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Yeah, we worship God.
Also, the Creed is what defines you as a Christian here.

Actually, the forum gives grace for not believing or agreeing with everything in the Nicene creed, which I point out has been modified from the 325 A.D. one in 381 A.D.

Since the disciples did not teach creeds as a means to remind everyone of our faith and the traditions taught of us, I would think Paul would say, prove all things by Him by the scriptures.

What should define any one as a Christian here is by their faith in Jesus Christ; Galatians 3:26
 
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Sorry, we don't believe in Arianism or subordination.

Not familiar with those terms and I am only referring to scripture; not made up statements in that modified Nicene creed of 381 A.D. which I am having trouble finding in the Bible to teach as such.
 
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So you believe that Jesus and the Holy Spirit are subservient to the Father, and that when we worship God, we are worshiping the Father alone and only using Jesus as a tool to get there?

No. The glory of God the Father is what? The glory of the Son. You cannot glorify God the Father any other way but to glorify the Son in worship; see Philippians 2:5-11

You seem to be misusing scripture in a lot of odd ways to show that only one single part of God and not Himself in ALL of His glory is worthy of worship.

John 13:31-32 seems to declare where God's glory is at.

John 14:6 reads as more about salvation when it is about how we are to come to God the Father by and keep coming that way.

Jesus said that any other way is the wrong way; John 10:1 John 10:7

Jesus warned that false prophets will broaden the way ecumenical wise in Matthew 7:13-16 and believers will claim miracles by them ( Matthew 7:21-23 ) whereby they fall down for not heeding His words ( Matthew 7:24-27 )

To avoid falling down and even seeking His Presence in the worship place, is to keep going to Jesus; or risk being left behind at the pre great trib rapture event Luke 13:24-30

John 5:22 is citing a judgment coming and that judgment is in John 5:23

Do I have legitimate concerns or not, especially when Matthew 3:16-17 does not teach the practice of worshiping the Holy Spirit with the Father & the son and thus how can what I say about it being unbiblical as false?
 
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Seal of guarantee, who guarantees what is to come and who guarantees our salvation is through the Devine providence and person of the Holy Spirit, who signs off on our salvation as mission accomplished.

We are coming to the fullness of the knowledge of the Father and the Son and in the fullness of the Son's personage by the miraculous works of the Holy Spirit, who arbitrates and sees through the salvation plan of God in us as his Living Stones, that is in procuring the Living Stones and in building and in also finishing (completing) the Temple of God.

This is what is written -

Zechariah 4:6-9
6So he said to me, “This is the word of the Lord to Zerubbabel: ‘Not by might nor by power, but by my Holy Spirit,’ says the Lord Almighty.

7“What are you, mighty mountain (Body of Christ)? Before Zerubbabel (Symbol of God) you will become level ground. Then he will bring out the cornerstone (Jesus Christ) to shouts of Grace, Grace and Grace be onto Him (by Grace ar we saved through the Spirit of Grace  (Hebrews 10:29)”

8Then the word of the Lord came to me: 9The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this temple; his hands will also complete it. Then you will know that the Lord Almighty has sent me to you.

The Spirit of Grace commission is see to it that all those who are to be written in the a Book of Life are born and justified in Christ and are sanctified by the Holy Spirit, who signs off on their salvation onto redemption as the Advocate on their behalf.
 
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No. The glory of God the Father is what? The glory of the Son. You cannot glorify God the Father any other way but to glorify the Son in worship; see Philippians 2:5-11

John 13:31-32 seems to declare where God's glory is at.

John 14:6 reads as more about salvation when it is about how we are to come to God the Father by and keep coming that way.

Jesus said that any other way is the wrong way; John 10:1 John 10:7

Jesus warned that false prophets will broaden the way ecumenical wise in Matthew 7:13-16 and believers will claim miracles by them ( Matthew 7:21-23 ) whereby they fall down for not heeding His words ( Matthew 7:24-27 )

To avoid falling down and even seeking His Presence in the worship place, is to keep going to Jesus; or risk being left behind at the pre great trib rapture event Luke 13:24-30

John 5:22 is citing a judgment coming and that judgment is in John 5:23

Do I have legitimate concerns or not, especially when Matthew 3:16-17 does not teach the practice of worshiping the Holy Spirit with the Father & the son and thus how can what I say about it being unbiblical as false?

