Is repentance a "one time act" or is it, or should it be "a way of life" (here)...?

[Neogaia777]

Sorry, it was the one before #184. I think I may have answered these questions there.

You PMed me it, I'm going over it...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

Did Jesus "sin" when he turned over the tables of the money changers? We are not emotionless robots, but there is a difference between selfish tantrums, and righteous indignation. Paul said to "be angry, and sin not." I sent you my testimony, and if you still think I'm a phoney, that's okay. Your opinion of me doesn't change God's opinion, and that is who I have to please. I just live my life with a clear conscience. That is what Paul did, and what John taught. 1 Timothy 3:9; 2 Timothy 1:3; 1 John 3:21-23.

No need to get defensive, I was only just asking some honest questions that I have, sheesh...

Cause I do hope to not have any more sin someday...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

Your trouble is you think perfection is impossible.

Yes, that is my problem, (this side of reality) I will admit...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

Yes, that is my problem, (this side of reality) I will admit...

God Bless!

But, I also think God is (a) God of the impossible, and even likes and greatly enjoys specializing in the impossible...

And in that I do find some glimmer of hope...

God Bless!

 

[1stcenturylady]

@1stcenturylady going over your testimony now...

I don't think I ever "willfully sin" anymore now either, but I still sin and don't consider myself "sinless"...? I sometimes do what I hate but/and always "against my will" I feel...

The good that I want and feel compelled to do, I do not always do either, but the bad that I hate, I sometimes do do, but feel it is against my will, cause it's not what I really want to do, not in my heart, but still sometimes do it sometimes still...

So, what does that mean...? (for me)...?

God Bless!

You are learning that having a clear conscience means not doing what you hate. The peace of God is precious, and conviction is painful. Which "P" do you really want? But while you are willfully sinning, you will need to repent. Those sins are not covered as unintentional trespasses are while walking in the Spirit, nor automatically by our Advocate. Our Advocate does not advocate for willful sins. In James we learn that when temptations come our way, He ALWAYS gives a way of escape. Resist the devil and he will flee.

 

[Neogaia777]

Did Jesus "sin" when he turned over the tables of the money changers? We are not emotionless robots, but there is a difference between selfish tantrums, and righteous indignation. Paul said to "be angry, and sin not." I sent you my testimony, and if you still think I'm a phoney, that's okay. Your opinion of me doesn't change God's opinion, and that is who I have to please. I just live my life with a clear conscience. That is what Paul did, and what John taught. 1 Timothy 3:9; 2 Timothy 1:3; 1 John 3:21-23.

I was hoping that maybe you could show me maybe, and/or tell me how to be sinless, and sinlessly perfect, is all...?

God Bless!

 

[1stcenturylady]

Yes, that is my problem, (this side of reality) I will admit...

God Bless!

"God is not a man that He should lie."

 

[Neogaia777]

You are learning that having a clear conscience means not doing what you hate. The peace of God is precious, and conviction is painful. Which "P" do you really want? But while you are willfully sinning, you will need to repent. Those sins are not covered as unintentional trespasses are while walking in the Spirit, nor automatically by our Advocate. Our Advocate does not advocate for willful sins. In James we learn that when temptations come our way, He ALWAYS gives a way of escape. Resist the devil and he will flee.

That's just it, I do sin sometimes, but I wouldn't call it "willfully"...?

Even my sins, even my darkness (mostly past tense now) was "wrought in and with the will of God", and may still be that way right now...

(John 3:21) "But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, (he is honest) that (even) his (wicked, evil and/or sinful) deeds (or works) may be made manifest, (known) that they (even his darkness or sin or unrighteousness) are (all done and) wrought in (the will of) God."

(God worked with it in that person anyway, IOW's, regardless) (and even has a very divine reason and divine purpose and point to even that as well) (hence wrought in the will of God)... (not that God wills evil or for any to be evil, they just "are" so he works with it/that, and makes it (all) good, both in and by, the end)... That has been my experience in my life anyway...

Part of the basis for judgement BTW (John 3:19-21)... The ones that hate the darkness love the light, even if it exposes them... For the light will expose you... And we should not hate it (for that)... The one he calls "evil" are the ones who will not come to the light, so as to exposed by the light... The ones who love darkness are the one who hate the light that exposes them...

I hate the darkness BTW... But is some small part of me still dark, yes, still some small part of me, but, it is getting smaller and becoming less and less though day by day...

God Bless!

 

[1stcenturylady]

I was hoping that maybe you could show me maybe, and/or tell me how to be sinless, and sinlessly perfect, is all...?

God Bless!

It is NOT by knowing the law - the difference between right and wrong. That is what Romans 7 is all about - the struggle of knowing the law, but still having the old sinful nature. But the old sinful nature is killed and replaced with a new nature. That is what is called being born again. It is not positional, but literal. It is God in you. Have you ever experienced the infilling of the Holy Spirit? There are many "Christians" who still have no power over sin, like I was for the first 30 years of going to church, unsaved. The evidence of the Spirit is power over sin. He works through our conscience. It is no longer just a normal conscience, but super-sensitized. We love what God loves, and hate what God hates. Our choices become easy - they are black and white, and really no choice at all. As Augustine said, we do what we like. He meant we do what we love - righteousness.

I liken it to abusing animals. I could no more hurt an animal ONCE, let alone practice abusing animals. Others could say the same of a child. I have no children, but am a volunteer of our wildlife rehabilitation center, traveling many miles around the state to pick up an injured or baby wild animal or bird. Plus, I have raccoons I feed nightly. On the dark side, there are bullies who love watching dog fights, trophy killing, or are pedophiles and wife beaters. I can't relate to them at all, they have hearts of stone. But they are doing what they love, perverted as it is. I hate even killing an insect. I've never deliberately killed a spider until this year. I found a brown recluse in my living room and decided I needed to kill it. I cried for an hour...

 

[1stcenturylady]

That's just it, I do sin sometimes, but I wouldn't call it "willfully"...?

Even my sins, even my darkness was "wrought in and with the will of God", and may still be that way right now...

(John 3:21) "But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, (he is honest) that (even) his (wicked, evil and/or sinful) deeds (or works) may be made manifest, (known) that they (even his darkness or sin or unrighteousness) are (all done and) wrought in (the will of) God."

(God worked with it in that person anyway, IOW's, regardless) (and even has a very divine reason and divine purpose and point to even that as well) (hence wrought in the will of God)... (not that God wills evil or for any to be evil, they just "are" so he works with it/that, and makes it (all) good, both in and by, the end)... That has been my experience in my life anyway...

Part of the basis for judgement BTW (John 3:19-21)... The ones that hate the darkness love the light, even if it exposes them... For the light will expose you... And we should not hate it (for that)... The one he calls "evil" are the ones who will not come to the light, so as to exposed by the light... The ones who love darkness are the one who hate the light that exposes them...

I hate the darkness BTW... But is some small part of me still dark, yes, still some small part of me, but, it is getting smaller and becoming less and less though day by day...

God Bless!

I see John 3:21 this way - "21 But those doing right come gladly to the Light to let everyone see that they are doing what God wants them to.”

 

[ToBeLoved]

It is NOT by knowing the law - the difference between right and wrong. That is what Romans 7 is all about - the struggle of knowing the law, but still having the old sinful nature. But the old sinful nature is killed and replaced with a new nature. That is what is called being born again. It is not positional, but literal. It is God in you. Have you ever experienced the infilling of the Holy Spirit? There are many "Christians" who still have no power over sin, like I was for the first 30 years of going to church, unsaved. The evidence of the Spirit is power over sin. He works through our conscience. It is no longer just a normal conscience, but super-sensitized. We love what God loves, and hate what God hates. Our choices become easy - they are black and white, and really no choice at all. As Augustine said, we do what we like. He meant we do what we love - righteousness.

I liken it to abusing animals. I could no more hurt an animal ONCE, let alone practice abusing animals. Others could say the same of a child. I have no children, but am a volunteer of our wildlife rehabilitation center, traveling many miles around the state to pick up an injured or baby wild animal or bird. Plus, I have raccoons I feed nightly. On the dark side, there are bullies who love watching dog fights, trophy killing, or are pedophiles and wife beaters. I can't relate to them at all, they have hearts of stone. But they are doing what they love, perverted as it is. I hate even killing an insect. I've never deliberately killed a spider until this year. I found a brown recluse in my living room and decided I needed to kill it. I cried for an hour...

I am an insect saver too!

I walk them downstairs and put them in the grass. Even the ugly, creepy looking ones.

 

[1stcenturylady]

I am an insect saver too!

I walk them downstairs and put them in the grass. Even the ugly, creepy looking ones.

I knew there was something I love about you, sis! My cats liked to bring me presents. Snakes! I love them, and pick them up just like my mom taught me.

 

[1stcenturylady]

Good Night all!

 

[Neogaia777]

It is NOT by knowing the law - the difference between right and wrong. That is what Romans 7 is all about - the struggle of knowing the law, but still having the old sinful nature. But the old sinful nature is killed and replaced with a new nature. That is what is called being born again. It is not positional, but literal. It is God in you. Have you ever experienced the infilling of the Holy Spirit? There are many "Christians" who still have no power over sin, like I was for the first 30 years of going to church, unsaved. The evidence of the Spirit is power over sin. He works through our conscience. It is no longer just a normal conscience, but super-sensitized. We love what God loves, and hate what God hates. Our choices become easy - they are black and white, and really no choice at all. As Augustine said, we do what we like. He meant we do what we love - righteousness.

I liken it to abusing animals. I could no more hurt an animal ONCE, let alone practice abusing animals. Others could say the same of a child. I have no children, but am a volunteer of our wildlife rehabilitation center, traveling many miles around the state to pick up an injured or baby wild animal or bird. Plus, I have raccoons I feed nightly. On the dark side, there are bullies who love watching dog fights, trophy killing, or are pedophiles and wife beaters. I can't relate to them at all, they have hearts of stone. But they are doing what they love, perverted as it is. I hate even killing an insect. I've never deliberately killed a spider until this year. I found a brown recluse in my living room and decided I needed to kill it. I cried for an hour...

