Is repentance a "one time act" or is it, or should it be "a way of life" (here)...?

[RDKirk]

Is repentance a "one time act" or is it, or should it be "a way of life" (here) (while we are here)...?

Comments...?

God Bless!

Aren't you already participating in another active OSAS thread?

Because that's what this will shape up to be.

 

[Neogaia777]

Aren't you already participating in another active OSAS thread?

Because that's what this will shape up to be.

That subject or topic does come up a lot, maybe many of these subjects are linked, I don't know...?

How would OSAS work into this though and in your view...?

God Bless!

 

[servantofiam]

Obviously, the OSAS is a false doctrine!!

Here are scriptures proving Christ did not give us a license to sin and that believers can backslide:


From Yeshua:
John 5:
14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.

***We know that when Yeshua claims you have been made whole, that it actually means He has forgiven your sins. But here Jesus tells this person that His sins have been forgiven, but He then WARNS this person, to SIN NO MORE LEST A WORST THING MAY HAPPEN!!

Now, when God warns us that a worst thing can happen to us if we keep sinning, what do you think God means?

I believe it means the worst thing is ETERNAL DAMNATION from continuing to sin. And that kicks the OSAS false doctrine in the TEETH ***





The verse that proves you can be saved and if you keep sinning you are compared to as a DOG EATING ITS OWN VOMIT!!

2 Peter 2:

20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.






Obviously, we DO NOT have a license to sin AFTER becoming saved. And anyone who believes as such should be viewed as a liar and of the antichrist spirit!!

 

[Neogaia777]

Obviously, the OSAS is a false doctrine!!

Here are scriptures proving Christ did not give us a license to sin and that believers can backslide:


From Yeshua:
John 5:
14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.

***We know that when Yeshua claims you have been made whole, that it actually means He has forgiven your sins. But here Jesus tells this person that His sins have been forgiven, but He then WARNS this person, to SIN NO MORE LEST A WORST THING MAY HAPPEN!!

Now, when God warns us that a worst thing can happen to us if we keep sinning, what do you think God means?

I believe it means the worst thing is ETERNAL DAMNATION from continuing to sin. And that kicks the OSAS false doctrine in the TEETH ***





The verse that proves you can be saved and if you keep sinning you are compared to as a DOG EATING ITS OWN VOMIT!!

2 Peter 2:

20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.






Obviously, we DO NOT have a license to sin AFTER becoming saved. And anyone who believes as such should be viewed as a liar and of the antichrist spirit!!

Jesus was saying not to "that sin" anymore, after what he did about it for him or her for it, or to get rid of it of it for them, because they could not, ect... And, also, even though maybe a worse thing might happen to or with them if they do go back to it, (that particular thing) they will still go to heaven if they are His...

Or do you think Jesus was saying something like, Don't sin and sins at all anymore ever, or your gonna burn and fry forever in hell" basically...?

Do you see the problem here...?

God Bless!

 

[servantofiam]

Jesus was saying not to "that sin" anymore, after what he did about it for him or her for it, or to get rid of it of it for them, because they could not, ect... And, also, even though maybe a worse thing might happen to or with them if they do go back to it, (that particular thing) they will still go to heaven if they are His...

Or do you think Jesus was saying something like, Don't sin and sins at all anymore ever, or your gonna burn and fry forever in hell" basically...?

Do you see the problem here...?

God Bless!

What I see is you interpreting scripture for your own purpose. And people who sin thinking it's ok because they are His is very much like how Einstein defined insanity..."doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results."

And let's use your reasoning here for a moment, that this person better not sin the same sin any more. If there is going to be something worse happen if this person commits this specific sin, then why would committing other sins not also come with the possibility of something worse happening?

I see you are singling out specifics to make your case, while not seeing the entire picture, which makes your case much like Einstein's definition of insanity!!

And you completely avoided what Peter wrote, that people who like US knowing the Truth of Christ, can return back to their sinful ways and that it would had been better if they NEVER KNEW the truth to begin with!!

This very much explains also in the same light as believing that sinning is ok while believing you are saved, and ultimately being mentally trapped in the lie that you can keep sinning.

Whether it is Christ or Peter, they both speak of the same thing, that being made whole/saved/knowing the Truth and then keep sinning will ultimately get you in the end!!

 

[SkyWriting]

That didn’t really answer the question. Do you believe Jesus gave us a free to sin card? Was that His message?

It was a Free from Sin card. Sin is not counted for the faithful.

 

[BNR32FAN]

It was a Free from Sin card. Sin is not counted for the faithful.

