Kind Advice Only: What do you do when Christians will not discuss Scripture with you?

[Bible Highlighter]

I read the exchange in full. He gave His point of view - one you asked people for, and he did so very kindly. There was nothing wrong or insulting in what he said.

And believe me, I was being exceedingly charitable to a person who openly just treated an autistic person the way you just did.

You need to look at how you take to others before anything will ever change in your interactions with others.

If all you want is people to agree with your ever thought then get off the internet because it's not an echo chamber.

So if you asked a question in friendly Christian, and my response is that it your question was a loaded question, and that your motives could either potentially be bad or good in wanting to share Scripture, you would not take offense? I find that hard to believe. But if would not take offense, then you are merely looking to see only the good in what a person says and you are seeing what you want to see. But if you do seek to look at only the good in what a person says, then what about what I am saying right now?

 

[A Realist]

When someone has a history in this forum of berating people they disagree with while at the same time stating "please do not take offense" or "may God's love shine upon you", etc., I give that individual a wide berth and could care less about discussing anything with them.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Strange as it sounds I think most of us aren't accustomed to discussing scriptures. Many of us personally read the Bible at home or sit quietly at church hearing the Bible. We haven't been coming to the Lord in the practice of fellowship, mutually learning and teaching together. Myself included, people have develop self-centered seeking and understanding. When the moment comes for us to objectively and empirically express ourselves it's difficult to have substantive explanations.

If you were to know how I post, I do not think you would place me in the category of how to not adequately explain the truth on any given topic within the Scriptures. I have given exhaustive examples with Scripture whereby they should be able to see it. But I know we are in a spiritual battle and men do not see always what God's Word says. So I pray if they do not see it. That is how I would answer my own question. I pray for strength to love them more even amongst our disagreement.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

When someone has a history of berating someone while at the same time stating "please do not take offense" or "may God's love shine upon you", etc., I give that individual a wide berth and could care less about discussing anything with them.

That is a false accusation. Nowhere did I ever attack any one person outright for no reason. If a person says something wrong towards me, it is not wrong for me to point it out. But I strive to attack the false belief and not the person in my many discussions with Scripture. You are new to the forums, so you have not seen all of my 21,000 some posts to accurately judge me.

In either case, I do care for you in Jesus Christ.

 

[A Realist]

No one likes discussing things with a nit picker:
What is your Statement of Faith?

 

[Bible Highlighter]

You could always hang out in different areas of the forums. I find that the debate areas are often heated and people even get rude sometimes. But there are threads that are full of kindness and fellowship.

I always just weigh in in the debate threads, not looking for a scripture discussion, and sometimes I post an FYI thread or two. I'm not really looking for a debate. Often when I post a thread it's just to resolve a misunderstanding I have. To gain a broader idea of what possible interpretations might be made of scripture. HTH

Thank you for your kind suggestion. I appreciate it.
I do not have a problem with debate.
Some of my best learning within Scripture has come out of debate threads, and I am willing to admit when I am wrong if they point out something in Scripture that I did not catch before.

It is when some people say things off the top of their head that is not in Scripture and they give cryptic questions or answers in defense (While they ignore the topic of the thread discussion). It is when people tend to want to attack me instead of desiring to stick to the actual topic at hand. My way of handling is prayer. Prayer for strength to love them while they may not appear to be easy to deal with, and to pray that the Scripture I share with them may be opened to their eyes by God.

Anyways, thank you for the kind and friendly Christian advice.

I really do appreciate it.

 

[Tree of Life]

On my many discussions over the years on various different Christian forums, I have discovered that many do not actual discuss or explain all of the verses or portions of Scripture that I bring forth. Instead, some of them will quote their select pet verses from an a-skewed point of view or they go on some kind of strange discussion that is not even found in the Scriptures.

What do you do when Christians will not discuss Scripture with you?

I would suggest you do what Michael Jackson did:

 

[aiki]

On my many discussions over the years on various different Christian forums, I have discovered that many do not actual discuss or explain all of the verses or portions of Scripture that I bring forth. Instead, some of them will quote their select pet verses from an a-skewed point of view or they go on some kind of strange discussion that is not even found in the Scriptures.

What do you do when Christians will not discuss Scripture with you?

I have noticed that you have the unfortunate - and fallacious - practice of "Throwing the Elephant" when you discuss issues with others. You seem to think that if you throw out vast walls of text jammed with verses, that somehow you've made your case well. But a multitude of verses and words don't, by themselves, guarantee a good argument. I have found in the few discussions I've had with you that when I begin to check through the proof texts you cite, very often they don't prove your point at all. Anyway, the "Throwing the Elephant" tactic is used most commonly to smother contrary points of view, to make replying to your posts so laborious and time-consuming that no one wants to bother. And so, they don't. They just skip over your posts, or skim through them, picking out what seems most pertinent to them. If you want more productive discussions, then, I would suggest you stop "Throwing the Elephant."

 

[Bible Highlighter]

No one likes discussing things with a nit picker:
What is your Statement of Faith?

Well, I am only trying to reveal the truth to people. If I believe somebody is stating something that is wrong, and that it can cause confusion to other believers, it is not wrong for me to say something. Maybe I should have contacted him by PM about it. But Scripture says we can correct others according to Scripture.

Look, I get it. You do not like me for whatever reason (because you said nobody likes a nitpicker). But I want you to know that I love you in Jesus Christ and all people (Including anyone who wants to be my enemy). I am asking for friendly Christian advice here and not criticism. So please stay on topic of this thread discussion, friend.

May the Lord bless you.

 

[PloverWing]

On my many discussions over the years on various different Christian forums, I have discovered that many do not actual discuss or explain all of the verses or portions of Scripture that I bring forth. Instead, some of them will quote their select pet verses from an a-skewed point of view or they go on some kind of strange discussion that is not even found in the Scriptures.

