ARE YOU READY FOR THE MARK OF THE BEAST?

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It will be Zion, in Isaiah 66:7-8, who will deliver her children in Revelation 12:10, as the nation which was born in a day in May 24, 1948.

My comments in parenthesis.

Isaiah 66:
7 Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child. (Jesus)

8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? (May 14, 1948) for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children (they receive the new covenant).

Revelation 12:10
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God (to the Jews), and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night (of not having receiving Jesus in the past).


The Jews, Israel, will receive Jesus as Lord and Savior after the disaster of thinking someone else is their messiah, King of Israel, during most of the first half of the 7 years.

Do you know what Judaism thinks is the new covenant in Jeremiah 31:31 ?

Hi brother Dougg,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts here but this does not answer the question asked of you which is who are God's ISRAEL in the NEW COVENANT as described in God's WORD?
 
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Hi brother Dougg,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts here but this does not answer the question asked of you which is who are God's ISRAEL in the NEW COVENANT as described in God's WORD?
LoveGodsWord,

Paul described Jews who had received Jesus as Israel who is right with God in regards to forgiveness of sin.

It does not mean that the church has become Israel, by virtue of being Christians.

The rest of Israel still has not received the new covenant. Revelation 12 is the 7 years 70th weeks, relevant to Israel. Revelation 12:6 is the first half as the two witnesses are testifying about Jesus and warning the Jews not to trust in the Antichrist as being the messiah. Which he does betray them, and shortly becomes the beast, and the image made - and the Jews begin fleeing into the wilderness, near the end of the 1260 days.

Then the war in the second heaven, at that point, when the 7th trumpet sounds in Revelation 11, and Satan and his angels cast down to earth. For the time, times, half times of the second half, Revelation 12:14.

The Jews eyes will be opened during that time of shaken of the soul, and they turn to Jesus, and receive the gospel, in Revelation 12:10.

Which Satan, angered by his kingdom cast down to earth, Babylon is fallen is fallen, persecute what ever Jews he can access, the ones who did not flee in time, and the ones in Revelation 12:17, and in Jerusalem, who Jesus will rescue in Zechariah 14 at His return.
 
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Hello and welcome brother Dougg nice to see you. I do not understand your reasoning. Why do you think ISRAEL would have to embrace the pope as KING?
I don't think Israel would ever ever embrace the pope as the King of Israel. [btw, I am not trying to exonerate the Pope from being a false prophet (not the false prophet in Revelation)]

It was my way of pointing out that the Pope cannot be the Antichrist, because he is not qualified to become the King of Israel, son of David. The Antichrist has not yet come.

The Antichrist is the another that Jesus said the Jews would accept coming in his own name; them having rejected him who came in the name of the Lord, when he was crucified. In other words, Jesus was the one God sent to be their King, but his own received him not.

John 12:
12 On the next day much people that were come to the feast, when they heard that Jesus was coming to Jerusalem,

13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord.

4 days later, Jerusalem crucified Jesus, rejecting him as their King of Israel.

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That the person is a Jew - and descended from David, later after his Antichrist, King of Israel stint ends when he reveals himself as the man of sin, and God has him killed for his audacious act of claiming to be God - and the person finds himself in hell in Isaiah 14, it says of him....

19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.


20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

Jesus is the righteous branch, descended from David and David's father Jesse. The Antichrist will also be descended from them, but he is considered an abominable branch - as he destroys his land and slays his people.


The person will have a unique heritage. He will be descended from the juilo-claudians and also be a Jew. In Judaism, for a person to be considered a Jew, their mother must be Jew.
 
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LoveGodsWord,

Since you are coming from a SDA background, the idea of the Antichrist being the illegitimate King of Israel is going to be foreign to you.

Because SDA focuses on the King of the Roman empire role of the person. And doesn't connect to "Christ the King of Israel", thinking of the promised messiah in that biblical way.

It is not unusual because Christians primarily think of the messiah as the Savior from ours sin - not as the King of Israel.

But from a biblical standpoint, "the" messiah, pertaining to the promised King of Israel, to lead the Jews and the world into the messianic age of peace and safety. And this is how the Jews, Judaism, currently sees it. They do not consider the messiah to be Savior from their sins.

SDA - views the King of the Roman empire, little horn - as the pope/office of pope.
- but misses that the Antichrist pertains to the (illegitimate) King of Israel, forthcoming. Which disqualifies the pope/office of pope from being the person.
 
