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[The Barbarian]

Barbarian calls the bluff:
Pick one and challenge me on it. Might be a revelation for you.

(Truthfrees dodges)

been there done that

Yep. Looks like Shiloh Raven called it correctly. If you do happen to find one that's not true, come on back and show us, hear?

 

[Shiloh Raven]

well that is the assumption that set you on the wrong path - you have been drinking the msm kool aid and rather than take a look at msm you are judging and criticizing good people

No drinking kool aid here. All I have to do is listen to Trump talk or read his tweets on Twitter to tell what kind of a un-Christian man he is. It's not hard to see. And I do take a hard look at the news I read and listen to and that's why I don't give a grain of salt to any news that's uncritical of Trump.

 

[Gigimo]

And just because it is in print by a right wing source or Trump says something, doesn't mean it is true.
LOL the article even says Trump lies. Read the first paragraph.

I'm curious as to why you think the article is gospel??

 

[Truthfrees]

The smart thing to do, is listen to all different sources, and then think for yourself. FOX gets a lot of brickbats because they have a required set of republican talking points to sell. But that doesn't mean they always lie.

Mother Jones tends to do the liberal slant consistently. But that doesn't mean you can't get the truth from them, either.

And then the mainstream media runs in between the extremes. I check them all out. And that makes me harder to fool.

i do the same and have concluded differently

msm is not in between - it is left

fox is msm - some shows are left - some right - and a tiny few neutral

feeds with no commentary are more likely to be neutral if no one selectively filmed or edited

commentary is always skewed - the commentator is giving his pov -

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Barbarian calls the bluff:
Pick one and challenge me on it. Might be a revelation for you.

(Truthfrees dodges)

Yep. Looks like Shiloh Raven called it correctly. If you do happen to find one that's not true, come on back and show us, hear?

I don't think anyone, Christian or otherwise, can honestly defend Donald Trump. I think that's why so many of his supporters intentionally dodge questions like ours. They dance around the questions and even try to move the goal posts in order to avoid giving geniune answers to the hard questions about Donald Trump and their continued support of him. They make up the worst excuses and use deflection tactics to avoid the clear cut mountains of evidence of Trump's immoral and irrational behavior.

 

[Truthfrees]

Barbarian calls the bluff:
Pick one and challenge me on it. Might be a revelation for you.

(Truthfrees dodges)

Yep. Looks like Shiloh Raven called it correctly. If you do happen to find one that's not true, come on back and show us, hear?

problem is not with me - look again

 

[Truthfrees]

No drinking kool aid here. All I have to do is listen to Trump talk or read his tweets on Twitter to tell what kind of a un-Christian man he is. It's not hard to see. And I do take a hard look at the news I read and listen to and that's why I don't give a grain of salt to any news that's uncritical of Trump.

well you are looking through a biased lens - are you telling me you used to like him until his tweets?

 

[Truthfrees]

I don't think anyone, Christian or otherwise, can honestly defend Donald Trump. I think that's why so many of his supporters intentionally dodge questions like ours. They dance around the questions and even try to move the goal posts in order to avoid giving geniune answers to the hard questions about Donald Trump and their continued support of him. They make up the worst excuses and use deflection tactics to avoid the clear cut mountains of evidence of Trump's immoral and irrational behavior.

your descriptions do not match trump or his supporters - it does comprehensively match msm though

 

[Shiloh Raven]

well you are listening through a biased lens - are you telling me you used to like him until his tweets?

I've never liked Donald Trump. I think he's a disgusting sexual predator, just exactly what I thought of Bill Clinton when he was the president. At least I'm consistent in my moral convictions about men who sexually prey on women and continuously cheat on their wife by being a philandering adulterer.

 

[Gigimo]

problem is not with me - look again

You're wasting your breath.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

your descriptions do not match trump or his supporters - it does comprehensively match msm though

Quite the contrary, it's been undeniably proven to be a perfect match. I can't post the many articles that were written by Christians to demonstrate this beyond a shadow of a doubt though. I was told that these articles and their titles flame evangelical Trump supporters and I shouldn't post them.

 

[Truthfrees]

I've never liked Donald Trump. I think he's a disgusting sexual predator, just exactly what I thought of Bill Clinton when he was the president. At least I'm consistent in my moral convictions about men who sexually prey on women and continuously cheat on their wife by being a philandering adulterer.

that's what i thought - so that is the truth about what is going on

people who prejudge a person then tend to misjudge everything that person does or says

and msm creates stories to make it easy for people who prejudge to never take a 2nd look

 

[Shiloh Raven]

that's what i thought - so that is the truth about what is going on

people who prejudge a person then tend to misjudge everything that person does or says

and msm creates stories to make it easy for people who prejudge to never take a 2nd look

Wrong again. As much as I find the man disgusting, I do watch him during his rally speeches and I listen to what he says. I also read his tweets on Twitter. It's not hard to see what kind a man he is.

 

[Truthfrees]

Quite the contrary, it's been undeniably proven to be a perfect match. I can't post the many articles that were written by Christians to demonstrate this beyond a shadow of a doubt though. I was told that these articles and their titles flame evangelical Trump supporters and I shouldn't post them.

well i am not buying it - that is not proof - that is paint brushing

 

[Truthfrees]

Wrong again. As much as I find the man disgusting, I do watch him during his rally speeches and I listen to what he says. I also read his tweets on Twitter. It's not hard to see what kind a man he is.

you already dislike him - so of course you see him differently than i do

i studied him to find out who he was and why he behaves as he does - i read many books and watched many videos - pro and con - mostly con

i started with an open mind and it causes me to see msm as skewed

 

[FreeinChrist]

I'm curious as to why you think the article is gospel??

Did I say it is "gospel"?

LOL, One simply needs to hear the many lies Trump has spoken to know there is an honestly problem. The links are already posted in the thread. Here is another:

Trump has made 4,229 false or misleading claims since he became president, 588 days ago

 

[FreeinChrist]

you already dislike him - so of course you see him differently than i do

i studied him to find out who he was and why he behaves as he does - i read many books and watched many videos - pro and con - mostly con

i started with an open mind and it causes me to see msm as skewed

That assumes others do not study or listen and evaluate.

The bias I see is on the right. What I see is denial of facts for an alternative viewpoint to fit a desired end.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Wrong again. As much as I find the man disgusting, I do watch him during his rally speeches and I listen to what he says. I also read his tweets on Twitter. It's not hard to see what kind a man he is.

I quit listening because of the repeated lying, and the nasty name-calling and lack of actual policy statements.

 

[Gigimo]

Did I say it is "gospel"?

LOL, One simply needs to hear the many lies Trump has spoken to know there is an honestly problem. The links are already posted in the thread. Here is another:

Trump has made 4,229 false or misleading claims since he became president, 588 days ago

What makes you think this article is any more truthful/factual than the last one??

 

[Truthfrees]

That assumes others do not study or listen and evaluate.

The bias I see is on the right. What I see is denial of facts for an alternative viewpoint to fit a desired end.

yes - that is the issue - we each see bias on the other side

at least our bias is kinder - we don't run around only condemning one person and not the other - we mostly just defend the innocent

trump has not been caught in anything - that is an illusion created by a myriad of allegations - it's too bad that allegations pass as truth/fact for ONLY trump - doesn't seem to apply to anyone else on the left

by msm accounts the left are all unimpeachable saints - every transgression excused - even ones that are proven

and all the unproven allegations against trump are wildly exaggerated and considered fact