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Trump most honest President in modern history

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The biggest reason I see for people claiming he's a liar is

Because he lies. Like all the time. Pathologically. He lies when there isn't even anything to be gained by lying.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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problem is not with me - look again

Then pick what you think is the most egregious misrepresentation in that list, and we'll take a look at it. Which one would you like?
 
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What makes you think this article is any more truthful/factual than the last one??
I never go by one article, or always agree with an article totally.

My view of Trump is from his own words, and his own behavior, and his behavior over the decades.
 
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The man is an enigma to me. I do agree that he lies. But I also would agree that he's not prone to policy based lies - he actually does seem to keep campaign promises or has tried. And people are far more angry about him about this anything... which seals the deal further to me. They wouldn't be so mad if he wasn't doing what he said he'd do.
 
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Then pick what you think is the most egregious misrepresentation in that list, and we'll take a look at it. Which one would you like?
the whole pack of them are unproven - only allegations - the mountain of allegations does not miraculously turn into even one proven fact

what is that saying about tell a lie often enough and people will start to believe it? - well the tangibles trump has accomplished cause more and more people to tune out the unproven allegations

people honestly don't have any interest in hearing any more stories - msm cried wolf too often - people just don't buy it anymore - or if they think it might be true to some degree they don't care - they care about the tangibles
 
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The man is an enigma to me.

But I also would agree that he's not prone to policy based lies - he actually does seem to keep campaign promises or has tried. And people are far more angry about him about this anything... which seals the deal further to me. They wouldn't be so mad if he wasn't doing what he said he'd do.
very interesting pov - i would have to agree with what you are saying - makes sense
 
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Because he lies. Like all the time. Pathologically. He lies when there isn't even anything to be gained by lying.

-CryptoLutheran
he doesn't - it only gets reported that way - the liars are the storytellers who want ratings and revenue and don't care how they get it - and if they get caught they just say oops - and go onto the next story
 
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Barbarian suggests:
Then pick what you think is the most egregious misrepresentation in that list, and we'll take a look at it. Which one would you like?

the whole pack of them are unproven

No one else has been able to refute any of them, either. If you do find one that's false, just let me know, and we'll talk about it. [/QUOTE]
 
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Barbarian suggests:
Then pick what you think is the most egregious misrepresentation in that list, and we'll take a look at it. Which one would you like?



No one else has been able to refute any of them, either. If you do find one that's false, just let me know, and we'll talk about it.
the thing is no one is able to prove them

it's not up to the innocent to prove they are innocent

it's up to the accuser to prove he is guilty

so you pick a story you think you can prove beyond doubt and try to convince me that he really did it
 
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