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ARE YOU READY FOR THE MARK OF THE BEAST?

WHAT IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST CLICK ME?

There is a simple study from God's WORD * DANIEL AND REVELATION and history here beastsmark.com for those who may be interested in the scriptures and some more detail.

God's WORD teaches that GOD'S PEOPLE ARE IN EVERY CHURCH! Theye are all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD as much as God has revealed to them. *JOHN 10:16; ACT 17:30-31.

I would like to discuss the following scriptures here in this OP.

REVELATION 14:6-12
[6], And I saw another angel fly in midheaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and tribe, and tongue, and people,
[7], Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment has come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
[8], And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
[9], And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
[10], The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out undiluted into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
[11], And the smoke of their torment ascends up forever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receives the mark of his name.
[12], Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

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QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION (linked to scripture studies in this thread)

Q1. WHAT IS THE EVERLASTING GOSPEL? v6 linked
Q2. WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO FEAR GOD? v7 linked
Q3. HOW DO WE GIVE GLORY TO GOD? v7 linked
Q4. WHAT IS THE JUDGMENT ABOUT? v7 linked
Q5. WHO DOES BABYLON THE HARLOT WOMAN REPRESENT? v8; 17:1-5; 18:1-9
Q6. THE MARK OF THE BEAST IS OVER WHORSHIP v8-12
Q7. WHO IS GOD’S TRUE CHURCH IN GOD’S WORD? v12
Q8. WHAT DOES A BEAST OF KINGDOM REPRESENT IN DANIAL AND REVELATIONS?
Q9 WHAT ARE THE SYMBOLS AND MEANING OF MARK, SIGN AND SEAL?
Q10. WHAT IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST AND WHEN DO PEOPLE RECEIVE IT?
Q11. THE SEAL OF GOD HOW DO WE GET IT?
Q12. DID YOU KNOW THAT THE CIVIL SUNDAY LAWS HAVE ALREADY PASSED?
Q13. WHO IS THE ANTICHRIST, THE MAN OF SIN, THE BEAST AND 666?
Q14. WHO DID THE EARLY REFORMERS BELIEVE THE ANTICHRIST WAS? 1/2
Q15. WHO DID THE EARLY REFORMERS BELIEVE THE ANTICHRIST WAS? 2/2

QUESTIONS TO THINK ABOUT

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FRIENDLY CHRISTIAN DISCUSSION AND SCRIPTURE ONLY PLEASE.

God bless you as you seek him through his Word.
Why would a Christian need to be ready for the mark of the beast?
 
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Do you know who ISRAEL is under the NEW COVENANT?

NOT YET! The New Covenant has been promised but for Israel is has not been activated. For the Church (Bride of Christ), it has been activated.

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Only if they as individual accept it.

good morning 'ace of hearts', I believe this is our first conversation.
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Your right....IF any person (Jew or Gentile) believes in the Gospel of Jesus Christ, they will become part of the Church (Bride of Christ). Israel as a Nation is under the "New Covenant" as a promise but it has not been activated yet. It will be activated in Rev. Chapter 20, when Jesus frees the 'Remnant of Israel' from Petra. Here, He will instill into their Hearts directly, the New Covenant. At the same time, they will still be in mortal bodies living through the Millennium aiding Jesus Christ.

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Paul described Jews who had received Jesus as Israel who is right with God in regards to forgiveness of sin.

It does not mean that the church has become Israel, by virtue of being Christians.

Thanks Doug but what does God's WORd say? I guess this is an important question as it either supports what you have said or it does not.

Thanks for sharing brother.

God bless.
 
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LoveGodsWord,

Since you are coming from a SDA background, the idea of the Antichrist being the illegitimate King of Israel is going to be foreign to you.

Because SDA focuses on the King of the Roman empire role of the person. And doesn't connect to "Christ the King of Israel", thinking of the promised messiah in that biblical way.

Hello brother Doug, thanks for sharing your thoughts. However you have provided no scripture for this belief of yours. The scripture you have provided does not support any of the claims you are making. Did you wish to show how the scriptures support your view? At the moment I am looking at the scriptures you have provided and they do not support the interpretation you are applying to them.

It is not unusual because Christians primarily think of the messiah as the Savior from ours sin - not as the King of Israel.

