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If the Kavanaugh accusations are true...

...should he be confirmed to the Supreme Court?

  • I'm a Republican and I say he should.

    Votes: 3 8.3%
  • I'm a Democrat and I say he should.

    Votes: 3 8.3%
  • I'm a Republican and I say he shouldn't

    Votes: 6 16.7%
  • I'm a Democrat and I say he shouldn't.

    Votes: 10 27.8%
  • Other (please specify)

    Votes: 14 38.9%

  • Total voters
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Are you suggesting that Ford and now Ramirez are after his money...?
NO I am suggesting that they are not telling the truth and their objective is to block his appointment to the supreme court because of their liberal bias. I am even going to far as to say that Ford is a seasoned professional taught by the system to lie for economic advantage. IE to push and sell drugs. Ramirez is also a professional that deal in rape counseling. So she knows all the inns and outs of the business and how to create a model that does not reflect the truth.

In physics they call this the uncertainty principle. They have created a model where no one can predict with any certainty what the outcome will be. To which Einstein would say that "God does not play dice" and God knows the outcome. In this case the outcome is NOT going to be the results that Ford or Ramirez are hoping for. Just like in the last election the outcome was not what Hillary was expecting. Even though she had an 85% chance or probability of success she still managed to fail at her attempt.

I am not going to explain any more to you because we have the advantage to be able to determine the outcome and we do not want to tell the obstructionists how to do that.

There is a time and there is a place for them to be heard but this is NOT the time and this is NOT the place. It is absurd to suggest that it is. You can not tie up the whole country in a tizzy over what happened to them many years ago back when they were in high school and college and drank to much and got upset over what may or may not have happened to them when they were inebriated. Esp when no one is coming forward to confirm their story

Also Judge Kavanaugh was not even in town at the time. His journal shows that he was on vacation with his parents. Ford should have been with her parents. To say that she did NOT spend her Summer Vacation at home with her parents causes many bells and alarms to go off for me. I know people that were raised in summer camps and boarding schools and they spent very little time at home with their parents and they are very troubled people.

So if this is the best the obstructionists can do, then we just need to drop this whole issue and get on with the vote. Then if they feel he is unfit to serve, they can work to impeach him. A can of worms I would love to see them open. Because there are at least three liberals on the bench that my not be able to hand the scrutiny of an impeachment hearings. I keep saying over and over again people are going to fall into their own pit and get caught in their own net.
 
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NO I am suggesting that they are not telling the truth and their objective is to block his appointment to the supreme court because of their liberal bias. I am even going to far as to say that Ford is a seasoned professional taught by the system to lie for economic advantage. IE to push and sell drugs. Ramirez is also a professional that deal in rape counseling. So she knows all the inns and outs of the business and how to create a model that does not reflect the truth.

In physics they call this the uncertainty principle. They have created a model where no one can predict with any certainty what the outcome will be. To which Einstein would say that "God does not play dice" and God knows the outcome. In this case the outcome is NOT going to be the results that Ford or Ramirez are hoping for. Just like in the last election the outcome was not what Hillary was expecting. Even though she had an 85% chance or probability of success she still managed to fail at her attempt.

I am not going to explain any more to you because we have the advantage to be able to determine the outcome and we do not want to tell the obstructionists how to do that.

There is a time and there is a place for them to be heard but this is NOT the time and this is NOT the place. It is absurd to suggest that it is. You can not tie up the whole country in a tizzy over what happened to them many years ago back when they were in high school and college and drank to much and got upset over what may or may not have happened to them when they were inebriated. Esp when no one is coming forward to confirm their story

Also Judge Kavanaugh was not even in town at the time. His journal shows that he was on vacation with his parents. Ford should have been with her parents. To say that she did NOT spend her Summer Vacation at home with her parents causes many bells and alarms to go off for me. I know people that were raised in summer camps and boarding schools and they spent very little time at home with their parents and they are very troubled people.