So we as Christians can join the Mexican cartels and sell drugs, steal whatever we want, force people into sex slavery, and chop off the heads of all the family members of those who oppose us including children and were still saved? Is this correct with what you believe?

 

[Neogaia777]

So we as Christians can join the Mexican cartels and sell drugs, steal whatever we want, force people into sex slavery, and chop off the heads of all the family members of those who oppose us including children and were still saved? Is this correct with what you believe?

It is not possible for those truly of the faithful to have a true desire or love of, or for those things... but it is possible with some other sins or other things that the some of the ones who call themselves truly of the faithful criticize and condemn them and judge them (the truly truly of the faithful) for, that can even lead to persecuting and killing them and it has in the past...

Anyway, many of the truly truly of the faithful, can and do commit some kinds of sin or sins sometimes, for many of them are just not quite perfect in that way, and they should not be judged or persecuted or whatever for that, that is between them and God, and only God can be the Judge about that or any of it...

We judge when an where we have to, like in instances of the kinds of sins you mention for example...

God Bless!

 

[BNR32FAN]

And WILLINGNESS,
and good soil..... (a right heart before God) .....


and Yahweh's Directed / His Approval-Heaven Initiated PRAYER,

Concerning your post regarding 2 Corinthians 6:14

Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

together


G2086


Lemma:

ἑτεροζυγέω


Transliteration:

heterozygéō


Pronounce:

het-er-od-zoog-eh'-o


Part of Speech:

Verb


Language:

greek


Description:

1) to come under an unequal or different yoke, to be unequally yoked a) to have fellowship with one who is not an equal: 2Cor 6:14, where the apostle is forbidding Christians to have intercourse with idolaters

 

[FenderTL5]

Is repentance a "one time act" or is it, or should it be "a way of life" (here) (while we are here)...?

Comments...?

God Bless!

Not only is repentance a way of life - making one's confession, confessing Christ is Lord is also an ongoing way of life and not a one time event.

 

[BNR32FAN]

It is not possible for those truly of the faithful to have a true desire or love of, or for those things... but it is possible with some other sins or other things that the some of the ones who call themselves truly of the faithful criticize and condemn them and judge them (the truly truly of the faithful) for, that can even lead to persecuting and killing them and it has in the past...

Anyway, many of the truly truly of the faithful, can and do commit some kinds of sin or sins sometimes, for many of them are just not quite perfect in that way, and they should not be judged or persecuted or whatever for that, that is between them and God, and only God can be the Judge about that or any of it...

We judge when an where we have to, like in instances of the kinds of sins you mention for example...

God Bless!

I don’t believe it is so much about the sin itself but the heart that sins and how we react to our sins. If we are carefree about our sins and live in willful sin out of a desire to continue in sin then we have not been born again and become a new creation. If we do not desire sin and are remorseful of our sins and do not willfully indulge in sin then we are showing signs of being born again.

 

[servantofiam]

It was a Free from Sin card. Sin is not counted for the faithful.

Explain to me how it is a FREE from sin card when the 10 Commandments ARE NOT part of the Law?

Have you ever read about the contents kept inside the Ark of the Covenant?
It includes the LAW ""and the"" 10 Commandments...
The ""and the"" distinguishes that the Law and 10 Commandments are TWO SEPARATE entities.

Which means, if the Law has been fulfilled, the 10 Commandments are now the
LAW for both Jew/Gentile.

So, how is sin dead to the 10 Commandments?
If you break any of the 10 Commandments you are SINNING!!

 

[servantofiam]

It is not possible for those truly of the faithful to have a true desire or love of, or for those things... but it is possible with some other sins or other things that the some of the ones who call themselves truly of the faithful criticize and condemn them and judge them (the truly truly of the faithful) for, that can even lead to persecuting and killing them and it has in the past...

Anyway, many of the truly truly of the faithful, can and do commit some kinds of sin or sins sometimes, for many of them are just not quite perfect in that way, and they should not be judged or persecuted or whatever for that, that is between them and God, and only God can be the Judge about that or any of it...

We judge when an where we have to, like in instances of the kinds of sins you mention for example...

God Bless!

Yeshua said that His sheep both hear His voice and obey it.

Did Yeshua ever sin?
NO, He did not!!

So, if we are hearing His voice as His sheep, how can we be sinning and it be acceptable?

The load of crap you spew you needs multiple shovels to clean up

 

[BNR32FAN]

Yeshua said that His sheep both hear His voice and obey it.

Did Yeshua ever sin?
NO, He did not!!

So, if we are hearing His voice as His sheep, how can we be sinning and it be acceptable?

