No as I've already posted to you on this.
Not really brother you just posted you did not believe the scripture provided to you that show God's ISRAEL are all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD. Gentiles are now grafted in to God's ISRAEL *
ROMANS 11:13-27. If you are not a part of God's ISRAEL you have no part in the new covenant *
HEBREWS 8:10-12. Gentiles are now grafted in *ROMANS 11:13-27
Here's a full quote from Hebrews 8: - Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; You're free to show this isn't the famous 10, if you can.
Sure no problem happy to share God's WORD. The OLD COVENANT was made up of God's 10 Commandments *
DEUTERONOMY 4:13 and the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT *
EXODUS 24:7. God's 10 Commandments were spoken *
EXODUS 20:1-19 and written by GOD alone *
EXODUS 32:16 and the book of the Covenant was written *
DEUTERONOMY 31:24 and spoken by MOSES *
EXODUS 24:4-7 alone (under God's guidence).
TOGETHER both God's eternal law (10 commadments) written on stone and the MOSAIC BOOK of the Covenant are the OLD COVENANT. They were both SEPARATED and housed in the ARK OF THE COVENANT. God's LAW was placed inside the ARK of the COVENANT *
DEUTERONOMY 10:5 while the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT was placed in the side of the ARK of the COVENANT *
DEUTERONOMY 31:26
DEUTERONOMY 10:5 [5] And I turned myself and came down from the mount, and put the tables in the ark which I had made; and there they are, as the LORD commanded me.
Yep there is the 10 Commandments housed in the ARK of the COVENANT.
DEUTERONOMY 31:26 [26] Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against you.
EXODUS 24:7 [7] And he took the BOOK OF THE COVENANT, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the LORD has said will we do, and be obedient.
So in summary here it is both the God's eternal law (10 Commandments) that give us the KNOWLEDGE of sin and the shadow laws from the MOSIAC BOOK of the Covenant that made up the OLD COVENANT.
The NEW COVENANT is not like the OLD COVENANT. We no longer do animal sacrifices and the shadow laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT *
EXODUS 24:7 that pointed to JESUS and God's plan of salvation in the NEW are fulfilled in Christ and his mimistration as our great sacrifice and high Priest who ministers on our behalf in the Heavenly Sanctuary made without hande.
You mix up the shadow laws from that MOSAIC book of the covenant *
EXODUS 24:7 brother with God's eternal law that give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *
ROMANS 3:20;
ROMANS 7:7;
1 JOHN 3:4;
PSALMS 119:172 that show us we are all sinners and lead us to Christ that we might be forgiven by faith *
GALATIANS 3:22-25 to be free from our sins to walk in his Spirit *
GALATIANS 5:16.
SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (
James 2:9-11;
Romans 7:7;
1 John 3:4) Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.
The NEW COVENANT is not the same as the OLD COVENANT *
HEBREWS 8:10-12, we no longer need to follow the Shadow LAWS from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT that all pointed to JESUS and God's plan of salvation in the NEW COVENANT.
Back to HEBREWS 8. The NEW COVENANT is not like the OLD COVENANT brother all the Shadow laws from the MOAIC BOOK that pointed to JESUS and God's plan of salvation in the NEW COVENANT are fulfilled in the NEW. The OLD has passed away. No more animal sacrifices and sin offerings, new Prieshood with JESUS as our great sacrifice and Great high priest ministering on our behalf in the heavenly sanctuary made without hands.
God's LAW written on stone leads us to Christ that we might be forgiven by Faith and free to walk in his Spirit *GALATIANS 3:22-25; GALATIANS 5:16; ROMANS 8:1-4. Faith the works by LOVE fulfills the NEW COVENANT promise of HEBREWS 8:10-12 of God's LAW written on the heart through LOVE *ROMANS 13:8-10.
Yep the OLD COVENANT is not like the NEW *HEBREWS 8:8-9. No more shadow laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 pointing to JESUS and God's plan of salvation in the NEW COVENANT.
Romans 11 doesn't say graft into Israel.
No it says that Gentiles are grafted in among God's ISRAEL and are a part of God's ISRAEL.
ROMANS 11:17, And if
some of the branches be broken off [UNBELIEVING ISRAEL], and you [GENTILES], being a wild olive tree,
were grafted in among them [BELIEVING ISRAEL], and with them [BELIEVING ISRAEL] partake of the root and fatness of the olive tree.
Who were the branches that were broken off?
[18],
Boast not against the branches. But if you boast, you bore not the root, but the root you. [19], You will say then,
The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in. [20], Well;
because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Be not high minded, but fear: [21], For if God spared not the
natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not you.
[23], And
they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in:
for God is able to graft them in again.