First, the verses in Philippians you quoted does *not* say that the ONLY way to glorify the Father is through Jesus, it just says that confessing Jesus is Lord is to the glory of the Father, or in other words, confessing Jesus is Lord also glorifies the Father.

The Father is only one part of God. If you are going to worship God, you cannot exclude any part of him. He comes as a package deal. All three at once. If you reject the Spirit, then you are rejecting God, just as if you reject the Son or reject the Father, you are rejecting God. If you are not worshiping God in his entire being, then you are rejecting him. There is no in-between. You cannot separate him into three different gods because he is One.

I think you need to be careful about being too legalistic about all of these things. God is not out to get us. He provided us a way through Jesus to be justified from our sin, and it is through the sacrifice of Jesus and his resurrection that we can become closer in relationship to God's entire being. Not just with Jesus himself, but with all three. All of God, including the Father and the Holy Spirit.
 
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When we consider the term homoousian within the Trinitarian Nicene Creed doctrine, we know that we worship the one being, who is one in essence and one in substance. The three persons within the Godhead, who is the one God being, who exist coequally and coeternally.

The One Being has One Holy Spirit who executes the miraculous works of the One Being.

The One Being has One Father who issues a Devine Will and Decree of the One Being.

The One Being has One Son who communicates the Will of the Father to all of Creation as the LOGOS and designated one to one representative of The One Being.

At the end of the day we worship the One Being and we cannot worship, we cannot glorify and we cannot honour only one person at the exclusion of the other persons, because the three are coequals, who operate in unison as the One Being.

Jesus in the flesh is Emmanuel and this means he is God in flesh, where the Father was present in person but not in flesh, as Jesus said the Will is of the Father who is in Him. Jesus would also explicitly state that the Holy Spirit person was also present as he was the person executing the Will of the Father and according to the timing of the Living Word's spoken words as the LOGOS.

Jesus charged the Pharisees of blaspheming the Holy Spirit person when they attacked the miraculous works and yet he said if they ridiculed his person (of the Son), that would have been forgiven. So that in one sentence Jesus brought the Pharisees under God's condemnation.

The Trinity of persons of the Godhead was present when Jesus dwelt with them (John 1:1). The miraculous works were the Devine Providence of the Holy Spirit, because the person of the Son having emptied himself of the Devine Providence was in a servitude state and this explains why Satan unsuccessfully tried to trick him to use his specific persona Devine Providence to save himself. Also Satan unsuccessfully used Peter to defy the Will of God and Jesus would tell Peter "to get behind me Satan".

We need to focus on the Trinity and to comply with the Nicene Creed according to the deep understanding of the term Homoousian.

On Pentecost the Trinity of persons dwells in the justified in Christ believers, because Jesus promised that he and the Father would make their home with us and in us, through the commission of the Holy Spirit person as our beloved Advocate. Which is why the mystery of the Spirit of Grace is only revealed to those who embrace the Spirit of Truth and are led by the Spirit through observance and obedience to him and his voice that speaks to our hearts.

The mystery of God is dispensed through the mysterious person of the Spirit of Grace and if you take your focus away from Him, then you make another Jesus as an idol no different to Buddha, Mohammed, Brahman or any person who is not the Trinity.

The Trinity of God is in us and yet if one excludes one person from the three persons who came on Pentecost, then we exercise spiritual idolatry like the other religions of the world.

Jesus said he will not leave us as orphans for he and the Father will make their homes with us through the person of the Spirit of Grace. In Revelation Jesus says that he stands at the door of our hearts and knocks, in order for us to hear his voice through the Spirit of Grace and so that the Will of the Father is executed by the miraculous works of the Spirit who is putting in place Living Stones as he builds the Temple of God towards its completion.
 