But from a biblical standpoint, "the" messiah, pertaining to the promised King of Israel, to lead the Jews and the world into the messianic age of peace and safety. And this is how the Jews, Judaism, currently sees it. They do not consider the messiah to be Savior from their sins.

This is why I asked you earlier can you show who God's ISRAEL is under the NEW COVENANT. As this understanding will effect everything you are claiming here. At the moment brother you have avoided answering this question. Who are God's ISRAEL in the NEW COVENANT as described in God's WORD?

SDA - views the King of the Roman empire, little horn - as the pope/office of pope. - but misses that the Antichrist pertains to the (illegitimate) King of Israel, forthcoming. Which disqualifies the pope/office of pope from being the person.

You may be going of misinformation here brother. I do not know anyone that thinks the Pope is the king of the Roman Empire. The number of the BEAST is the number of a man and his number is 666 *REVELATION 13:18. Also, the littles Horn of DANIEL says that the little horn is different from the other kings and speaks great things against the most high God and makes war with the saints *DANIEL 7:8; 20-25. How does the Pope/office of the Roman Catholic Church disqualifiy it from being the Antichrist when according to the scriptures the Antichrist is anything that wars against God's Word?

*SCRIPTURE SUPPORT HERE CLICK ME

Thanks for sharing your thoughts brother.

God bless.
 
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Why would a Christian need to be ready for the mark of the beast?

Hello AOH nice to see you again. Great question. The reason is God has many of his people in all Churches living up to all the knowledge he has given them *JOHN 10:16. Many do not know that the BEAST and the FALSE PROPHET through the devil deceive many into receiving the MARK OF THE BEAST *REVELATION 19:20; 20:10.
 
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good morning 'ace of hearts', I believe this is our first conversation.
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Your right....IF any person (Jew or Gentile) believes in the Gospel of Jesus Christ, they will become part of the Church (Bride of Christ). Israel as a Nation is under the "New Covenant" as a promise but it has not been activated yet. It will be activated in Rev. Chapter 20, when Jesus frees the 'Remnant of Israel' from Petra. Here, He will instill into their Hearts directly, the New Covenant. At the same time, they will still be in mortal bodies living through the Millennium aiding Jesus Christ.

Blade

Hello brother Bladerunner, it seems you do not know who God's ISRAEL is in the NEW COVENANT. Who is God's ISRAEL in the NEW COVENANT? God's ISRAEL in the NEW COVENANT are all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD. Gentiles are now grafted in. If you are not a part of God's ISRAEL you have no part in the NEW COVENANT.

*SCRIPTURE SUPPORT HERE Click me.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts brother. Hope this helps.

God bless
 
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Hello brother Doug, thanks for sharing your thoughts. However you have provided no scripture for this belief of yours. The scripture you have provided does not support any of the claims you are making. Did you wish to show how the scriptures support your view? At the moment I am looking at the scriptures you have provided and they do not support the interpretation you are applying to them.
I did, but apparently, it did not registered. You can go back and read my post #403, 402, there are numerous bible passages I referred to in those posts.

And my post # 21 to you here.

MARK OF THE BEAST - REVELATION 13-14; 17; 18

This is why I asked you earlier can you show who God's ISRAEL is under the NEW COVENANT. As this understanding will effect everything you are claiming here. At the moment brother you have avoided answering this question. Who are God's ISRAEL in the NEW COVENANT as described in God's WORD?

You are over leveraging what Paul said regarding that some of the Jews were right with God and some were not - into a doctrine. God's Israel, Israel of God, is not a common phrase in the bible.

I can show you 100% that the church is not Israel. Nor has replaced Israel. Jesus Himself speaking in the verses.....

In Ezekiel 39, verses 17-20 is the Armageddon feast on the slain bodies of them who attempt to make war on Jesus. Those verses correspond to Revelation 19:17-18.

In verse 21, Jesus Himself is speaking having returned to earth. He recounts in the following verses of why Israel went into diaspora among the nation - which it can't be talking about the church - because they was dispersed among the nations because they transgressed against Him.

28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.

29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.

Now who is verse 29 talking about - the church, or the Israel of God of Jewish believers in Jesus at present? None of them - because it is yet fulfilled. That's who Israel is - still in unbelief at present. But who will embrace the new covenant during the great tribulation.
 
