The question cessationists must answer.

[YeshuaFan]

What verse shows they did not..?
Quit the sideshow of ambiguity.

You cannot argue from silence though, as we need to have those times where the scriptures show to us demon possessed Christians!

 

[YeshuaFan]

This is true.. So when you dont tolerate something
You drive it out.

He will not allow them to come in!

 

[YeshuaFan]

You just don't know, and you are talking in theory, but in practice, christians can have spirits that need to be casted out...

You mean that we cannot use scriptures themselves to prove that, but rely upon our experiences instead?

 

[Alithis]

IF there are any healings/miracle being done today, its the Lord doing them diretly, and not thru anyone gifted by Him to do them, and they would be in the distinct minority, as a majority of the time there will not be the signs and wonders done that as being the normal way for today!

Again..that is your opinion .
It is based upon unbelief.
And thats why you dont see it happen .
I see it happen weekly (and i don't attend buildings one day a week)

You have NO scriptural basis for this unbelieving stance ..just ambiguity and opinion.

 

[NBB]

You mean that we cannot use scriptures themselves to prove that, but rely upon our experiences instead?

Yes there is a lot, that we can experience, that is not against the bible but neither explicitly said either.

 

[YeshuaFan]

More ambiguity..
Let me remind of something Jesus said
Directly..

And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and NOTHING shall be impossible unto you...

Well .there we have it .
NOTHING

Not tongues not healing not driving out.
devils.
NOTHING ... One should think through the implications of thier spouted opinions.
For in those opinions people are implying the words of the Lord JESUS to be false.

Ya all need to repent of doing that

You MUST balamce that with what John stated, as he said to us if we pray anything in the will of God, than we can believe Him to do that in our lives, but many of you here seem to be assuming that it is the will of God to have every believer always healthy and prosperous!

 

[Alithis]

You just don't know, and you are talking in theory, but in practice, christians can have spirits that need to be casted out...

Nbb you keep missing the point.
The flesh is corrupted .
Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.
Thus it is not christians OR non Christians who can have devils but human bodies.
And they get in by deception ,peoples unbelief sin or faith in their own opnions

 

[YeshuaFan]

Again..that is your opinion .
It is based upon unbelief.
And thats why you dont see it happen .
I see it happen weekly (and i don't attend buildings one day a week)

You have NO scriptural basis for this unbelieving stance ..just ambiguity and opinion.

God is MUCH more interested in my maturing and conforming into the image of Jesus than my ease comfort and pleasure. All of His Apostles save John died for Him as martyrs of the faith, many of them suffering and ill treated, were they lacking faith for the abundant life?

 

[YeshuaFan]

Yes there is a lot, that we can experience, that is not against the bible but neither explicitly said either.

Unless one can prove and confirm from the scriptures any theology, it is a bad one!

 

[W2L]

Again..that is your opinion .
It is based upon unbelief.
And thats why you dont see it happen .
I see it happen weekly (and i don't attend buildings one day a week)

You have NO scriptural basis for this unbelieving stance ..just ambiguity and opinion.

You boasted of your experiences to prove that God still gifts the church. But when i referred to my experience of not seeing any gifted teachers or apostles today, you said i was childish and you accused my posts of stupidity. Look, i dont do miracles, but by Gods grace i have His Spirit. I have joy and peace, something i gained through experience and perseverance.. The more you call me childish or stupid the more im blessed. basically im happy, praise the Lord. Leap for joy.

 

[YeshuaFan]

Nbb you keep missing the point.
The flesh is corrupted .
Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.
Thus it is not christians OR non Christians who can have devils but human bodies.
And they get in by deception ,peoples unbelief sin or faith in their own opnions

Satan has NO claim to one who is washed by the blood of the Lamb, and we listen to his lies when we refuse to walk in the Holy Spirit!

 

[NBB]

Nbb you keep missing the point.
The flesh is corrupted .
Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.
Thus it is not christians OR non Christians who can have devils but human bodies.
And they get in by deception ,peoples unbelief sin or faith in their own opnions

I don't say otherwise, human bodies can be categorized as christians or non christians as well, all i say is that they can be there i don't know if in your body or where, but there causing trouble to non christians, and christians as well. And they just don't go away because you convert, specially from your past, they don't enter as easily in christians if you live your christian life well, but from your past...

 

[YeshuaFan]

You boasted of your experiences to prove that God still gifts the church. But when i referred to my experience of not seeing any gifted teachers or apostles today, you said i was childish and you accused my posts of stupidity. Look, i dont do miracles, but by Gods grace i have His Spirit. I have joy and peace, something i gained through experience and perseverance.. The more you call me childish or stupid the more im blessed. basically im happy, praise the Lord. Leap for joy.

Paul learned to be content, regardless if he was experiencing the best of times, or the worst of times, as he still kept the joy of the Lord and His presence with Him!

 

[NBB]

Unless one can prove and confirm from the scriptures any theology, it is a bad one!

Oh, you think everything is in the bible? no just no, sometimes you need to learn in your christian life another way.

The bible can either say nothing, as what you learn not be against it either, what you do with that? if it is something from God then is ok.

 

[W2L]

Paul learned to be content, regardless if he was experiencing the best of times, or the worst of times, as he still kept the joy of the Lord and His presence with Him!

Amen.

 

[YeshuaFan]

I don't say otherwise, human bodies can be categorized as christians or non christians as well, all i say is that they can be there i don't know if in your body or where, but there causing trouble to non christians, and christians as well. And they just don't go away because you convert, specially from your past, they don't enter as easily in christians if you live your christian life well, but from your past...

Any scriptures to support how Christians can still be possessed?

 

[YeshuaFan]

Oh, you think everything is in the bible? no just no, sometimes you need to learn in your christian life another way.

The bible can either say nothing, as what you learn not be against it either, what you do with that? if it is something from God then is ok.

Any doctrine or belief or practice not found and confirmed in the Bible is a bogus one!

 

[YeshuaFan]

Amen.

And Paul did not see health and wealth and prosperity as really being all that important in the scheme of things!

 

[NBB]

Any scriptures to support how Christians can still be possessed?

Not everything is in the bible, be reasonable.

 

[NBB]

Any doctrine or belief or practice not found and confirmed in the Bible is a bogus one!

You are not being reasonable at all, how can you say that?