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One of the many reasons I worship the Holy Spirit is because of the time He set me free from a spirit of strife. I was so sure of myself and my knowledge of the Bible that I would constantly stir up arguments wherever I could. I would find small, almost insignificant things and blow them up into a huge doctrinal debate. I would self righteously point to scripture while closing myself of from any possibility of learning anything from anyone else. I listened to others not to hear, but only to find the flaw - real or perceived - in their response so I could immediately pounce with a counter argument.

Then, the Holy Spirit showed me that I was being neither patient, nor kind to my brothers and sisters in Christ. That I was parading myself around, that I was puffed up because of my so called knowledge. That I was behaving rudely to others. That I cared only about my own arguments and that I was provoking arguments with others. That I was assuming evil in my brothers and sisters and rejoicing in their failures to prove me wrong regardless of the truth. I realized that I couldn't bear being challenged, and I was closed to believing anything a fellow believer might say, that when debating me there was no hope of a civil discourse and my behavior must be almost possible to endure.

I tell you what, when the Holy Spirit revealed this to me, it broke me and set me free. And that is why I now and forever will worship the Holy Spirit right alongside the Father and the Son, praise God!

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Proverbs 13:10 - By pride comes nothing but strife, but with the well-advised is wisdom.
 
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Actually, the forum gives grace for not believing or agreeing with everything in the Nicene creed, which I point out has been modified from the 325 A.D. one in 381 A.D.

Since the disciples did not teach creeds as a means to remind everyone of our faith and the traditions taught of us, I would think Paul would say, prove all things by Him by the scriptures.

What should define any one as a Christian here is by their faith in Jesus Christ; Galatians 3:26
Paul says to hold the traditions and he calls the Church "the Foundation and Pillar of Truth".
 
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Not familiar with those terms and I am only referring to scripture; not made up statements in that modified Nicene creed of 381 A.D. which I am having trouble finding in the Bible to teach as such.
Heresies that you are promoting and which were debunked by Christians 1700 years ago.
 
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Revelation 22:10-12,
why didn't you just say up front that you are anti-speaking in tongues as pentacostals interepret it? Some people might agree with that. But you've gone off on a tangent about the nature of the Triune God. You've got your mind made up and don't want to repent of your error. Sadly, I guess we should let your thread go to sleep. :yawn:
 
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Sadly, I guess we should let your thread go to sleep. :yawn:

Contradicting the Nicene Creed is not permitted in any of CF's Christians Only areas. The mods will eventually close this down.
 
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Seal of guarantee, who guarantees what is to come and who guarantees our salvation is through the Devine providence and person of the Holy Spirit, who signs off on our salvation as mission accomplished.

We are coming to the fullness of the knowledge of the Father and the Son and in the fullness of the Son's personage by the miraculous works of the Holy Spirit, who arbitrates and sees through the salvation plan of God in us as his Living Stones, that is in procuring the Living Stones and in building and in also finishing (completing) the Temple of God.

This is what is written -

Zechariah 4:6-9
6So he said to me, “This is the word of the Lord to Zerubbabel: ‘Not by might nor by power, but by my Holy Spirit,’ says the Lord Almighty.

7“What are you, mighty mountain (Body of Christ)? Before Zerubbabel (Symbol of God) you will become level ground. Then he will bring out the cornerstone (Jesus Christ) to shouts of Grace, Grace and Grace be onto Him (by Grace ar we saved through the Spirit of Grace  (Hebrews 10:29)”

8Then the word of the Lord came to me: 9The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this temple; his hands will also complete it. Then you will know that the Lord Almighty has sent me to you.

The Spirit of Grace commission is see to it that all those who are to be written in the a Book of Life are born and justified in Christ and are sanctified by the Holy Spirit, who signs off on their salvation onto redemption as the Advocate on their behalf.

What does scripture says about Who the Holy Spirit will give credit to for that signing off?

John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

Once you recognize the role of the Holy Spirit, then as God, He will not deviate from His word.

The indwelling Holy Spirit cannot be worshiped with outstretched hands in the worship place when He is in us and yet we are called to seek the face of the Lord in the worship place.