[24], For
if you were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
Who are the natural branches brother that were broken off because of their UNBELIEF in God's WORD that can be grafted back in through BELIEVING God's WORD?
[25],
For I would not, brothers, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.
ROMANS 11 is talking about being grafted into CHRIST the ROOT among the other branches [BELIEVING ISRAEL]. GOD'S ISRAEL ARE the BRANCHES. SOME where broken off because of their UNBELIEF.
Identify these commandments in both your references.
No problem.
JOHN 14:15 IF YOU
LOVE ME KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS
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MATTHEW 22:36-40
[36] Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
[37], Jesus said to him,
You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
[38], This is the first and great commandment.
[39], And the second is like to it, You shall love your neighbour as yourself.
[40],
ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS.
CONCLUSION: IF we LOVE GOD we will keep his Commandments because on the two great commandments of LOVE hang all the law and the prophets. *EXODUS 20:1-17
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1 JOHN 2:3-4
[3], And
hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
[4],
He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
The
context here is SIN...
1 JOHN 2:1-2
[1], My little children,
these things write I to you, that you sin not. And
if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
[2], And he is the propitiation
for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the
sins of the whole world.
So the meaning of
1 JOHN 2:3-4 is determined by the context which is that we SIN NOT. So to determine what commandments
1 JOHN 2:3-4 is talking about we need to determine know what sin is which is the CONTEXT.
WHAT IS SIN?
JAMES 2:8-12
[8], If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself, ye do well:
[9], But if ye have respect to persons, YOU COMMIT SIN, AND ARE CONVINCED OF THE LAW AS TRANSGRESSORS.
[10], For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
[11] For he that said, DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, said also, DO NOT KILL. Now if thou commit NO ADULTERY, yet if thou KILL, YOU ARE BECOME A TRANSGRESSOR OF GOD'S LAW
Yep, James is pretty clear if we brake ANY of God's Law (10 commandments) then we are a TRANSGRESSOR of God's LAW and commit SIN. James quotes two of the 10 Commandments saying that if we break them we commit sin v9 that are summed up in the 2nd great commandments of LOVE to God and LOVE to our neighbour in v11. Maybe you missed that one?
ROMANS 7:7 [7], What shall we say then? is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I HAD NOT KNOWN SIN, BUT BY THE LAW: for I had not known lust, EXCEPT THE LAW HAD SAID YOU SHALL NOT COVET.
Well here we have Paul in agreement with James and John also telling us that he did not know what sin was without God's 10 Commandments. SIN is breaking God's commandments and Paul uses the 10th commandment as an example of breaking any of God's LAW (10 commandments) = SIN (
Exodus 20:17)
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1 JOHN 3:4 [4] Whosoever commits SIN transgresses also the law: for SIN is the transgression of the law.
John is saying the same thing as James and Paul and states that if we TRANSGRESS God's LAW then we commit SIN because SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF GOD'S LAW. So it is very clear that SIN is breaking ANY of God's LAW (10 commandments). We will look at the chapter context John uses v15 of MURDER as an example of sin which is God's 6th Command of the 10.
Sin is indeed defined in God's WORD as breaking any of the 10 Commandments in both the OLD and NEW TESTAMENT scriptures.
CONCLUSION; SO if the CONTEXT of
1 JOHN 2:3-4 is SIN and SIN is breaking any one of God's 10 commandments than the commandment that
1 JOHN 2:3-4 is referring to is God's eternal LAW, the 10 commandments that give us a KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is.
Which says nothing about the sabbath. Sorry.
Actually God's 10 Commandments have everything to do with the SABBATH as God's 4th Commandment is to REMEMBER the SABBATH DAY to keep it HOLY.
No sir, it doesn't. You mean we're obligated to the law with this verse. Paul says - "we are now delivered from the law..." That is a far cry from obligation to the law. Paul specifically quotes the 10th in the verse following the quote.
Sorry brother it does not say that at all unless you believe Paul is contradicting himself. You do not believe that do you brother?
ROMANS 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith?
God forbid: yes,
we establish the law. Romans 7:7 is showing the purpose of God's law is to give us a knowledge of sin.
Has nothing to do with the law.
Actually it has everything to do with God's LAW. JAMES 2:8-11 is quoting God's 10 Commandments.
Verse 18 tells us we're not under the law if we are led by the Spirit. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Indeed all those who have faith are not under the condemnation of God's LAW once we have been forgiven thorugh faith to walk in God's Spirit *ROMANS 8:1-4; ROMANS 3:19-20. None have God's Spirit however while knowingly breaking any of God's commandments *ACTS 2:38.
This is only sent with all respect and love brother. It seems God's WORD disagrees with you.
May God help you as you seek him through his Word.