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How does the Pope/office of the Roman Catholic Church disqualifiy it from being the Antichrist when according to the scriptures the Antichrist is anything that wars against God's Word?
That's where you are coming up with a definition - instead of realizing it is talking about the characteristics of the coming person - the Antichrist, being manifest in certain behavior.

It is one particular individual person, who will be anointed the (illegitimate) King of Israel instead of the rightful King of Israel - Jesus. It is that one person who will find himself in hell, in Isaiah 14:18-19, likened as an abominable branch, after claiming to be God.

The Pope cannot become the King of Israel, messiah.

The reformers thinking on the Pope/office of pope being the Antichrist or False Prophet or Beast or Little horn - sounds like it has merit. But when a person gets into learning about what the messiah, the Christ, is really about - it is an impossible theory.

I have thought about the Pope, the Mahdi, Hitler cloned - all kind of theories over 47 years of eschatology study - but those paths to continue is a waste of time.

The person will be a Jew, his religion Judaism, he will be into Kabbalah, he will come out of Europe, and be the leader of Europe, and will be perceived by Israel to be the messiah following Gog/Magog - right after Gog/Magog is a 100% guarantee.
 
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Hello brother Dougg, nice to see you and thanks for your thought. Some comments for your consideration below.

I did, but apparently, it did not registered. You can go back and read my post #403, 402, there are numerous bible passages I referred to in those posts. And my post # 21 to you here. MARK OF THE BEAST - REVELATION 13-14; 17; 18

Brother thanks for pointing me in that direction. I went back to check this post in case I missed something there. However, what you have posted in post # 21; 402 and 403. None of these posts support your view that the Antichrist is the king of Israel or has anyone said that the Pope would be the king of ISRAEL. This is why I have been asking if you know who God's ISRAEL is in the NEW COVENANT?

You are over leveraging what Paul said regarding that some of the Jews were right with God and some were not - into a doctrine. God's Israel, Israel of God, is not a common phrase in the bible.

I can show you 100% that the church is not Israel. Nor has replaced Israel. Jesus Himself speaking in the verses.....

In Ezekiel 39, verses 17-20 is the Armageddon feast on the slain bodies of them who attempt to make war on Jesus. Those verses correspond to Revelation 19:17-18.

In verse 21, Jesus Himself is speaking having returned to earth. He recounts in the following verses of why Israel went into diaspora among the nation - which it can't be talking about the church - because they was dispersed among the nations because they transgressed against Him.

28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.

29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.

Now who is verse 29 talking about - the church, or the Israel of God of Jewish believers in Jesus at present? None of them - because it is yet fulfilled. That's who Israel is - still in unbelief at present. But who will embrace the new covenant during the great tribulation.

Brother I have had a look at the scriptures you have provided here. None of the scriptures you have provided support your view that ISRAEL in the new COVENANT is the nation of ISRAEL. Have you considered the following scriptures which show that God's people in the NEW COVENANT are all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD?

Let's look at the scriptures...

WHO IS GOD'S ISRAEL UNDER THE NEW COVENANT?

The name "Israel" is only a name given by God himself to represent his people. The origin of the name "Israel" come from Genesis 32:28 where Jacob wrestled with the Angel and prevailed ...for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. Its meaning is his posterity will rule as God. Jacob had 12 sons representing the 12 tribes of Israel.

ISRAEL (God’s new name given to Jacob) had 12 sons which make up the 12 tribes of ISRAEL

GENESIS 35:22-26 [22], ... Now the sons of Jacob were twelve: [23], The sons of Leah; Reuben, Jacob's firstborn, and Simeon, and Levi, and Judah, and Issachar, and Zebulun: [24], The sons of Rachel; Joseph, and Benjamin: [25], And the sons of Bilhah, Rachel's handmaid; Dan, and Naphtali: [26], And the sons of Zilpah, Leah's handmaid; Gad, and Asher: these are the sons of Jacob, who were born to him in Paddanaram.

God’s promise of the NEW COVENANT is to ISRAEL…

JEREMIAH 31:31-34 [31], Behold, the days come, says the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: [32], Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; my covenant which they broke, although I was a husband unto them, says the LORD: [33], But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, says the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. [34], And they shall teach no more every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, says the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

144, 000 Come out of the 12 tribes of ISRAEL…

REVELATION 7:3-8 [3], Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads. [4], And I heard the number of them who were sealed: and there were sealed a hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. [5], Of the tribe of Judah were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand. [6], Of the tribe of Asher were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Naphtali were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasseh were sealed twelve thousand. [7], Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand. [8], Of the tribe of Zebulun were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.