The load of crap you spew you needs multiple shovels to clean up

You never sin? Unfortunately I don’t know a single Christian who makes that claim.

 

[servantofiam]

You never sin? Unfortunately I don’t know a single Christian who makes that claim.

I try my best not to but unfortunately that is not good enough. The Holy Spirit inside of me let's me know when I have sinned because LIGHT and darkness CANNOT dwell together. I immediately seek forgiveness if and when I sin. And I have discovered, the Holy Spirit seems more relaxed in me when I am sin free.

But, I don't believe in the false doctrine of Grace because Yeshua said He came to have MERCY, the Mercy of God upon us. So, I believe in God's Mercy, not the false doctrine of Grace. The Holy Spirit has NEVER ignored my sin and made me feel it's ok that I have sinned. No, if/when I sin, the Holy Spirit attacks my consciousness reminding me of my sin until I seek forgiveness of it. This is why I know those who believe they can sin and it is OK is flat out LYING, or, they clearly do not have the Holy Spirit within them!!

 

[BNR32FAN]

I try my best not to but unfortunately that is not good enough. The Holy Spirit inside of me let's me know when I have sinned because LIGHT and darkness CANNOT dwell together. I immediately seek forgiveness if and when I sin. And I have discovered, the Holy Spirit seems more relaxed in me when I am sin free.

But, I don't believe in the false doctrine of Grace because Yeshua said He came to have MERCY, the Mercy of God upon us. So, I believe in God's Mercy, not the false doctrine of Grace. The Holy Spirit has NEVER ignored my sin and made me feel it's ok that I have sinned. No, if/when I sin, the Holy Spirit attacks my consciousness reminding me of my sin until I seek forgiveness of it. This is why I know those who believe they can sin and it is OK is flat out LYING, or, they clearly do not have the Holy Spirit within them!!

Well we are saved by grace but it is absolutely not a license to sin. If we willfully sin without repentance we will lose our salvation. So many are deceived by the false doctrine of eternal security. None of the churches established by the apostles taught eternal security. It wasn’t until the 15th century that eternal security emerged in Christianity. What really puzzles me is so many who advocate eternal security believe the apostles did a great job spreading the gospel. Well if eternal security is true then that would mean they actually did a terrible job of performing the task that Jesus hand picked them to do since it took over 1600 years for the doctrine of eternal security to emerge and not one of the churches they established by the apostles ever taught eternal security. I maintain that the apostles did an excellent job of performing their task and the churches they established taught the truth of God’s word. Jesus would not have picked them if they were going to fail.

 

[servantofiam]

Well we are saved by grace but it is absolutely not a license to sin. If we willfully sin without repentance we will lose our salvation. So many are deceived by the false doctrine of eternal security. None of the churches established by the apostles taught eternal security. It wasn’t until the 15th century that eternal security emerged in Christianity. What really puzzles me is so many who advocate eternal security believe the apostles did a great job spreading the gospel. Well if eternal security is true then that would mean they actually did a terrible job of performing the task that Jesus hand picked them to do since it took over 1600 years for the doctrine of eternal security to emerge and not one of the churches they established by the apostles ever taught eternal security. I maintain that the apostles did an excellent job of performing their task and the churches they established taught the truth of God’s word. Jesus would not have picked them if they were going to fail.

Let me ask a simple question here:

Before I present the question, keep in mind I agree with you 100% on everything but the saved by Grace.

If Yeshua/Jesus says we are saved by the Mercy of God and Paul says we are saved by the Grace of God, who is factually correct (God as Yeshua/Jesus or Paul as a servant of God as Yeshua/Jesus)?

 

[servantofiam]

Something else to add:

if eternal security was taught by Yeshua/Jesus (which it was not), then Judas who betrayed Christ and then committed suicide is up in heaven!!

And, I do not believe that at all!!

 

[BNR32FAN]

Let me ask a simple question here:

Before I present the question, keep in mind I agree with you 100% on everything but the saved by Grace.

If Yeshua/Jesus says we are saved by the Mercy of God and Paul says we are saved by the Grace of God, who is factually correct (God as Yeshua/Jesus or Paul as a servant of God as Yeshua/Jesus)?

If you believe the Bible is the word of God both must be correct. If we begin to question the validity of the Bible then we have absolutely nothing to base our beliefs on.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Something else to add:

if eternal security was taught by Yeshua/Jesus (which it was not), then Judas who betrayed Christ and then committed suicide is up in heaven!!

And, I do not believe that at all!!

According to John 6:64 Judas was not a believer.