Earth, then light (Big Bang), Created on Day One; Sun, Moon and Stars Created on Day Four

[StevenMerten]

A thousand years is a euphemism for an indefinite period of time.

Hello Eloy,
So what are you trying to say, Eloy? Are you saying that God telling us, in Genesis, that Creation happened in Seven Days, is really a euphemism meaning any amount of time, even 13.8 billion years?

 

[Eloy Craft]

Hello Eloy,
So what are you trying to say, Eloy? Are you saying that God telling us, in Genesis, that Creation happened in Seven Days, is really a euphemism meaning any amount of time, even 13.8 billion years?

yes. A day designates a series of events that begins and ends more than a specified period of time. For instance take a look at this calculation using the timeline recorded in the line of Adam in Genesis. From creation week to the first drop of rain of the flood.

If you count the weeks from creation week to the day of the flood, it equals 86,400 weeks. From creation to the very day it began began to flood, 86,400 weeks passed.

There are 86,400 seconds in a day.

The weeks are counted by using the age of the father when the son was born. Noah's age and then Genesis gives the number of days within the year by giving the date. "in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month," That equals 45 days or 6.48 weeks.

The calculation.

Adam 130 years whern Seth is born
Seth 105 when Enosh is born
Enosh 90 when Kenan was born
Kenan 70 Mahalel was born
Mahalel 65 when Jared is born
Jared 162 when Enoch is born
Enoch 65 when Methusaleh was born
Methusaleh 187 when Lamech was born
Lamech 182 when Noah was born
Noah was 600 years old when the flood began.

Gen 7:11 " In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep burst forth, and the windows of the heavens were opened.

Total years from creation to flood = 1656 years

1656 AT 52.17 weeks per year = 86,393.52 weeks

Noah is 600 yrs old at the time of flood, it's anywhere within the 45th day of that year.

45.36/7 day week =6.48 weeks).

86,393.52 + 6.48 = 86,400 weeks from creation to destruction.
"on the precise day named"

There are 86,400 seconds in a 24 hour cycle.

 

[StevenMerten]

yes. A day designates a series of events that begins and ends more than a specified period of time.

God clearly defines the 'Days' of Creation, as darkness and light cycles, which God defines as 'Days'. Even today we use God's term 'day' to define, light to dark cycles, on earth.

Dose anyone else think that Elroy is correct in thinking that God's term 'day', in the Book of Genesis, is not referring to dark and light cycles?

Genesis 1:1 The Story of Creation.

Day One
In the beginning, when God created the heavens and the earth and the earth was without form or shape, with darkness over the abyss and a mighty wind sweeping over the waters—

Then God said: Let there be light, and there was light.

God saw that the light was good. God then separated the light from the darkness. God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” Evening came, and morning followed—the first day.

God called the dome “sky.” Evening came, and morning followed—the second day.

Evening came, and morning followed—the third day.



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[Eloy Craft]

God clearly defines the 'Days' of Creation, as darkness and light cycles,

Hold on. I didn't disagree with that. Although there is a day without darkness. It isn't a cycle but an eternal day.

 

[StevenMerten]

Hold on. I didn't disagree with that. Although there is a day without darkness. It isn't a cycle but an eternal day.

Hello Eloy,
God lives outside of the physical world and physical time that He Created. God is Omin-present and Eternal God. God can go anywhere in physical time He desires at any time. God can hold the whole of physical time in the palm of His Hand.

What part of God talking about His Days of Creation, make it look like He is talking about an 'eternal' day? Darkness/night comes, God says its another 'day'.

I think you are trying to distort what God means as 'day' in the Book of Genesis.

 

[StevenMerten]

Hello Eloy,

According to Space.com: 'Earth is 4.54 billion years old' How Old is Earth?

Space.com, puts Earth as being created 9.3 billion years from God's 'Let There Be Light', 'big bang'. God says that He created earth and later that same day One of Creation, God said, "Let There Be Light!", which is when the big bang goes off. Does this 9.3 billion years fit into what you refer to as an 'eternal day One of Creation'? Are you comfortable with a 9.3 billion year span of God's First Day of Creation? Are you comfortable with the concept of atheist scientists putting the big bang before the creation of earth, in contradiction to God?

