Zechariah 14 speaks of the New Jerusalem

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[Seville90210]

sickle shows what?
harvest time!

Jesus Christ will reap the earth. He is gathering in the harvest!
The church is dying for Him under the son of perdition up to this point.

\those that die -are keeping the faith of Jesus
/they are the church
/the church that has yet to see the rapture take place

vinsight4u, Revelation 14 is not the rapture. Read it carefully in it's entirety. This is an error interpretation someone invented and somehow the world accepted the idea.

Revelation 14:19-20 New King James Version (NKJV)
19 So the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and threw it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. 20 And the winepress was trampled outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress, up to the horses’ bridles, for one thousand six hundred furlongs.

 

[Tayla]

Jerusalem of Zechariah 14:11 is the New Jerusalem.

The New Jerusalem is in the new heavens and new earth. There is no utopia on earth until then.

 

[DavidPT]

Fact:
He is the now ruling king:

"Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth" (Rev 1:5)

I still have a lot of posts addressed to me I need to try and catch up on. I'll start here for now.

In context though, which kings of the earth is it meaning?

Revelation 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

These kings of the earth?

Revelation 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.


Or these kings of the earth?

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[Seville90210]

Look at how many crowns are in Rev. 14 and Rev. 19. Revelation 14 is about many things. It is not a chapter that should be read as one complete story.

What does Jesus Christ ride on in Rev. 14?
Rev. 19?

one crown - Rev. 14
many crowns - Rev. 19

a sickle used by Him - Rev. 14
no sickle - Rev. 19

I'm aware of the crowns vinsight4u. Revelation 14 is not Revelation 19 either.

Revelation 14 is not the rapture and not the same coming in Revelation 19, it's why I bold in red "outside the city" in Revelation 14:20.

Revelation 14:19-20 New King James Version (NKJV)
19 So the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and threw it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. 20 And the winepress was trampled outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress, up to the horses’ bridles, for one thousand six hundred furlongs.​

In Revelation 19, Christ descends upon Armageddon, roughly 50 miles north off Jerusalem to face the A/C. While in Revelation 14, He fights at Jerusalem and the city is destroyed. Two different comings at different time lines in two different locations. That city in verse 20 is Jerusalem being destroy at the AoD, Isaiah 29:1-8.

Revelation 14 happens before the marriage supper, while Revelation 19 happens after the marriage supper. This is where His extra crowns comes from.

Now if you read Revelation 19:13, His robe is dipped in blood because He was already on earth executing judgment.

Revelation 19:13 New King James Version (NKJV)
He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.​

Isaiah 63 also testifies Jesus having been on earth executing judgment in what is modern day Jordan long before Revelation 19.

Isaiah 63:1-6 New King James Version (NKJV)
1 Who is this who comes from Edom,
With dyed garments from Bozrah,
This One who is glorious in His apparel,
Traveling in the greatness of His strength?—​

“I who speak in righteousness, mighty to save.”

2 Why is Your apparel red,
And Your garments like one who treads in the winepress?
And Your garments like one who treads in the winepress?

3 “I have trodden the winepress alone,
And from the peoples no one was with Me.
For I have trodden them in My anger,
And trampled them in My fury;
Their blood is sprinkled upon My garments,
And I have stained all My robes.

4 For the day of vengeance is in My heart,
And the year of My redeemed has come.

5 I looked, but there was no one to help,
And I wondered
That there was no one to uphold;
Therefore My own arm brought salvation for Me;
And My own fury, it sustained Me.

6 I have trodden down the peoples in My anger,
Made them drunk in My fury,
And brought down their strength to the earth.”​

In summary, Revelation 19 is the final stage of the second coming, the end where He faces the A/C at Armageddon to end the war before all flesh on earth parishes.

 

[BABerean2]

In summary, Revelation 19 is the final stage of the second coming, the end where He faces the A/C at Armageddon to end the war before all flesh on earth parishes.

Christ also comes at Armageddon in the passage below.

Rev 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
Rev 16:16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

This passage proves the book is not in chronological order.

The "harvest" of Revelation chapter 14 is found in the parable of the wheat and tares from Matthew chapter 13.

.

 

[parousia70]

I still have a lot of posts addressed to me I need to try and catch up on. I'll start here for now.

In context though, which kings of the earth is it meaning?

Revelation 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

These kings of the earth?

Revelation 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.


Or these kings of the earth?

Great Question!
I'd say both groups,.
Would you say no?

Do you say one Group of Kings has power and authority ABOVE Jesus on earth today and the other does not?

Or perhaps You believe Jesus today only rules and reigns over believers?

Do you, therefore, assert one day in the future the unrepentant will also share in Christs Victory?

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm