Canadian SC: Christian law school can't forbid students from gay sex

[PeaceByJesus]

LOL. Yes let’s just get rid of the free press, it will be great!

Oh its not just the press that you must acknowledge does not provide equal treatment (nor should it be compelled to), but increasingly schools, businesses and the government.

 

[Hieronymus]

WRONG: Jews as subhuman refers to what they racially are, not behavior they do. To be analogous, Nazis would have been forbidding bar mitzvahs. Confusing race with behavior is a confusion that is part of confusing make with female.

Off topic, but you should read some Talmud about non Jews...
And i've heard / read / seen that it was the Jews who declared war on Germany in the early 30s.
Had to do with the debt based Rothschild banksters iirc.
Controversies, controversies...
One day we will know the true stories behind our history book tellings...

 

[PeaceByJesus]

No, as a registered voter I have a problem with it.

God is not up for reelection, and your objection was a theological one.

 

[essentialsaltes]

No it was their rulers.
And as for the semantic jugglery, don't pretend you didn't understand my question.

I did understand the question you asked. I can't help that you meant to ask something different.

...which you still haven't answered...

Easily done. There are no gods. No gods were behind Hitler. But this doesn't mean all that much.

What does mean something is that the vast majority of Germans were Christian. The vast majority of the German army was Christian. The vast majority of German soldiers did not think their belt buckles referred to any other god than their own Christian one.

 

[NBB]

Christians may be upset about all this because between other things, the acceptance of sin as good calling evil good and ok and trying to impose that on people and teach it is totally against what we believe, and with that society just degrades sinking itself more in sin.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Off topic, but you should read some Talmud about non Jews...
And i've heard / read / seen that it was the Jews who declared war on Germany in the early 30s.

Please, do tell us more.

 

[PeaceByJesus]

The accusation was that people were trying to indoctrinate kids into BECOMING gay or trans, not into ACCEPTING queer or trans people. And I’ll let my trans friends who can’t afford surgery know they just need to get sentenced to prison in Canada. LOL.

Did you dare give this more than a cursory glance:

he went on to candidly confess that this indoctrination, "is absolutely my goal. I want to make your children like people like me and my family, even if that goes against the way you have interpreted the teachings of your religion." Bergman fantasized that in an ideal world he would have been "ushered into the world of queerness with care and tenderness by experienced homos" (akin to "camp counselors"), "and issued my leather jacket and my protest pins, my safer sex supplies..."

And indoctrination of kids into BECOMING gay or trans is working, and thus the substantial increase in them affirming they are, while tax payer only certainly is being used due to the consequences of homosexual relations.

"The estimated discounted lifetime cost for persons who become HIV infected at age 35 is $326,500 (60% for antiretroviral medications, 15% for other medications, 25% non-drug costs). [Undiscounted "mean lifetime costs are $597,300 ($4,200)" "Discounted costs are highlighted throughout because they represent economic costs that take into account time preferences of individuals and society and the opportunity cost of funds"] The Lifetime Medical Cost Savings from Preventing HIV in the United States

Now if a Christian religious practice resulted in 83% of HIV cases among men [URL='https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/group/msm/index.html']aged 13 and older [/URL](despite only representing approximately 4% of the male population) and a greatly increased incidence of other infectious diseases and premature death, and despite decades of attempting to tame it into being "safe," and costly treatment then i do not think i need to tell you what the overall reaction would be.

 

[Hieronymus]

I did understand the question you asked. I can't help that you meant to ask something different.

Hah! Funny.

Easily done. There are no gods. No gods were behind Hitler. But this doesn't mean all that much.

Indeed it doesn't...

What does mean something is that the vast majority of Germans were Christian. The vast majority of the German army was Christian. The vast majority of German soldiers did not think their belt buckles referred to any other god than their own Christian one.

Yeah, and it's a complicated story, of which we only know the text book version...
I honestly don't know what to think of it anymore...
You can dive deep into it, and explore it from all kinds of highly controversial angles, but my attempts left me in total doubt...
Maybe the Jews won the war. It got them their country back...
Either way, Hitler's reign didn't bare the fruits by which Christians can be known.
Where did he get the money anyway?
Occultism and racism are the opposite of Christian fruits.
Let alone hating Jews.
But i can understand why they preferred to see the Jews have their own land somewhere else.
Look what they did to Russia not too long before.
Madagascar was considered, but they didn't want to go there.
But again, i have found no conclusive point of view on the whole matter.
Only that the official version is probably a lot of propaganda.

(Sorry about the off topickness.)

 

[PeaceByJesus]

The Christian church has participated in all kinds of antisemetism over the years, not just in NAZI Germany.

So? So-called "Christian churches" have done many things that are clearly not seen and contrary to what is manifest in the only wholly inspired substantive authoritative record of what the NT church believed (including how they understood the OT and gospels), which is Scripture.

That is your evident enemy, as vain and tragic as that battle is.

 

[PeaceByJesus]

Everything you teach a toddler is “programming.” We “program toddlers to share, and to say “please” and “thank you.” The biggest “programmer” of children is probably religion.

