messiah would be silent before his accusers. Isaiah 53:7; Mark 15:4-5
    [29] Messiah would be spat upon and struck. Isaiah 50:6; Matthew 26:67
    [30] Messiah would be hated without cause. Psalm 35:19; Psalm 69:4; John 15:24-25
    [31] Messiah would be crucified with criminals. Isaiah 53:12; Matthew 27:38; Mark 15:27-28
    [32] Messiah would be given vinegar to drink. Psalm 69:21 Matthew 27:34; John 19:28-30
    [33] Messiah's hands and feet would be pierced. Psalm 22:16; Zechariah 12:10; John 20:25-7
    [34] Messiah would be mocked and ridiculed. Psalm 22:7-8; Luke 23:35
    [35] Soldiers would gamble for Messiah's garments. Psalm 22:18 Luke 23:34; Matthew 27:35-36
    [36] Messiah's bones would not be broken. Exodus 12:46; Psalm 34:20; John 19:33-36
    [37] Messiah would be forsaken by God. Psalm 22:1; Matthew 27:46
    [38] Messiah would pray for his enemies. Psalm 109:4 Luke 23:34
    [39] Soldiers would pierce Messiah's side. Zechariah 12:10; John 19:34
    [40] Messiah would be buried with the rich. Isaiah 53:9; Matthew 27:57-60
    [41] Messiah would resurrect from the dead. Psalm 16:10; Psalm 49:15 Matthew 28:2-7; Acts 2:22-32
    [42] Messiah would ascend to heaven. Psalm 24:7-10 Mark 16:19; Luke 24:51
    43 Messiah would be seated at God's right hand. Psalm 68:18; Psalm 110:1 Mark 16:19; Matthew 22:44
    [44] Messiah would be a sacrifice for sin. Isaiah 53:5-12 Romans 5:6-8 (source)

    Brother the above are only some of many more. We haven't even started talking about CIRCUMCISION and some of the other SHADOW laws associated with the annual feast days, new moons and special ceremonial sabbaths that could fall on any day of the week (not God's 4th commandment) from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7.

    Hope this helps to explain your question in relation to Luke 24:44

    Sorry brother God's WORD disagrees with you.
     
  9. Neogaia777

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    The "entire law" was not "abolished" but it was "changed" altered/updated/ungraded (NC)...

    New Covenant means New Covenant, and your making an (big) issue of only one issue or law of the OT, or OC, that were not even supposed to under or bound to as Christians anymore, anyway, gotta stop now...

    God Bless!
     
  10. LoveGodsWord

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    Yep, not now and it never effects the days of the week or the weekly cycle.
     
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    I don't know why your here either, you must secretly like rabbit trails.
     
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  12. LoveGodsWord

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    Not at all. The NEW COVENANT replaces the OLD COVENANT. According to God's WORD in the NEW COVENANT God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) is the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNES *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172.

    God's 4th commandment is one of God's 10 commandments that give us the KNOWLEDGE of what sin is when broken *ROMANS 3:20. According to God's WORD if we break any one of God's 10 Commandments we stand guilty before God of SIN *JAMES 2:10-11.

    According to God's WORD all those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23. OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. If our faith has no fruit it is dead *JAMES 2:18-20; 26 and our tree will be cast down and thrown into the fire *MATTHEW 3:10; 7:19-20; 13:49-50.
     
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    Well that has no truth in it. Where have I ever posted that LEVITICUS 23:2-3 is not about the Sabbath? If I have never made these claims or posted such things why do you pretend that I have?
     
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    Well that statement has no truth in it. I am using only God's WORD that states that our Sunday is the first day of the week and God's 4th Commandment Sabbath of the 10 commandments that give us the KNOWLEDGE of what sin is when broken is the SEVENTH DAY of the WEEK *GENESIS 2:1-3; EXODUS 20:8-11.

    Please provide scripture proof to your claim that the NEW MOON changes the names of the week. You have no scripture do you.
     
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    He says it because it is true..
    Why did you think he said it?
     
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    Nice defense to all the scriptures that disagree with you.

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    As posted earlier, According to the Hebrew calendars and traditional Christian calendars and the bible, Sunday has always been the first day of the week according to God's WORD and the SEVENTH DAY Sabbath of God's 4th commandment being Saturday (Friday sunset to Saturday sunset God's time -GENESIS 1) *GENESIS 2:1-3; EXODUS 20:8-11.

    There is no Luna calander requirement for God's SEVENTH DAY weekly Sabbath as it is every seventh day of the week. The Luna calander was a requirement for the timing of the ANNUAL FEAST days of LEVITICUS 23. This has already been demonstrated through the scriptures in posts # 789 and post # 790 linked.

    No need to say any more.
     
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    The weekly SABBATH is a requirement outside of the ANNUAL FEASTS :) as it is one of God's ETNERNAL LAWS (10 commandments)

    God's 4th commandment.

    EXODUS 20:8-11
    [8], REMEMBER the SABBATH DAY, to KEEP IT HOLY. <Why?> [Because God made it Holy for mankind and commands us to keep it as a Holy day] [9], Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: [10], But the SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH of the LORD thy God [This is a direct reference from God's Word defining what the Sabbath is; The SABBATH = the SEVENTH DAY OF THE WEEK]: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: <WHY> [11], For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and RESTED THE SEVENTH DAY: wherefore the LORD BLESSED THE SABBATH, and MADE IT HOLY.