So if this is the best the obstructionists can do, then we just need to drop this whole issue and get on with the vote. Then if they feel he is unfit to serve, they can work to impeach him. A can of worms I would love to see them open. Because there are at least three liberals on the bench that my not be able to hand the scrutiny of an impeachment hearings. I keep saying over and over again people are going to fall into their own pit and get caught in their own net.

Good grief...what a meaningless ramble...!

I can only hope that “I am not going to explain any more” was a true statement...
 
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Good grief...what a meaningless ramble...!
Good I am glad you do not understand because if you did then you may be able to determine outcome and that is the last thing we would want people to be able to do.
 
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He's already been cleared 6 times by the FBI during his career. He's also been questioned by the Senate for dozens of hours by the Senate during these hearings and answered 1200 written questions. When will it be enough?

So what? If he's totally innocent then he should want the FBI to investigate the allegations. Instead, his accuser is the one wanting them to investigate, which gives her more credibility.
 
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We shouldn't be trying to confirm a conservative judge or a liberal judge, but a good judge. If the Republicans are trying to confirm a judge because he will, say, vote to overturn Roe v. Wade they have surrendered their integrity from the get-go.

Have they though? If Republicans firmly believe Roe v Wade is not faithful to the text or meaning of the Constitution, then how are the surrendering integrity by preferring a justice who has a similar or identical view?
 
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Have they though? If Republicans firmly believe Roe v Wade is not faithful to the text or meaning of the Constitution, then how are the surrendering integrity by preferring a justice who has a similar or identical view?
If so. On the other hand, I think most of the "base" just wants Roe v. Wade to be gone for religious reasons and will support any nominee who thinks he can find a way.
 
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If so. On the other hand, I think most of the "base" just wants Roe v. Wade to be gone for religious reasons and will support any nominee who thinks he can find a way.

Sure, but that ignores the fact that since
Roe v Wade was decided, conservatives have derided the opinion as not supported by the specific text of the Constitution invoked or its meaning. Indeed, the substance of Rhenquist’s dissent was that the decision wasn’t supported by the specific text or meaning of the Constitution. The “base,” as you call it, includes people who adhere to the view Roe v Wade isn’t faithful to the specific text or it’s meaning in the Constitution.
 
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Have they though? If Republicans firmly believe Roe v Wade is not faithful to the text or meaning of the Constitution, then how are the surrendering integrity by preferring a justice who has a similar or identical view?

True, but surely they could have found a potential jurist with a less rape-y reputation.
 
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At this point, I would think Trump should scrub Kavenaugh and work to get someone else in. Maybe a woman. There's going to be an endless stream of accusations now that people know it's going to delay the vote. We need to get someone in before midterms.

That would imply that there is merit to the Kavanaugh accusations.... and worse, that Donald made an error.

No GOP supporter is going to cop to any of that.
 
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I'm glad to hear that. Right now in this country, there are people in the mainstream Press who seem to think we should believe was Ms. Ford is saying about Kavanaugh already. Check out this video and it becomes obvious that those in the "celebrity world" have their minds made up without even having to hear this woman's testimony: Andrea L. Pino #BelieveSurvivors on Twitter

Nobody's on trial, therefore, nobody's at any risk of being convicted.
 
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As teenagers, people don't always think about what they want to accomplish in life.I am sure Kavanaugh was not thinking about one day becoming a supreme court justice while he was having a good time at a party. But supreme court justices mus be beyond reproach, imho. I believe Dr. Ford. Even if he may have felt bad afterward and he never di it again, it happened, an it could have influence on his decisions. He should not be seated.
How can you believe a woman you have neither met or heard?
 
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True, but surely they could have found a potential jurist with a less rape-y reputation.

It’s unfortunate you have to resort to the undignified suggestion Kavanaugh has a reputation of raping. You should be ashamed man.
 