Psalm 27:7 Hear, O Lord, when I cry with my voice: have mercy also upon me, and answer me.8 When thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, Lord, will I seek.9 Hide not thy face far from me; put not thy servant away in anger: thou hast been my help; leave me not, neither forsake me, O God of my salvation.

Jesus is called the Bridegroom for a reason. Shouldn't the bride that is waiting for Him, seek His face, especially in worship, seeing that is how we honor the Father in Heaven by honoring the Son in that way?
 
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Try as you might, you cannot find a single verse that says we have to find a Bible verse for everything we believe as Christians. That idea is a modern tradition of men that no-one on Earth ever heard of until a few hundred years ago. The Apostles never heard of it. Jesus Christ never heard of it (which figures since the Bible didn't exist then). What Jesus Christ had to say on the subject is that the ONE Church He founded would always teach the fullness of God's truth, so that is where we are to look in order to find His Word.
I agree that we don't need to find a Bible verse for everything that we believe. I believe that governments are inefficient and tax us too much. I believe that in the future, cars will drive themselves. I believe that the Super Bowl will be a big disappointment. I believe that the value of the Canadian dollar will drop this year in comparison to the US dollar.....

We can believe a lot of things that are not in the Bible...

However, if someone tells you something that is contrary to the Biblical text and basic theme contained in it... then... I would not believe them.

The Bible is a datum... I bounce everything off of it. If it does not pass the Biblical concepts... then I have to look at who is proposing the idea or view and what their motivation is.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 New International Version (NIV)
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

If you ignore this verse and it's wisdom... you are on a slippery slope to destruction, corruption and away from the solid truth to build your life on.
 
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First, the verses in Philippians you quoted does *not* say that the ONLY way to glorify the Father is through Jesus, it just says that confessing Jesus is Lord is to the glory of the Father, or in other words, confessing Jesus is Lord also glorifies the Father.

I get that emphasis on obeying Paul on having that mind of Christ as the specified way of worship and so yeah, the only way.

Then you have Jesus's own words on how we are to come to God the Father by and He did say He is the only way.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Look at that verse. I mean, really look at it and ask Jesus if He really meant that. If you need conformation...

John 10:1Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.....7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.

Now if we are to reprove the works of darkness, how can this not reprove worshiping the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son especially since there is no scripture teaching anyone, let alone the church to do that kind of worship in that way?

Then you have His warning in Matthew 7:13-14 and the consequence mentioned in Matthew 7:21-27 for why in these latter days, He emphasizes striving to enter thru that straight gate in Luke 13:24-30

The Father is only one part of God. If you are going to worship God, you cannot exclude any part of him. He comes as a package deal. All three at once. If you reject the Spirit, then you are rejecting God, just as if you reject the Son or reject the Father, you are rejecting God. If you are not worshiping God in his entire being, then you are rejecting him. There is no in-between. You cannot separate him into three different gods because he is One.

I think you need to be careful about being too legalistic about all of these things. God is not out to get us. He provided us a way through Jesus to be justified from our sin, and it is through the sacrifice of Jesus and his resurrection that we can become closer in relationship to God's entire being. Not just with Jesus himself, but with all three. All of God, including the Father and the Holy Spirit.

Since it was only the Son that had died on the cross and not the Triune God, then I would pay attention to His words for why Jesus is the only way to come to God the Father by in worship since He is our Passover Lamb. Since the Holy Spirit has been sent to testify of the Son to glorify the Son thru us, how can we come to God the Father to worship Him in any other way than by only honoring the Son?
 
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When we consider the term homoousian within the Trinitarian Nicene Creed doctrine, we know that we worship the one being, who is one in essence and one in substance. The three persons within the Godhead, who is the one God being, who exist coequally and coeternally.

The One Being has One Holy Spirit who executes the miraculous works of the One Being.

The One Being has One Father who issues a Devine Will and Decree of the One Being.

The One Being has One Son who communicates the Will of the Father to all of Creation as the LOGOS and designated one to one representative of The One Being.

At the end of the day we worship the One Being and we cannot worship, we cannot glorify and we cannot honour only one person at the exclusion of the other persons, because the three are coequals, who operate in unison as the One Being.