That last part was funny, but only because I can relate a lot...

I agree with what you have said, it's just that, you said it did not happen for you for thirty years, so, did you have the Spirit before that time...? Because I think God's Spirit works and operates in a sinner, while they are still a sinner to, and with the goal and aim of "working sin out of them over time" and with (a) (or involving a) "process"... at least that has been in the past, and is still my experience sometimes now, and I know I have God's Spirit in me and working through me and with me... Like I posted earlier that much is undeniable to me...

And many things can be black and white, and in fact, much of it is... But, there are still "some things" you might be tested with sometimes, every once in awhile, that are not so "clear cut" and/or black and white all the time, although these times are kind of rare and few and far between in "most peoples" lives anyway...

Anyway,

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

Good Night all!

Good night!

God Bless!

 

[1stcenturylady]

I am an insect saver too!

I walk them downstairs and put them in the grass. Even the ugly, creepy looking ones.

One more thing. I remember when I worked at Paramount Studios and I heard all the girls squealing in the accounting department down the hall. Then I heard one of them say, "Oh, go show Linda, she'll scream." It was a baby alligator. I screamed instead, "Oh let me hold him!" I then brought it into my bosses office. He jumped up and climbed on top of his credenza behind his desk!

 

[Neogaia777]

That's just it, I do sin sometimes, but I wouldn't call it "willfully"...?

Even my sins, even my darkness (mostly past tense now) was "wrought in and with the will of God", and may still be that way right now...

(John 3:21) "But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, (he is honest) that (even) his (wicked, evil and/or sinful) deeds (or works) may be made manifest, (known) that they (even his darkness or sin or unrighteousness) are (all done and) wrought in (the will of) God."

(God worked with it in that person anyway, IOW's, regardless) (and even has a very divine reason and divine purpose and point to even that as well) (hence wrought in the will of God)... (not that God wills evil or for any to be evil, they just "are" so he works with it/that, and makes it (all) good, both in and by, the end)... That has been my experience in my life anyway...

Part of the basis for judgement BTW (John 3:19-21)... The ones that hate the darkness love the light, even if it exposes them... For the light will expose you... And we should not hate it (for that)... The one he calls "evil" are the ones who will not come to the light, so as to exposed by the light... The ones who love darkness are the one who hate the light that exposes them...

I hate the darkness BTW... But is some small part of me still dark, yes, still some small part of me, but, it is getting smaller and becoming less and less though day by day...

God Bless!

Who can know or fully understand God's mysterious and glorious ways!

The one who brings about all and the greatest good out of all bad, and all light from or out of even the deepest darkest darkness...

Glory be to (our) God!, King of Eternity, Blessed be your name forever!

God Bless!

 

[1stcenturylady]

That last part was funny, but only because I can relate a lot...

I agree with what you have said, it's just that, you said it did not happen for you for thirty years, so, did you have the Spirit before that time...? Because I think God's Spirit works and operates in a sinner, while they are still a sinner to, and with the goal and aim of "working sin out of them over time" and with (a) (or involving a) "process"... at least that has been in the past, and is still my experience sometimes now, and I know I have God's Spirit in me and working through me and with me... Like I posted earlier that much is undeniable to me...

And many things can be black and white, and in fact, much of it is... But, there are still "some things" you might be tested with sometimes, every once in awhile, that are not so "clear cut" and/or black and white all the time, although these times are kind of rare and few and far between in "most peoples" lives anyway...

Anyway,

God Bless!

There is the "drawing" of the Spirit, which the Spirit does to all people. But, not until He actually indwells you, are you born again. So, no, I wasn't saved for the first 30 years.

What I see in the drawing, is not getting sin out of you, or "working sin out of them over time" but, convicting you how helpless you are. It is like AA. You first have to admit you are an alcoholic, or whatever the addiction. As in my testimony, I tried breaking up with the love of my life, but couldn't. I loved him too much. I was helpless. I asked God to do it for me, in spite of my weakness. And He did. And it is still not "working sin out of them over time", but instant. Being crucified, and resurrected with POWER.

 

[1stcenturylady]

Off to bed I go...

 

[Neogaia777]

There is the "drawing" of the Spirit, which the Spirit does to all people. But, not until He actually indwells you, are you born again. So, no, I wasn't saved for the first 30 years.

What I see in the drawing, is not getting sin out of you, or "working sin out of them over time" but, convicting you how helpless you are. It is like AA. You first have to admit you are an alcoholic, or whatever the addiction. As in my testimony, I tried breaking up with the love of my life, but couldn't. I loved him too much. I was helpless. I asked God to do it for me, in spite of my weakness. And He did. And it is still not "working sin out of them over time", but instant. Being crucified, and resurrected with POWER.

Do you think every person's experience has to be the same as your experience...?

And if it's not, they do not have the Holy Spirit in them, or working inside of them and out through them, ect...?

Is God really so "limited"...?

God Bless!