Genesis 1:1 The Story of Creation.

Day One
In the beginning, when God created the heavens and the earth and the earth was without form or shape, with darkness over the abyss and a mighty wind sweeping over the waters—

Then God said: Let there be light, and there was light.

God saw that the light was good. God then separated the light from the darkness. God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” Evening came, and morning followed—the first day.
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[Sound Doctrine]

Note that even scripture asks us to observe the world around us, count the stars Abraham, observe the ant, the sparrows, lilies, leopards, the wind, the sea, seek wisdom, scripture does not demand we keep our head in the sand, there is no law against reason, seeking knowledge or wisdom.

'The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. (Psalm 19:1)

“But ask the animals, and they will teach you, or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
8 or speak to the earth, and it will teach you, or let the fish in the sea inform you.
9 Which of all these does not know that the hand of the LORD has done this?
10 In his hand is the life of every creature and the breath of all mankind. (Job 12)

I like that you posted directing me to the Scriptures. Of course, we are to observe what God has created. The problem we as Christians face is the false science used to explain creation not being created, and with no Creator. This is what I admonish people to recognize and turn away from, and to stick strictly to the Bible. As you pointed out, the Bible tells us to look at creation, but knowing that there is the Creator, and not denying Him. 1 Timothy 6:20-21 - "20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: 21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith." Paul is not condemning all science, but that which denies God. Science is to explain how God created the earth and all in it, and the universe and all in it, as best we can. It is not to be used to explain away God and His works, nor to try to explain the spiritual things.

 

[Sound Doctrine]

Creation Day Four
Then God said: Let there be lights in the dome of the sky, to separate day from night. Let them mark the seasons, the days and the years, and serve as lights in the dome of the sky, to illuminate the earth. And so it happened: God made the two great lights, the greater one to govern the day, and the lesser one to govern the night, and the stars.

God set them in the dome of the sky, to illuminate the earth, to govern the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. God saw that it was good. Evening came, and morning followed—the fourth day.​

Hello Sound Doctrine,
God tells us that He created the sun, moon and stars on the Fourth Day of Creation. God says that it is with the creation of the sun and moon, on the fourth day, that the days and the years will be marked (with the 24 hour day).

You are in error of scriptures, and in error of sound doctrine, when you say this happened on Day 1 of Creation.

I disagree that I am in error here. Genesis 1:3- - "3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day." The Shekhinah glory of God shone on the earth at this point in place of the sun. The word "day" is the same at this point as it is when the sun and moon, etc. are created and the days by them starting in day 4. "In the beginning" there was no time established in any way, so measurement of the age of the earth is impossible because there was nothing to measure until He created time. God created time when he defined that the evening and the morning are a day, from day 1 onwards.

 

[SinoBen]

On Day One, God created earth. Then God said "Let There Be Light". I think it is obvious that the first light in the Universe was, what scientist refer to as, 'The Big Bang'. Earth was created first, and then the Big Bang was Commanded by God to come into existence.

I have to disagree with this analysis and go with a couple of the other posters.

Perspective looking at the entire cosmos:

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. ["big bang"]​

Perspective looking from the surface of the Earth now follows:

The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.​

At this point the earth as in many other cases of planets covered with a very thick atmosphere, it was all dark on the surface. The light of the Sun does not reach down past those thick "clouds" to the surface of the Earth.

Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light.​

Here God dispels unwanted atmosphere and allowed the light of the Sun to now penetrate and reach the surface of the Earth.

If some of you would like to get more detail on this line of thinking and see how the steps as written in Genesis can and do correspond to the book of nature please go to reasons.org and I highly recommend reading Dr Hugh Ross' work, testimony and ministry. I have never met him but there are tons of youtube videos.

My take:
The Bible is the standard of truth, the book of Nature can only reflect that, if it doesn't, it's only because we don't know enough yet. Meanwhile, we know more and more and the correspondence is remarkable.

 

[StevenMerten]

The word "day" is the same at this point as it is when the sun and moon, etc. are created and the days by them starting in day 4. "In the beginning" there was no time established in any way, so measurement of the age of the earth is impossible because there was nothing to measure until He created time. God created time when he defined that the evening and the morning are a day, from day 1 onwards.