This is true. Certainly you are not against that, but oppose NT Christians raising up children in the way they should go, as a guest on a Christian forum.

 

[PeaceByJesus]

They are the victims of employment discrimination (in many states it is still legal to fire someone for being gay,) bigotry driven violence (trans women are at risk of being MURDERED just for being trans,) and being treated by people like you as if they are disgusting, bad, sinful, and dirty just because of the way they were born. I could go on, but I think that is plenty.

Hieronymus thinks homosexuals are disgusting, bad, sinful, and dirty because of the way they were born? Wow. I did not know if even believes they were born as all that.

The word of God teaches we are all born with a nature prone to sin, and in need of the New Birth from Above, and that being prediposed to a certain desire or behavior simply cannot necessarily justify it or acting it out.

 

[Hieronymus]

Hey, is she putting words in my mouth again?
It seems i missed that...

 

[PeaceByJesus]

I've always taught my children to treat homosexuals and transgenders with respect and dignity. Not one of my seven children has ever given any indication that they are gay or transgender. And for the record, it wouldn't matter to me or to my husband if one of them is either gay or transgender.

Contrary to typical homosexual propaganda, I am friendly toward them and have helped them, (and say my former lesbian neighbor come to Christ) and would gladly change their tire right now if needed, but that does change my position toward homosexuality and relations.

 

[JackRT]

Are you kidding me? You really don't see that those were homosexuals that wanted to "know" the angel, and that, that was the wickedness? are you really waiting for them to spell it out? That's the same almost scary classic denial i see often here on the same subject. People refuse to see what's right in front of them.

I beg to differ. Homosexual rape has been used since antiquity as a way for one heterosexual male to humiliate and dominate another. This has nothing whatsoever to do with an innate homosexual attraction in the same way that in most cases a man raping a woman has nothing to do with heterosexual attraction. Both situations are about power, humiliation and domination. BTW there are a number of such rapes that are recorded in history --- both Richard III and Mohamar Ghadaffi were raped before being killed. This is in strong contrast to the ancient Middle Eastern tradition of hospitality.

Ezekiel 16:9 -- "Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy."

I find it quite odd that over the centuries this has come to be regarded as a homosexual crime when it is clear that what happened in S & G is a crime committed by heterosexuals to humiliate strangers. I suppose this is so because there was no understanding in those days that there was such a thing as a natural homosexual orientation --- anything other than heterosexual was regarded as unnatural. This has led to centuries, indeed millennia, of abuse and persecution of a very small segment of society. I am pleased that they are gaining those human and civil rights that have been long denied them. Perhaps this is the Holy Spirit acting?

 

[Hieronymus]

They are the victims of employment discrimination (in many states it is still legal to fire someone for being gay,) bigotry driven violence (trans women are at risk of being MURDERED just for being trans,) and being treated by people like you as if they are disgusting, bad, sinful, and dirty just because of the way they were born. I could go on, but I think that is plenty.

Hey, cool down a little, will you?
What's all this nonsense about how i treat gays and transgenders?
What makes you think you know how i treat them?
What's your problem?
Problems reading?
Maybe delusional?

I used to have a friend who was born a man, and who is now a woman.
Or at least, she was when i last saw her, years ago already.
Her initial bliss of being the new person wore off in a few years.
Increasingly depressed. I felt sorry for her.
And then i found out she was trans gender.
And then eventually we never saw her again...
Hope she's okay..

 

[PeaceByJesus]

1) why was it the lesser of two evils?
2) why did he need to offer ANYONE to be raped?

Because 1. they were strangers with no family, and thus were most likely to have been killed, and 2.,, he lived among them and understood that "know them" did not mean doing I.D. checks, and thus the substitute of virgin daughters was offered. See parallel story in Judges 19.

But we do not know if Lot would actually follow thru on his promise, for in his quite evident naivety, he made have hoped that the shock of this offer would show them how important his hospitality to these strangers was.

 

[Hieronymus]

It was a census, so the people were self-identifying as Christians. Just as people do on CF (and it's against the rules to claim they aren't).

It's not against the rules to say you will know them by their fruits.
And that works both ways.
Good fruit = good tree
Bad fruit = bad tree.
By the way, i self identify as a duck.
Do you think i'm a duck?

 

[PeaceByJesus]

It was a census, so the people were self-identifying as Christians. Just as people do on CF (and it's against the rules to claim they aren't).

Which simply does not mean they were Scriptural Christians, and thus invoking them does not help your argument. The issue here is if a Christian college has solid basis for the required moral behavior at issue. It does.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Which simply does not mean they were Scriptural Christians, and thus invoking them does not help your argument.

Certainly it does. I don't care whether they satisfy you. I know they weren't worshipping Jupiter or Aphrodite. They were Christians who worshipped Jesus. That is the god they thought was with them, in answer to the question asked of me.

 

[essentialsaltes]

By the way, i self identify as a duck.
Do you think i'm a duck?

No, you're just a liar. I don't believe 95% of the Germans were lying on their census forms.