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I have no dichotomy because that verse says NOTHING about the Holy Spirit. It just says 'Spirit' all three times. You 'assume' it's the Holy Spirit because modern day scribes capitalized spirit all three times. There was no capitalization in the Greek justifying capitalization for any reason other than the indoctrination of modern 'scribes'. But it is spelled out as being the spirit of Christ the third time mentioned in that one verse. And it is the same "spirit" that is being spoken of all three times, in the context of that verse. And that "spirit" isn't the Holy Spirit of God in Jesus. It is the spirit of Christ which Jesus yielded up to the Father. And in every translation of 'that verse' the yielded 'spirit' is NEVER capitalized. Translators have great inconsistency concerning this issue as I've said for years here.Here we have a dichotomy. You are saying someone can be saved without the Holy Spirit, and Romans 8:9 says they must have the Holy Spirit to be saved.
ROM 8:9 But you are not in the flesh, you are in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Any one who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.
The only spirit of/FROM God in A BELIEVER is the spirit of Christ. Even as I proved in post #339....with absolutely no one refuting anything I said. So read Rom 8:9 without the capitals and realize that 'the truth is' there's a difference between the 'spirit of Christ' and the 'Holy Spirit of God'. SO, no dichotomy with my theology because my theology has sought the 'jewel of consistency' way better than the carnal minded theology of orthodoxy today IMO.
All born again FROM the Holy Spirit receive a holy born again spirit of the man within them. That's what Jesus told Nicodemus.All born again of the Spirit are given the authorities and abilities of Mark 16:16-18. These are just for the individual believer, and just as the whole armor of God is given to all individual believers, part of the whole armor is praying in the Spirit, Ephesians 6:18.
JOH 3:5 Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
You didn't receive the Holy Spirit of God at the rebirth of your spirit. You received a holy spirit, and that spirit was the spirit of Christ in you. The same "spirit" which was in the Jesus on the Cross. We have the same "spirit of Christ" in us which Jesus had IN him. And it is that "spirit of Christ" which makes US one with the many membered 'body of Christ'. Jesus the Christ himself being the 'head' and 'cornerstone' of that BODY singular.
No confusion on my part.There is, however, more fillings of the Holy Spirit that you may be confusing with this initial one in Acts 2, that are for ministry in the Church Acts 4:29-31. Those are listed in 1 Corinthians 12 and are not given to all who believe, 1 Corinthians 12:30.
Tell me SCRIPTURALLY when did Jesus get the Holy Spirit? And was it poured INTO him or UPON him? I'll quote my verses first and then you can scripturally respond with.....nothing, I'm betting.
MAT 12:18 "Behold, my servant whom I have chosen, my beloved with whom my soul is well pleased. I will put my Spirit upon him,
LUK 3:22 and the Holy Spirit descended upon him in bodily form, as a dove,
LUK 4:18 "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor.
JOH 1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
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