Seemingly Anti-OSAS Scriptures

[FreeGrace2]

I think so many make this claim do to poor teaching by protestant preachers and teachers. The Eastern Orthodox Church has been in place since the days of the Apostles. We have never taught that a believer is saved here on earth but rather being saved through the teaching and guidance of the Holy Ghost and the Church.

This is a false claim and shows that the poor teaching is from the EOC.

These verses plainly say that on the basis of believing in Christ, one IS SAVED. That's a presence tense.

John 3:36, 5:24, 6:47, Acts 15:11, Rom 10:10, 1 John 5:13.

I do not believe you can lose your salvation here on earth because you don't yet possess it but are being prepared for it.

Jesus SAID those who believe HAVE (that means presently possess) eternal life on the basis of faith in Him in John 5:24 and 6:47. Do you want to go on record for NOT believing what He said?

Then He said in John 10:28 that those He gives eternal life SHALL NEVER PERISH.

How can you claim to be a Christian and yet REJECT what He said.

Salvation comes at the judgement seat of Christ, not here on earth.

This is wrong, as I've already explained to you.

We are not yet married to Christ. That, my friend, is our salvation, our reward.

Do you not realize that by definition, a reward is EARNED? So if you do believe that salvation is a reward earned, then you believe in salvation by works.

Your theology is no better than that of the Pharisees, who claimed salvation was by keeping the law.

Which is why Jesus said this to the Pharisees:
John 5:39 - You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me,

I suggest you rethink your theology. It isn't biblical.

 

[FreeGrace2]

Hopefully you are not now clinging to Armenian belief either. It is equally false.

You are quite correct. Both gr8grace and I are neither Arminian or Calvinist. We have been arguing FOR the biblical teaching that salvation is permanent.

 

[FreeGrace2]

Dan the deacon said: ↑
I do not believe you can lose your salvation here on earth because you don't yet possess it but are being prepared for it.

Amen.

This reveals the unbiblical views of both of you.

I've given verses that plainly state the present tense of being saved and possessing eternal life. So there is no excuse for thinking that salvation is only future and is determined on the basis of one's lifestyle.

That's exactly what the Pharisees thought as well. And it didn't work out very well for them.

 

[Dan the deacon]

Consider these verses:

Acts 15:11 - No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”

Rom 10:10 - For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.

Do you believe that salvation and eternal life are synonymous? I can show that those who believe in Christ as Savior HAVE eternal life.

So, how would one argue that a person can POSSESS eternal life yet still be unsaved?

I don't see how. John 3:36, 5:24, 6:47 and 1 John 5:13 ALL say that possession of eternal life is based on faith in Christ.


It says both. But when the future tense is used, it refers to being saved as a result of believing in Christ. iow, salvation comes after believing, not before.


No, it's that you misunderstand the Judgment Seat of Christ that Paul mentioned in 2 Cor 5:10 - "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad."

This judgment is not to determine where the believer will spend eternity. That was absolutely decided when one believes in Christ.

This is what Jesus said about those who believe in Him, in John 10:28 - "I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand."

In this verse, Jesus taught the CAUSE and EFFECT of having eternal life.

The red words speak to the cause of possession of eternal life; Jesus Christ Himself.

The blue words speak to the effect of possession of eternal life; they shall never perish.

So, what is the purpose of the Judgment Seat of Christ? To determine whether rewards will be earned, which is based on one's lifestyle.

The Arminian problem is viewing lifestyle as the determinant of whether one ends up in heaven or hell. But they fail to understand that such a view reduces salvation to one of works.


I believe you misunderstand the 3 tenses of "salvation".

Remember what the word really means; to rescue, to deliver, to protect from. When used in reference to faith in Christ, it means an eternal rescue from hell, or to deliver from hell, and to protect from hell.

John 3:18 - Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
This is seen in John 3:36 - Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them.

However, Paul used "salvation" in a present tense 'being saved' in Phil 2:12 - Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling,

So, salvation can be thought of as in the past, present and future tense.