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It’s unfortunate you have to resort to the undignified suggestion Kavanaugh has a reputation of raping. You should be ashamed man.

And if we were talking about just one allegation, I'd be, as instructed, quite ashamed. However, that boat sailed about two accusers ago.

As it stands, I'm quite proud of myself for having the foresight to write accusations (plural) in the thread title... I was expecting others to come forward, of course, but I thought it wouldn't be until after the GOP fasttracked Kavanaugh to SCOTUS.
 
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And if we were talking about just one allegation, I'd be, as instructed, quite ashamed. However, that boat sailed about two accusers ago.

As it stands, I'm quite proud of myself for having the foresight to write accusations (plural) in the thread title... I was expecting others to come forward, of course, but I thought it wouldn't be until after the GOP fasttracked Kavanaugh to SCOTUS.

Shameful. There's no allegation of rape to support the idea Kavanaugh has a reputation of raping. None. What is equally appalling is some apparently approve of your baseless suggestion Kavanaugh is a rapist.

How would like someone posting publicly that you had a reputation for raping women, and there was nothing to substantiate that claim?

Your remark of Kavanaugh having a reputation for raping women is reckless, irresponsible, negligent, inflammatory, and inappropriate.
 
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Shameful. There's no allegation of rape to support the idea Kavanaugh has a reputation of raping. None. What is equally appalling is some apparently approve of your baseless suggestion Kavanaugh is a rapist.

I never said he was a rapist -- I merely suggested that there must be other potential SCOTUS jurists with "a less rape-y reputation."

Are there not? Can't we find a conservative jurist who hasn't been accused of sexual assault, or, failing that, accused by only one woman?

How would like someone posting publicly that you had a reputation for raping women, and there was nothing to substantiate that claim?

I would demand a full investigation by the FBI to clear my name and insure it doesn't derail my nomination for the Supreme Court.

Your remark of Kavanaugh having a reputation for raping women is reckless, irresponsible, negligent, inflammatory, and inappropriate.

Three accusers (and counting) does not a reputation make? How odd.
 
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NO I am suggesting that they are not telling the truth and their objective is to block his appointment to the supreme court because of their liberal bias. I am even going to far as to say that Ford is a seasoned professional taught by the system to lie for economic advantage. IE to push and sell drugs. Ramirez is also a professional that deal in rape counseling. So she knows all the inns and outs of the business and how to create a model that does not reflect the truth.

In physics they call this the uncertainty principle. They have created a model where no one can predict with any certainty what the outcome will be. To which Einstein would say that "God does not play dice" and God knows the outcome. In this case the outcome is NOT going to be the results that Ford or Ramirez are hoping for. Just like in the last election the outcome was not what Hillary was expecting. Even though she had an 85% chance or probability of success she still managed to fail at her attempt.

I am not going to explain any more to you because we have the advantage to be able to determine the outcome and we do not want to tell the obstructionists how to do that.

There is a time and there is a place for them to be heard but this is NOT the time and this is NOT the place. It is absurd to suggest that it is. You can not tie up the whole country in a tizzy over what happened to them many years ago back when they were in high school and college and drank to much and got upset over what may or may not have happened to them when they were inebriated. Esp when no one is coming forward to confirm their story

Also Judge Kavanaugh was not even in town at the time. His journal shows that he was on vacation with his parents. Ford should have been with her parents. To say that she did NOT spend her Summer Vacation at home with her parents causes many bells and alarms to go off for me. I know people that were raised in summer camps and boarding schools and they spent very little time at home with their parents and they are very troubled people.

So if this is the best the obstructionists can do, then we just need to drop this whole issue and get on with the vote. Then if they feel he is unfit to serve, they can work to impeach him. A can of worms I would love to see them open. Because there are at least three liberals on the bench that my not be able to hand the scrutiny of an impeachment hearings. I keep saying over and over again people are going to fall into their own pit and get caught in their own net.

You make some good points. Interesting post.
 
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