Jesus in the flesh is Emmanuel and this means he is God in flesh, where the Father was present in person but not in flesh, as Jesus said the Will is of the Father who is in Him. Jesus would also explicitly state that the Holy Spirit person was also present as he was the person executing the Will of the Father and according to the timing of the Living Word's spoken words as the LOGOS.

Jesus charged the Pharisees of blaspheming the Holy Spirit person when they attacked the miraculous works and yet he said if they ridiculed his person (of the Son), that would have been forgiven. So that in one sentence Jesus brought the Pharisees under God's condemnation.

The Trinity of persons of the Godhead was present when Jesus dwelt with them (John 1:1). The miraculous works were the Devine Providence of the Holy Spirit, because the person of the Son having emptied himself of the Devine Providence was in a servitude state and this explains why Satan unsuccessfully tried to trick him to use his specific persona Devine Providence to save himself. Also Satan unsuccessfully used Peter to defy the Will of God and Jesus would tell Peter "to get behind me Satan".

We need to focus on the Trinity and to comply with the Nicene Creed according to the deep understanding of the term Homoousian.

On Pentecost the Trinity of persons dwells in the justified in Christ believers, because Jesus promised that he and the Father would make their home with us and in us, through the commission of the Holy Spirit person as our beloved Advocate. Which is why the mystery of the Spirit of Grace is only revealed to those who embrace the Spirit of Truth and are led by the Spirit through observance and obedience to him and his voice that speaks to our hearts.

The mystery of God is dispensed through the mysterious person of the Spirit of Grace and if you take your focus away from Him, then you make another Jesus as an idol no different to Buddha, Mohammed, Brahman or any person who is not the Trinity.

The Trinity of God is in us and yet if one excludes one person from the three persons who came on Pentecost, then we exercise spiritual idolatry like the other religions of the world.

Jesus said he will not leave us as orphans for he and the Father will make their homes with us through the person of the Spirit of Grace. In Revelation Jesus says that he stands at the door of our hearts and knocks, in order for us to hear his voice through the Spirit of Grace and so that the Will of the Father is executed by the miraculous works of the Spirit who is putting in place Living Stones as he builds the Temple of God towards its completion.

Thank you for sharing, but even though the Three Persons of the One God are co equal, They do not operate the same office when Jesus Christ is the only Mediator between God and man.

Since it was only the Son that had died on the cross and not the Triune God, then I would pay attention to His words for why Jesus is the only way to come to God the Father by in worship since He is our Passover Lamb. Since the Holy Spirit has been sent to testify of the Son to glorify the Son thru us, how can we come to God the Father to worship Him in any other way than by only honoring the Son?
 
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"And [we believe] in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Giver of Life, who proceeds from the Father; who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; who spoke by the prophets."
That's it in a nutshell........ who can argue?
 
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Focusing *only* on the Holy Spirit exclusively or *only* on Jesus exclusively or *only* the Father exclusively is equally wrong. While Jesus acts as our High Priest and mediator, and we can ask for things in his name, we are not to use that as an excuse to pretend that the Father and the Holy Spirit are non-existent and undeserving of worship in their own right. ALL are God and equally deserving of focus and worship. Again, they are a package deal and you can't get one without the other two.

How the Holy Spirit may or may not affect believers in worship is really a different conversation altogether.
Another great post on what I would have figured to be simple "Trinity 101".

I guess people can be confused about anything.
 
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I get that emphasis on obeying Paul on having that mind of Christ as the specified way of worship and so yeah, the only way.

Then you have Jesus's own words on how we are to come to God the Father by and He did say He is the only way.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Look at that verse. I mean, really look at it and ask Jesus if He really meant that. If you need conformation...

John 10:1Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.....7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.

Now if we are to reprove the works of darkness, how can this not reprove worshiping the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son especially since there is no scripture teaching anyone, let alone the church to do that kind of worship in that way?