What do you do when Christians will not discuss Scripture with you?

One of the reasons I participate in CF is to have discussions with Christians whose points of view are different from mine. It helps me remember (to borrow St Paul's metaphor) that the whole body is not an eye, that the body of Christ also has ears and noses and elbows and toes, and that I need to be aware of the variety that's in all the parts of the body.

When I encounter interpretations of Scripture that are different from mine:

1) I try to have some humility. Maybe the other person has an insight I haven't thought of.

2) I look again at my interpretation of the Scripture passages that I am relying on, to see if there are flaws in my reasoning.

3) I am once again made aware that the Bible contains a variety of points of view on some topics, as its different writers write from their different times and experiences, and also that applying the Bible to our present-day lives and cultures is not a simple, easy task. This is an uncomfortable fact, but a fact nevertheless.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

I would suggest you do what Michael Jackson did:

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Again, this is not an attack thread or criticism thread. Nowhere did I ask for criticism but I asked for Christian advice. I will now go back and make this point clear within the OP.

May God bless you.

 

[Tree of Life]

Again, this is not an attack thread or criticism thread. Nowhere did I ask for criticism but I asked for Christian advice. I will now go back and make this point clear within the OP.

May God bless you.

This thread actually is a veiled criticism thread. You are passively criticizing all posters on CF who tangle with you and saying that they don't or can't hear what the Scriptures are really saying.

 

[dstamps]

On my many discussions over the years on various different Christian forums, I have discovered that many do not actual discuss or explain all of the verses or portions of Scripture that I bring forth. Instead, some of them will quote their select pet verses from an a-skewed point of view or they go on some kind of strange discussion that is not even found in the Scriptures.

What do you do when Christians will not discuss Scripture with you?

Although Iron may sharpen Iron, every individual has a different path to their spiritual destiny. It is the Holy Spirit that must guide us along our unique path. No human knows the path any individual must take to reach their goal.

It is only important that each of us is dedicated to seeking a better understanding of the Ways of GOD no matter how far along our path we are. That focus provides the fertile ground for the Holy Spirit to water the seeds planted in that ground as our seeking Spirit is ready to accept and tend to the growing life.

Therefore, consider those who do not respond as you expected or want them to as following a path that is far from yours. There will be times when someone's path may cross yours or even follow along for a time; but always be prepared for those times to be temporary.

Even if a group of individuals are following entirely different paths, this does not prevent them from working toward a common goal by contributing their different abilities for that purpose. Any High Purpose, will need the unification of many different abilities in order to be realized.

Our physical bodies have many different types of cells making it what it is. I am certain the Body of Christ is the same on the spiritual plane of Reality that is to be Man's eternal home.

 

[Tree of Life]

IMPORTANT NOTE:

Please no criticisms or negative comments towards me.
I am looking for friendly Christian advice as a part of how you would personally respond in this situation. I am already aware of how I would handle this question personally. I am merely seeking to see if you would give a similar answer. May God bless you.​

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What are you really looking to do here, Jason? If you're already convinced that you've got the right response then why are you "looking for advice"? What I think you're doing is passively criticizing the many posters on this forum that disagree with your strange views.

 

[A Realist]

So please stay on topic of this thread discussion, friend.

You asked:

What do you do when Christians will not discuss Scripture with you?

Myself and others are staying on topic by trying to explain to you why many are not willing to discuss scripture with you.

Scripture says we can correct others according to Scripture.

You need to learn when correction is in order.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

This thread actually is a veiled criticism thread. You are passively criticizing all posters on CF who tangle with you and saying that they don't or can't hear what the Scriptures are really saying.

I updated the the thread title to say "Kind Advice Only" as a part of the question, and I updated my original post to make it clear that I want only kind advice only and not negative criticism. I do not attack anyone outright (mentioning names) unless they did something wrong towards me that is clear for all to see. I also did not give the "Where" and the "When" as in regards to my question, either. So it is not an attack upon all posters. All posters do not behave in the way that I have stated. I also know the answer to my own question. My answer is that I would pray for them. I am merely asking my question as how other Christians may deal with this so we can compare notes in a positive way. This was not meant as an attack upon anyone.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

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What are you really looking to do here, Jason? If you're already convinced that you've got the right response then why are you "looking for advice"? What I think you're doing is passively criticizing the many posters on this forum that disagree with your strange views.

Men were astonished at Jesus's teachings. I am only trying to reveal the truth to people. Again, this is not a criticism thread, but a friendly advice thread. What would you do in the situation of the question I asked? I am not interested in what you think about me. That is not what I asked in regards to the thread topic.

May God bless you, even if we disagree.

 

[Tree of Life]

May God bless you, even if we disagree.

If you really want God to bless people, as you say, then you should start trying to be a blessing to people in the way you conduct yourself on this and other forums.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

You asked:

Myself and others are staying on topic by trying to explain to you why many are not willing to discuss scripture with you.

You need to learn when correction is in order.

I updated the thread title to "Kind Advice Only" in regards to my question. This is not a criticism thread. I am asking you in what you would do in regards to the thread question. I already know what I would do in regards to the thread question. I would pray for the individual. What would you do? That is my question. Anything beyond this is an off topic discussion.

May God bless you.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

If you really want God to bless people, as you say, then you should start trying to be a blessing to people in the way you conduct yourself on this and other forums.

Off topic discussion. Please stick to the OP topic of the question and do not criticize me. I have specifically made it clear that I want only kind Christian advice and not criticism. I am interested in what YOU would do in regards to the question. I already know I would answer my own question long before I asked it. The point in my asking it was to compare notes with other believers and see if they would respond in a similar way.

May God bless you.