Creation Day Four
Then God said: Let there be lights in the dome of the sky, to separate day from night. Let them mark the seasons, the days and the years, and serve as lights in the dome of the sky, to illuminate the earth. And so it happened: God made the two great lights, the greater one to govern the day, and the lesser one to govern the night, and the stars.

God set them in the dome of the sky, to illuminate the earth, to govern the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. God saw that it was good. Evening came, and morning followed—the fourth day.​

Hello Sound,
Then what do you say was created on the Fourth Day of Creation, if not the, 24 hours in a day, day, and the year of 365 days?

Light to dark cycles were Created on Day One, and God called it a day. On Day Four of Creation, the sun is created to give earth light, and now the, "Let them mark the seasons, the days and the years", 24 hours in a day, is Created, and the 365 days in a year, are Created.

 

[StevenMerten]

The Earth is a sphere, a fact that dates to ancient Greece. But for a small segment of the population, this scientific fact is debatable. So-called Flat-Earthers truly believe our planet is a flat disc ringed by an ice wall. To keep up with all things flat, and round, Live Science reports on the news related to flat-Earth beliefs and the science supporting our round home.
Flat Earth​

Hello Sound,
Sometimes I jump the gun and assume all modern day people believe in our planet system, which God Created on the Fourth Day of Creation. Are you a Flat Earth, Creationist?

The following U-tube video is God's Creation of Earth's solar system. With the exception of Earth, of course. Earth drops out of light speed and is immediately caught in our sun's gravity, where Earth begins her orbit around the sun. Thus 24 hours a day, 365 days in a year, are now 'Marked' as God puts it, controlled by our sun. Our sun also, only now, becomes Earth's light source, for Earth's dark to light cycles.

Remember, on Earth, only days are passing by, while God is creating the rest of the universe around Earth. If God has Earth moving at the speed of light, while the rest of Creation is moving at a far slower velocity, then, using Time Dilation, billions of years of star and planet formation, can occur in six, even 24 hour, days.

God and man use the number of dark to light cycles occurring on earth to date the age of the universe. So it does not matter how many billions of years old the universe looks like, on earth only six days went by from the big bang to Adam and Eve on Earth, simply because both man (scientists included) and God use dark to light cycles occurring on earth, as the 'clock' to measure the amount of physical time passing by during Creation. If earth is at the speed of light during the first four days of creation, then Creation literally could have only taken six, 24 hour days or even 2.5 hour days, to come into existence. Even atheist scientists have to agree with this, because this is how Time Dilation works.

 

[Sound Doctrine]

The Earth is a sphere, a fact that dates to ancient Greece. But for a small segment of the population, this scientific fact is debatable. So-called Flat-Earthers truly believe our planet is a flat disc ringed by an ice wall. To keep up with all things flat, and round, Live Science reports on the news related to flat-Earth beliefs and the science supporting our round home.
Flat Earth​

Hello Sound,
Sometimes I jump the gun and assume all modern day people believe in our planet system, which God Created on the Fourth Day of Creation. Are you a Flat Earth, Creationist?

The following U-tube video is God's Creation of Earth's solar system. With the exception of Earth, of course. Earth drops out of light speed and is immediately caught in our sun's gravity, where Earth begins her orbit around the sun. Thus 24 hours a day, 365 days in a year, are now 'Marked' as God puts it, controlled by our sun. Our sun also, only now, becomes Earth's light source, for Earth's dark to light cycles.

Remember, on Earth, only days are passing by, while God is creating the rest of the universe around Earth. If God has Earth moving at the speed of light, while the rest of Creation is moving at a far slower velocity, then, using Time Dilation, billions of years of star and planet formation, can occur in six, even 24 hour, days.

God and man use the number of dark to light cycles occurring on earth to date the age of the universe. So it does not matter how many billions of years old the universe looks like, on earth only six days went by from the big bang to Adam and Eve on Earth, simply because both man (scientists included) and God use dark to light cycles occurring on earth, as the 'clock' to measure the amount of physical time passing by during Creation. If earth is at the speed of light during the first four days of creation, then Creation literally could have only taken six, 24 hour days or even 2.5 hour days, to come into existence. Even atheist scientists have to agree with this, because this is how Time Dilation works.