Now we have shown the origin of the name ISRAEL let's look at the scripture in detail in the NEW TESTAMENT scripture to see who God's ISRAEL is...

EPHESIANS 2:11-13 [11], Why remember, that you being in TIME PAST Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

[12], That AT THAT TIME [in the Past] YOU WERE WITHOUT CHRIST, BEING ALIENS FROM THE COMMONWEALTH OF ISRAEL, STRANGERS FROM THE COVENANT OF PROMISE, HAVING NO HOPE, AND WITHOUT GOD IN THE WORLD: [13], BUT NOW IN CHRIST JESUS, YOU WHO WERE FAR OFF ARE MADE NEAR BY THE BLOOD OF CHRIST.

GALATIANS 3:28-29 [28], THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: FOR YOU ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS AND IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN YOU ARE ABRAHAM'S SEED FOR YOU ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS [29], and IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN ARE YOU ABRAHAM'S SEED, AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE.

God's true ISRAEL in the NEW COVENANT are not by name only but all those in Christ. Those of the FLESH (sinful human nature) are not Abrahams seed but those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God in Christ are God's ISRAEL...

ROMANS 9:6-8 [6], FOR THEY ARE NOT ALL ISRAEL WHICH ARE OF ISRAEL,: [7], NEITHER, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SEED OF ABRAHAM, ARE THEY ALL CHILDREN: but in Isaac shall thy seed be called <Christ> [8], That is, THEY WHICH ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE FLESH, THESE ARE NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD: BUT THE CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE <those who believe> ARE COUNTED FOR THE SEED.

God's ISRAEL are all those in CHRIST that have been given a NEW HEART according to the NEW COVENANT promise...

ROMANS 2:28-29 [28], FOR HE IS NOT A JEW WHICH IS ONE OUTWARDLY; NEITHER IS THAT CIRCUMCISION, WHICH IS OUTWARDS IN THE FLESH: [29], BUT HE IS A JEW WHICH IS ONE INWARDLY; and CIRCUMCISION IS OF THE HEART, IN THE SPIRIT, AND NOT IN THE LETTER; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

In the NEW COVENANT all those in Christ are are God's ISRAEL...

COLOSSIANS 3:11 [11], WHERE THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: BUT CHRIST IS ALL IN ALL.

ROMANS 10:11-13 [11], For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. [12], FOR THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JEW OR GREEK: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. [13], FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED.

The New Covenant is for God's Israel...

EZEKIEL 36:26-27 [26], A NEW HEART WILL I GIVE YOU, AND A NEW SPIRIT WILL I PUT WITHIN YOU; AND I WILL TAKE AWAY THE STONY HEART OUT OF YOUR FLESH, AND GIVE YOU A HEART OF FLESH. [27], AND I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT WITHIN YOU, AND CAUSE YOU TO WALK IN MY STATUTES AND YOU SHALL KEEP MY JUDGEMENTS AND DO THEM.

and again...

JEREMIAH 31:33-34 [33], BUT THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL; After those days, says the LORD, I WILL PUT MY LAW IN THEIR INWARD PARTS,AND WRITE IT IN THEIR HEARTS; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. [34], And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, says the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Paul proclaims it here...

HEBREWS 8:10-12 [10], BUT THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL; After those days, says the LORD, I WILL PUT MY LAW IN THEIR INWARD PARTS, AND WRITE IT IN THEIR HEARTS; and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: [11], And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. [12], For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

The NEW COVENANT is for GOD'S ISRAEL which represent those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God’s WORD.

If you are not part of GOD'S ISRAEL then you are not a part of the NEW COVENANT (Hebrews 8:10-12).

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CONCLUSION: God's ISRAEL is the name given by God to all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. GENTILES are now grafted in *ROMANS 11:13-27. If you are not a part of the God's ISRAEL then you have no part in the NEW COVENANT. GOD'S ISRAEL ARE ALL THOSE WHO BELIEVE AND FOLLOW GOD'S WORD (The Church)

Hope this helps brother.
 
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None of these posts support your view that the Antichrist is the king of Israel or has anyone said that the Pope would be the king of ISRAEL
All of those post support my view that the Antichrist will be the (illegimate) King of Israel.


