Really? It is pretty elementary stuff.I don’t know where it is “up there”.
A book on Mao that has nothing to do with the Chinese space program. Ok This isn't evidence for anything.
I mean you can come up with all kinds of government consipiracy BS but fact is there have been many non-governmental people in space. For example, take a look at the Red Bull Stratos space jump. Fully privately funded.
Furthermore, I don't count "a photo of the horizon" as proof of curvature or the lack of it. Likewise, I don't accept high altitude photographs as proof of curvature or the lack of it. Neither do I accept a photo of a boat "vanishing behind the curve" as proof of either.
With all that said, I've chosen to accept knowing that I don't know what shape the Earth is, much less what the lights are above my head, shining in the night. I choose to accept what scripture says and while I do continue to question, research, and experiment, it's my ultimate authority at this point.
LOL friend go threw what we were talking about, up to you asking for a sourceA book on Mao that has nothing to do with the Chinese space program. Ok This isn't evidence for anything.
Some have that type of time and did you know what else? Some sailors are FEs. Then again, FEs are also in the military too. It's almost like FEs are just people and they come from all walks of life, eh?You could spend a few months sailing around the world and navigating using "global" maps, you would soon find out.
Key word, BELIEVE. But we have proven with evidence over and over again that we have.First, you're forgetting that the majority of Flat Earthers don't believe humans are able to travel beyond the firmament (dome). Therefore, no one could possibly get a photo or video, due to that barrier.
How can I have knowledge of something that doesn't exist?In fact, a lot of your counter-points indicate you have limited knowledge of the model the majority of FE's use. Perhaps you should go do some research yourself, purely for sake of not appearing ignorant?
Can you provide evidence where they were dishonest? Or is this just your personal opinion?Did you know it's not only FEs who distrust NASA's space imagery? For example, NASA's dishonesty has made me distrust them to the point I don't believe a single thing they have to say, much less the fanciful images they show the world.
I see this as a sound position. If an organization is constantly engaging in fraud, do you trust them? Do you trust them if even they are caught engaging in fraud once? Personally, I've given NASA way too much of my time and too many holes to slither out from, throughout the years. I'm just done with them and that goes for the other space agencies as well.
We have observed a globe not a flat earth. That is why it makes it a globe. If we observed a flat earth then we would make it a flat earth. We observe white clouds not green ones. Pretty simple concept.Does any of this make the Earth flat? No. However, it doesn't make it a globe either. So, where does that leave me? Certainly, I can continue to believe the world is a sphere, spinning on its axis, whirling around a giant sun, zipping around something called a galaxy, speeding around this massive body called "the great attractor", all expanding at a speed I won't even discuss.
And the bible does not say the Earth is flat.I can do that or I can trust my eyes and what the Bible says. Does that make me ignorant? Actually, no, since I'm aware of the various counter-points as well as the workings of the opposing model. I should be, I was obsessed with understanding it at one point.
You contradict yourself here. You say you don't know what shape the earth is but you KNOW it's not a globe? Interesting. Not one shred of evidence that the earth is not a globe except for your claim that God states this in the bible in which he does not.~~~
For example, as an aside, a lot of FEs maintain that "water can't stick to the outside of a ball" and "we can't observe water sticking to the outside of a ball". Yes, they are right. However, only because we are living on a large body (mass) and its gravity is greater than anything which might exist on it. In other words, it's impossible to observe "water sticking to the outside of a ball" or behaving in any manner other than being pulled down by the force of the Earth's gravity.
It doesn't matter if the ball is spinning or stationary, water isn't going to stick to it on Earth. Furthermore, examples of "water drops" aren't acceptable because this is simply surface tension; it's the same thing which occurs to larger amounts of water on a Zero-G flight. Actually, this also happens in acoustic levitation experiments, where a bead of water is suspended by sound waves alone.
Furthermore, I don't count "a photo of the horizon" as proof of curvature or the lack of it. Likewise, I don't accept high altitude photographs as proof of curvature or the lack of it. Neither do I accept a photo of a boat "vanishing behind the curve" as proof of either.
With all that said, I've chosen to accept knowing that I don't know what shape the Earth is, much less what the lights are above my head, shining in the night. I choose to accept what scripture says and while I do continue to question, research, and experiment, it's my ultimate authority at this point.
Its all good friend, red bull a massaive company ran by the... Wait never mind agree to disagreeI mean you can come up with all kinds of government consipiracy BS but fact is there have been many non-governmental people in space. For example, take a look at the Red Bull Stratos space jump. Fully privately funded.
How's it fake? Is this your opinion or can you provide evidence that it is fake?... and I call this one fake too.
Yes ran by an Austrian entrepreneurIts all good friend, red bull a massaive company ran by the... Wait never mind agree to disagree
I mean you can come up with all kinds of government consipiracy BS but fact is there have been many non-governmental people in space. For example, take a look at the Red Bull Stratos space jump. Fully privately funded.
It is not really name-calling, more of a colloquialism, but sorry you took it that way.I'm not a conspiracy nut. Can you avoid the name-calling, please?
So it's easy for you to understand...How can I have knowledge of something that doesn't exist?
Can you provide evidence where they were dishonest? Or is this just your personal opinion?
And the bible does not say the Earth is flat.
You contradict yourself here. You say you don't know what shape the earth is but you KNOW it's not a globe? Interesting. Not one shred of evidence that the earth is not a globe except for your claim that God states this in the bible in which he does not.
No, it's not. You don't know me or why I believe what I do. Why do you choose to assume so much?It is not really name-calling, more of a colloquialism, but sorry you took it that way.
Is 'one who accepts crazy conspiracies at face value while rejecting science and reality backed explanations' better?
...It also declares the firmament and other than the ice canopy theory (flawed), that's hard to explain on a globe unless you get into "expanse" and assert that other verses (like from Job) are figurative or simply man's incorrect understandings.