Then you have His warning in Matthew 7:13-14 and the consequence mentioned in Matthew 7:21-27 for why in these latter days, He emphasizes striving to enter thru that straight gate in Luke 13:24-30



Since it was only the Son that had died on the cross and not the Triune God, then I would pay attention to His words for why Jesus is the only way to come to God the Father by in worship since He is our Passover Lamb. Since the Holy Spirit has been sent to testify of the Son to glorify the Son thru us, how can we come to God the Father to worship Him in any other way than by only honoring the Son?
This has already been explained... These verses are talking about salvation. The work that Christ did on the cross is why He is the door...
It does not remove the fact that the God Head is three.... The Father, Son and Holy Spirit...

However, belief in Christ is what brings salvation..It does not diminish the position in the God Head of the Father.. nor the Holy Spirit.
 
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One of the many reasons I worship the Holy Spirit is because of the time He set me free from a spirit of strife. I was so sure of myself and my knowledge of the Bible that I would constantly stir up arguments wherever I could. I would find small, almost insignificant things and blow them up into a huge doctrinal debate. I would self righteously point to scripture while closing myself of from any possibility of learning anything from anyone else. I listened to others not to hear, but only to find the flaw - real or perceived - in their response so I could immediately pounce with a counter argument.

Then, the Holy Spirit showed me that I was being neither patient, nor kind to my brothers and sisters in Christ. That I was parading myself around, that I was puffed up because of my so called knowledge. That I was behaving rudely to others. That I cared only about my own arguments and that I was provoking arguments with others. That I was assuming evil in my brothers and sisters and rejoicing in their failures to prove me wrong regardless of the truth. I realized that I couldn't bear being challenged, and I was closed to believing anything a fellow believer might say, that when debating me there was no hope of a civil discourse and my behavior must be almost possible to endure.

I tell you what, when the Holy Spirit revealed this to me, it broke me and set me free. And that is why I now and forever will worship the Holy Spirit right alongside the Father and the Son, praise God!

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Proverbs 13:10 - By pride comes nothing but strife, but with the well-advised is wisdom.

A brother in India had shared that at one time, he did not believe the Holy Spirit would do dramatic manifestations any more like He did back in the early church days until one Pentecostal calendar day, his church was honoring the Holy Spirit in worship. He felt something like liquid nitrogen seeping through his skull, and before he knew it, he was confessing an apology to the Holy Spirit against his will.

Discern that. Why would the Holy Spirit "invade" him in such a way to coerce an apology from him against his will? Was that the Spirit of Christ? What does this event tells other believers to do? Seek after more manifestations like that. What is the difference between what this does and what others are doing in slain in the spirit, holy laughter movement, Toronto's Blessings, Pensacola Outpouring, Ernest Angeley's Healing Crusade where he "Whhoooooo" to announce the Holy Spirit falling on a believer He is about to heal where focus is on the Holy Spirit in the worship place? Why is there confusion in all of those events when God is not the author of it?

Was that the Holy Spirit answering those calls? Was it not the Holy Spirit being honored in worshiped?

Why would God allow strong delusion to occur when honoring the Holy Spirit in worship?

You may say well.. when there is confusion, that was not the Holy Spirit, but I point out, that brother was honoring the Holy Spirit and that had happened. How are you going to convince him that was not the Holy Spirit when he was honoring the Holy Spirit in worship? How can you convince any one that was not the Holy Spirit when people are falling backwards and in confusion in spite of the verse that God is not the author of confusion? 1 Corinthians 14:32-33

Jesus spoke about it in Matthew 7:13-27 and again in Luke 13:24-30 for why He is calling believers and churches to narrow the way back to Him in worship or risk the consequence of suffering a thief to break thru by which many fall.

The Holy Spirit is in you. He is leading us to testify of the Son to glorify the Son in worship. That's His job. It is the spirit of the antichrist that would take that spotlight off of the Son ( instead of Christ ) to seduce believers into chasing after them to receive for a sign, even for a sign of tongues which never comes with interpretation which is why that gibberish nonsense is confusion and not of Him at all .
 
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Paul says to hold the traditions and he calls the Church "the Foundation and Pillar of Truth".

If worshipping the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son was of traditions, he would have taught that.
 
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