The prefix "Anti" means "instead of" and/or "against"

Christ means means anointed when traced back to the Hebrew equivalence. "The" Christ means "The King of Israel" descended from King David.

So take the prefix Anti and put it in front of the word Christ. That is what Antichrist means... instead of and against - Jesus, the rightful King of Israel, son of David.
 
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Hello brother Dougg, some more comments for your consideration

That's where you are coming up with a definition - instead of realizing it is talking about the characteristics of the coming person - the Antichrist, being manifest in certain behavior.

Not at all brother. I believe God's WORD provides the definitions or what that Antichrist is and interprets itself. The antichrist according to God's WORD is anything or anyone that opposes God's WORD.

1 JOHN 2:18 Little children, it is the last hour: and as ye heard that antichrist cometh, even now have there arisen many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last hour.

*Detailed scriptures support is provided here click me.

It is one particular individual person, who will be anointed the (illegitimate) King of Israel instead of the rightful King of Israel - Jesus. It is that one person who will find himself in hell, in Isaiah 14:18-19, likened as an abominable branch, after claiming to be God. The Pope cannot become the King of Israel, messiah.

Brother, I do not understand this post of yours. How do you come up with the interpretation of the scriptures that that Antichrist is an illegitamate king of ISRAEL? You still have not defined who ISRAEL is in the NEW COVENANT. Who says the pope has to become the King of ISRAEL? I have never heard of such things before.

The reformers thinking on the Pope/office of pope being the Antichrist or False Prophet or Beast or Little horn - sounds like it has merit.

Indeed it does because it uses the proppetic rules of interpretation of letting the scriptures interpret themselves and is based on the scriptures from the two great witnesses from the OLD and NEW TESTAMENT.

2 PETER 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of scripture is of private interpretation.

But when a person gets into learning about what the messiah, the Christ, is really about - it is an impossible theory.

It is not a theory brother. It is God's WORD and we should believe and follow it. The Messaiah (JESUS) is king and he is the Word of God *JOHN 1:1-4; 14. Anything that is against God's WORD is antichrist. This is what the early reformers believed and why they taught the Popes office and the teachings (not the people; God has his people also in this Church) were the Antichrist (references here; Part 1; Part 2 click me)

I have thought about the Pope, the Mahdi, Hitler cloned - all kind of theories over 47 years of eschatology study - but those paths to continue is a waste of time. The person will be a Jew, his religion Judaism, he will be into Kabbalah, he will come out of Europe, and be the leader of Europe, and will be perceived by Israel to be the messiah following Gog/Magog - right after Gog/Magog is a 100% guarantee.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts here brother but I do not see any biblical support for the teaching you are suggesting that the Antichrist will be a king of the Jews outside of the Roman Catholic Church. Perhaps it may be good to revisit your definition of who God's ISRAEL are under the new COVENANT?

May God bless you as you seek him through his Word.
 
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Brother I have had a look at the scriptures you have provided here. None of the scriptures you have provided support your view that ISRAEL in the new COVENANT is the nation of ISRAEL. Have you considered the following scriptures which show that God's people in the NEW COVENANT are all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD?
Israel in end times bible prophecy is not in the new covenant - yet.
 
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Israel in end times bible prophecy is not in the new covenant - yet.

Of course it is. Please look at all the scriptures provided in post # 415 linked click me which are mostly NEW COVENANT scriptures defining who God's ISRAEL is. It seems you have missed this post or ignored it?

God bless.
 
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All of those post support my view that the Antichrist will be the (illegimate) King of Israel.


The prefix "Anti" means "instead of" and/or "against"

Christ means means anointed when traced back to the Hebrew equivalence. "The" Christ means "The King of Israel" descended from King David.

So take the prefix Anti and put it in front of the word Christ. That is what Antichrist means... instead of and against - Jesus, the rightful King of Israel, son of David.

Hello brother Dougg. I believe God's WORD provides the definitions or what that Antichrist is and interprets itself. The antichrist according to God's WORD is anything or anyone that opposes God's WORD and there are many forms of Antichrist.

1 JOHN 2:18 Little children, it is the last hour: and as ye heard that antichrist cometh, even now have there arisen many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last hour.

*Detailed scriptures support is provided here on the ANTICHRIST click me.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts brother however we may need to agree to disagree on this one. I hope you can look at the scriptures provided here.

May God bless you as you seek him through his Word.
 
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