No, the earth is round. I know more about astronomy than you realize. All things are and were put in their place by God. This includes the beams of light which reach the earth from all the stars we can or will ever detect. The Doppler effect exists, showing movement of the stars, galaxies, etc., but all have moved from their original position placed by God when He created them. This is one reason I don't believe in a "Big Bang". Time has nothing to do with God speaking everything into existence, as God lives in the eternal, we in a creation. God created time as we use it now, with respect to the length of days... all days. Your flat earth thing is non sequitur. The speed of light thing is as well regarding creation. When time was established at creation, God controlled it... there is no scientific way to calculate it. There is no scientific way to calculate the age of the earth and the universe because of the reasons I just gave. Radiometric dating types don't agree with each other, carbon dating is limited in scope of time and to biological matter only. There is no way to date either accurately in biological matter or at all with rock. We know how old the universe is, but we don't know how old the earth is, since it was here "in the beginning." - before time. The earth became dark and void when Satan and the fallen angels were cast down to it when they rebelled against God. They are darkness and so darkened the earth, thus existing in darkness. God cast His light when He made the first day, and until He created the sun and the moon, which then took their places as ruling the day and night respectively.

 

[zelosravioli]

I appreciate your statements, but you aren't a flat Earther are you..? (I read this as if you only providing someone elses beliefs)

Anyways, I suspect that science does 'now' measure space and time generally by the speed of light, and or the breakdown of atomic elements. Which I confess are spoken of as fractions of the time the earth rotates (minutes, seconds) but these measurements no longer depend on the duration or rotation of the Earth anymore than a foot depends on the length of what is inside your shoe.

Also I don't believe 'science' would agree with a calculation that would sustain any theory that has matter, or the Earth, moving 'at' the speed of light (which seems necessary to support this theory).

The Earth is a sphere, a fact that dates to ancient Greece. But for a small segment of the population, this scientific fact is debatable. So-called Flat-Earthers truly believe our planet is a flat disc ringed by an ice wall. To keep up with all things flat, and round, Live Science reports on the news related to flat-Earth beliefs and the science supporting our round home.​

Flat Earth​

Hello Sound,
Sometimes I jump the gun and assume all modern day people believe in our planet system, which God Created on the Fourth Day of Creation. Are you a Flat Earth, Creationist?

The following U-tube video is God's Creation of Earth's solar system. With the exception of Earth, of course. Earth drops out of light speed and is immediately caught in our sun's gravity, where Earth begins her orbit around the sun. Thus 24 hours a day, 365 days in a year, are now 'Marked' as God puts it, controlled by our sun. Our sun also, only now, becomes Earth's light source, for Earth's dark to light cycles.

Remember, on Earth, only days are passing by, while God is creating the rest of the universe around Earth. If God has Earth moving at the speed of light, while the rest of Creation is moving at a far slower velocity, then, using Time Dilation, billions of years of star and planet formation, can occur in six, even 24 hour, days.

God and man use the number of dark to light cycles occurring on earth to date the age of the universe. So it does not matter how many billions of years old the universe looks like, on earth only six days went by from the big bang to Adam and Eve on Earth, simply because both man (scientists included) and God use dark to light cycles occurring on earth, as the 'clock' to measure the amount of physical time passing by during Creation. If earth is at the speed of light during the first four days of creation, then Creation literally could have only taken six, 24 hour days or even 2.5 hour days, to come into existence. Even atheist scientists have to agree with this, because this is how Time Dilation works.

 

[StevenMerten]

I appreciate your statements, but you aren't a flat Earther are you..? (I read this as if you only providing someone elses beliefs)

Anyways, I suspect that science does 'now' measure space and time generally by the speed of light, and or the breakdown of atomic elements. Which I confess are spoken of as fractions of the time the earth rotates (minutes, seconds) but these measurements no longer depend on the duration or rotation of the Earth anymore than a foot depends on the length of what is inside your shoe.

Also I don't believe 'science' would agree with a calculation that would sustain any theory that has matter, or the Earth, moving 'at' the speed of light (which seems necessary to support this theory).

Hello Zelosravioli,
I am not a flat earth guy. Planets are spheres, we have a solar system, and earth came into our solar system, on the Fourth Day of Creation, on the week Adam was made.