    According to God's WORD in the NEW COVENANT God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) is the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNES *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172.

    God's 4th commandment is one of God's 10 commandments that give us the KNOWLEDGE of what sin is when broken *ROMANS 3:20. According to God's WORD if we break any one of God's 10 Commandments we stand guilty before God of SIN *JAMES 2:10-11.

    According to God's WORD all those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23. OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. If our faith has no fruit it is dead *JAMES 2:18-20; 26 and our tree will be cast down and thrown into the fire *MATTHEW 3:10; 7:19-20; 13:49-50.

    Sorry brother your only being warned in love. You mix up your Shadow laws with God's 10 Commandments. Besides God's 4th Commandment which is the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH written on stone, there were "SPECIAL" annual ceremonial Sabbath connected to the annual Jewish festivals in the OLD COVENANT written in the MOSAIC BOOK OF THE COVENANT.

    Besides God's 4th Commandment which is the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH written on stone, there were "SPECIAL" annual ceremonial Sabbath connected to the annual Jewish festivals in the OLD COVENANT written in the MOSAIC BOOK OF THE COVENANT.

    These ceremonial Sabbath were not God's 4th Commandment of the 10 Commandments but were connected to annual festivals and could fall on ANY DAY of the week depending on the yearly cycle (please read LEVITICUS 23;24-39).

    These ceremonial "SPECIAL" Sabbath were connected to..

    * Annual festival of The blowing of trumpet (Leviticus 23:24)
    * Annual Day of Atonement (Leviticus 23:32)
    * Annual Feast of tabernacles (Leviticus 23:39)

    These "SPECIAL" Sabbath could fall on any day and were connected directly to these festivals that were prophetic in nature pointing to Jesus and God's plan of Salvation in the NEW COVENANT.

    You have your Shadow laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT mixed up with God's ETERNAL LAW that give us a KNOWLEDGE of sin (Romans 3:20).

    DETAILED SCRIPTURE SUPPORT COLOSSIANS 2 LINKING THE NEW TESTAMENT TO OLD

    Sorry friend God's WORD disagrees with you.
     
  18. LoveGodsWord

    LoveGodsWord Well-Known Member

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    Well that is not true. You have been provided scripture throughout this thread you have provided none. At least your honest about your not providing any. If you have no scripture why not believe the scriptures provided?
     
  19. LoveGodsWord

    LoveGodsWord Well-Known Member

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    Try posting all the post and not part of it. The above is your defence to.....

    There is no wild claims brother and your statement is not true. Scripture was also provided showing PAUL keeping the Sabbath outside of the temple. Also, in these times Gentile believers were allowed in the Temple courts to hear the Word of God (not inside unless they were proselytes)

    It is God's WORD that is supplied as evidence, These are God's WORD'S not mine showing that PAUL kept God's 4th Commandment Sabbath with both JEWS and GENTILES.

    HEBREWS 4:9 [9], So then, it remains for the people of God to keep the Sabbath.

    Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it over the teachings and tradions of men that break the commandments of God *MATTHEW 15:3-9.

    PAUL kept the SABBATH with both JEWS and GENTILES.

    Acts 13
    14, And when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down.
    15, And after the reading of the law and the prophets the rulers of the synagogue sent unto them, saying, You men and brethren, if you have any word of exhortation for the people, say on.

    42, And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath. <Why wait till the next Sabbath?>
    43, Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.
    44, And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.

    Acts 16
    13, And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a riverside, where prayer was accustomed to be made; and we sat down, and spoke unto the women who met there.

    Acts 17
    1, Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where there was a synagogue of the Jews:
    2, And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,

    Acts 18
    4, And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.
    5, And when Silas and Timothy were come from Macedonia, Paul was pressed in the word, and testified to the Jews that Jesus was the Christ.


    Sounds a little different when you add the rest of the post and scriptures back in I guess doesn't it? What was your defense again?

    That's right, ignore the complete post and the scriptures in them that disagree with you, quote a single sentance from the posts provided and ignore the rest of the post and the scriptures in them. Ignoring God's WORD does not make it dissappear brother.

    Hope this helps.
     
  20. LoveGodsWord

    LoveGodsWord Well-Known Member

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    "DITTO" sounds different when you add the rest of the post back in that you leave out.

    ............

    In all respect and love brother this statement of yours above has no truth in it. As shown through the scriptures already and outside sources (wiki). The NEW MOON has nothing to do with God's 4th commandment and the weekly seventh day Sabbath which has nothing to do with a Luna cycle. The luna calander (NEW MOONS etc) according to God's WORD was for signs and seasons *GENESIS 1:14-19. This was important under the OLD COVENANT as the NEW MOONS timed the ANNUAL FEASTS of LEVITICUS 23. This does not effect God's SEVENTH DAY SABBATH of the 4th commandment which is simply once a week, every SEVENTH DAY. Your getting the sabbaths in the ANNUAL FEAST days and NEW MOONS mixed up with God's WEEKLY SEVENTH DAY SABBATH of Gods 4th Commandment which is every SEVENTH DAY of the WEEK. You do not need a luna calander to determine this as it is every SEVENTH DAY of the week. If you know Sunday is the first day of the week and you can count to seven you will be fine. Even if you are not sure check what day the weekly Sabbath is in ISRAEL or look on wiki. It is not hard.

    Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it.
     
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