Have you visited my other thread: The Aliens are going to laugh at earth cosmologists explaining 13.8 billion years from creation. ? In it I describe Earth's brightest Cosmologists explaining to a gathering of Aliens how Creation happened 13.8 billion years ago. The Aliens are going to be laughing at earth cosmologists till they pea their pants. This is because earth cosmologists are using earth's present day velocity to define the duration of physical time since creation. Aliens, from a full spectrum of home planet velocities, will have calculated the time from Creation, from a full spectrum of different elapsing physical time, perspectives.

Physical time is a variable which changes depending on velocity. A planet where physical time elapses at half the rate it does at earth's velocity, is going to have a, time since Creation, of half of that which was observed from earth's velocity. A planet where physical time is elapsing one hundred times slower than it does at earth's present day velocity, is going to have a time since creation, one hundred times less than that calculated from earths present day velocity.

It does not matter how you cut it, earth's cosmologists are using the present day measurement of our earth's, dark light cycles, which are our earth's rotation, and our earth's orbit around the sun, to tell us how much time has elapsed since creation. If scientists were to take earth's clock, travel to a planet where physical time was elapsing at half the rate it does on present day earth, and do their measurements of time since Creation there, they would come up with the time since creation of 6.9 billion 'present day earth years', rather than 13.8 billion years, they calculate from earth's present day velocity. The Aliens are going to see earths cosmologists as fools for even thinking there is some sort of 'time since Creation' constant, other than what God tells us, seeing that physical time is a variable, depending on velocity, and not a constant.

Time since the big bang, God's "Let There Be Light!, on the First Day of Creation, is not a constant in the universe; It varies depending on velocity.

Do you agree?

 

[StevenMerten]

I don't believe 'science' would agree with a calculation that would sustain any theory that has matter, or the Earth, moving 'at' the speed of light (which seems necessary to support this theory).

Hello zelosravioli,
Atheist scientists base their whole scientific reputation on their belief that the mass of one septillion stars suddenly popped into existence, from nothing, without any assistance from God. Who are you going to put your faith in as to the logical person? Atheist scientists or God's Word that He is our Creator?

According to God, Earth was Created First, then God said, "Let There Be Light!" which is, what scientists see as 'the big bang', where everything else in the universe came into existence. This is a huge, whole different story than earth coming into existence from within the 'big bang', because now you have Time Dilation. The reason you have Time Dilation, is because the mass of one septillion stars is going to have massive gravitational force which will pull, little mass, earth, toward it with tremendous force. Enough force to bring earth up to near the speed of light.

 

[StevenMerten]

Time dilation and space flight​

Time dilation would make it possible for passengers in a fast-moving vehicle to travel further into the future while aging very little, in that their great speed slows down the rate of passage of on-board time. That is, the ship's clock (and according to relativity, any human traveling with it) shows less elapsed time than the clocks of observers on earth. For sufficiently high speeds the effect is dramatic. For example, one year of travel might correspond to ten years at home. Indeed, a constant 1 g acceleration would permit humans to travel through the entire known Universe in one human lifetime. The space travelers could return to Earth billions of years in the future.

A scenario based on this idea was presented in the novel Planet of the Apes by Pierre Boulle.

Quoted From: Wikipedia Time Dilation​

For anyone who is not familiar with how physical time actually works, I provide an example.

Physical time stops elapsing at the speed of light. The closer you get to the speed of light, the slower physical time elapses.

Suppose you decide to "travel through the entire known Universe in one human lifetime" as Wikipedia Time Dilation explanation describes. You travel 100,000 billion light years in your travels. When you come back to earth, 100,000 billion years will have passed on earth in your 60 years of traveling. This is how physical time actually works.

So, the question becomes, how many years from God's Creation is it now? Is it now 113.8 billion years from God's Creation? Or is it now 13.8 billion years + your 60 years, from God's Creation?

The rate at which physical time elapses varies depending on your velocity.

 

[zelosravioli]

Ive read alot of books on astrophysics, and I've been fascinated with it since i was young. I know there are stellar objects that have been recorded to move at thousands of miles per second, and there is a star that is flying away from us at 20 million miles per hour and light around 600 million, yet that is like 20mph vs 600mph. Time slows relatively but you have to be real near light speed. Still for time to hold 'still', relatively speaking, you have to be at the speed of light. And still mass increases extensively at that point also... I've read recently that gravitational fields aren't nearly as strong as some physicists have suggested at those distances..

I've never heard this idea before - Earth moving at such a speed - I'll give it some thought.
I appreciate your interest in it.

 

[StevenMerten]

Ive read alot of books on astrophysics, and I've been fascinated with it since i was young. I know there are stellar objects that have been recorded to move at thousands of miles per second, and there is a star that is flying away from us at 20 million miles per hour and light around 600 million, yet that is like 20mph vs 600mph. Time slows relatively but you have to be real near light speed. Still for time to hold 'still', relatively speaking, you have to be at the speed of light. And still mass increases extensively at that point also... I've read recently that gravitational fields aren't nearly as strong as some physicists have suggested at those distances..

I've never heard this idea before - Earth moving at such a speed - I'll give it some thought.
I appreciate your interest in it.

Hello Zelosravioli,
Can you please confirm that billions of years of star formation can occur in six days, according to the natural laws of physical time, Time Dilation. I talk till I am blue in the face about Time Dilation and as soon as I get another science guy on the subject, the conversation immediately moves to the next, lower level, objection. I would really appreciate it if you would confirm that what I am talking about is the way that physical time behaves. You do not have to agree that God can get earth to move at near the speed of light, only that billions of years of star formation can occur if something is moving at near the speed of light. If you have objections to Time Dilation allowing billions of years of star formation to occur in six days, please let us discuss this, first, before we move on.

Many people here do not understand that physical time is a variable not some sort of constant in the universe. We are on a Creationism Forum. Knowing that billions of years of star formation can occur in six days, according to the laws of physical time, is a good thing to understand.

I do, of course, have ideas on how God got earth moving at near the speed of light.

 

[StevenMerten]

Hello to all of my fellow Creationists,

Do you all understand that physical time is not the obstacle to God's six days of Creation? It is scientifically proven that billions of years of star formation can literally occur in six days on earth.

The obstacle is atheist scientist evil human pride. All of atheist science logic, knowledge and discovery is based on their belief of a 'creation', where the mass of one septillion stars, along with empty space, suddenly popped into existence, on the head of a needle, from nothing, without the help of God. So while their scientific discovery of what came into existence at atheist 'creation', is totally logical and believeable, the fact that they believe the universe of one septillion stars came into existence, from nothing, without God's help, is total scientific lunacy.

It is the obstacle of atheist scientist's explanation of 'creation', from nothing, without God's help, that is hindering you from understanding that scientifically, billions of years of star formation can occur in six days. I am here to help you get past the obstacle of atheist scientists false 'creation' they have created and defend, at all cost, even the cost of their reputations as scientists.

 

[Eloy Craft]

Do you all understand that physical time is not the obstacle to God's six days of Creation? It is scientifically proven that billions of years of star formation can literally occur in six days on earth.

But it's such a reach to think the earth's formation and velocity are a singular phenomenon. There is no evidence to support it.

The obstacle is atheist scientist evil human pride. All of atheist science logic, knowledge and discovery is based on their belief of a 'creation', where the mass of one septillion stars, along with empty space, suddenly popped into existence, on the head of a needle, from nothing, without the help of God. So while their scientific discovery of what came into existence at atheist 'creation', is totally logical and believable, the fact that they believe the universe of one septillion stars came into existence, from nothing, without God's help, is total scientific lunacy.

Suddenly popped into existence ex-nihilo just about proves a creator God. I know they try to hypothesize that something came from nothing but that's a loopy round about. Lucky for us the universe is intelligible. Even Atheists have faith in that. Science wouldn't exist otherwise. They are looking for a cyclic universe. Theologically speaking who cares anyway? However it happened God did it.

It is the obstacle of atheist scientist's explanation of 'creation', from nothing,

My astronomy instructor on the firwst day of class explained, he said; I'm not going to be teaching you the truth. I'm going to teach you the current state of the art. That's the best science can do. Science doesn't concern it'self with matters of faith. It's out of the realm that science exists within.