Past tense: we have been saved from the penalty of sin. This is justification.
Present tense: we are being saved from the power of sin. This is sanctification.
Future tense: we will be saved from the presence of sin. This is glorification.

So when you say "I am being saved", that doesn't refer to how to get to heaven. If you have placed your trust in Jesus Christ as your Savior who died for your sins and gives you eternal life, you ARE saved. Period.

It does refer to the sanctification process, whereby the believer is growing in grace and in the knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ as long as they are in fellowship with Christ and not out of fellowship.

Different tenses? So you believe you are here on earth fully saved? Sorry, the early Church does not agree with you. We are being saved. It is only complete at our judgement. It is also not ours to claim such. That is the decision of God. Not you or I. Blessed assurance is a song not scripture.

This is a false claim and shows that the poor teaching is from the EOC.

These verses plainly say that on the basis of believing in Christ, one IS SAVED. That's a presence tense.

John 3:36, 5:24, 6:47, Acts 15:11, Rom 10:10, 1 John 5:13.


Jesus SAID those who believe HAVE (that means presently possess) eternal life on the basis of faith in Him in John 5:24 and 6:47. Do you want to go on record for NOT believing what He said?

Then He said in John 10:28 that those He gives eternal life SHALL NEVER PERISH.

How can you claim to be a Christian and yet REJECT what He said.


This is wrong, as I've already explained to you.


Do you not realize that by definition, a reward is EARNED? So if you do believe that salvation is a reward earned, then you believe in salvation by works.

Your theology is no better than that of the Pharisees, who claimed salvation was by keeping the law.

Which is why Jesus said this to the Pharisees:
John 5:39 - You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me,

I suggest you rethink your theology. It isn't biblical.

 

[FreeGrace2]

Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God.

Well, that pretty much sums up your huge problem. You believe that a believer CAN perish, in spite of what Jesus said in John 10:28.

Jesus taught eternal security in that verse by noting both the CAUSE and EFFECT of having eternal life, which is given WHEN one believes in Christ, per John 3:36, 5:24, 6:47 and 1 John 5:13. All are present tense verses.

He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. 2 John 9

Then you've proven that you have neither by your rejection of what Jesus taught.

We are called to remain in the doctrine of Christ by which we remain in Him.

Which you've plainly denied what Jesus taught.

Those who do not continue in the doctrine of Christ are severed, removed from Him and no longer have God.

You've sealed your own doom.

That’s the end of eternal security; the end of OSAS.

More like the end of you.

Jesus taught eternal security.

 

[FreeGrace2]

As one is given eternal life at God's judgement I am wondering how you got it before being judged.

I have already posted the verses that plainly state the PRESENT TENSE of salvation and possessing eternal life. It appears you haven't gotten to them yet.

Being born again happens here on earth but that is not yet salvation.

This couldn't be more wrong.

Note what Paul said:
2 Cor 5:17 - Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here!

Now, note what Paul said about HOW to be "in Christ" in Eph 1:13
"And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit,"

So the believer IS sealed with the Spirit WHEN they believe.

So, what is the believer sealed for? The next verse tells us:
"who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory."

So we see that the Holy Spirit is a deposit that GUARANTEES the inheritance until the redemption of God's possession.

Sure doesn't sound like the believer could end up losing what is guaranteed, does it.

 

[JLB777]

Once again another dishonest post.

This is what your untrue (lie) comment was in response to:
"Here is from the post you're responding to:
"Directly applies to those who claim that salvation can be lost, IN SPITE of what Jesus said so clearly in John 10:28 and no one can refute."

and
"Reality is that Jesus Christ died once for all sins. Hebrews 9-10."

By my count, 2 Scriptures were cited. Either your counting skills need work, or being dishonest is just easier.


Since you believe that people who have been given eternal life CAN later perish because of lifestyle, then you yourself don't believe what Jesus said about recipients of eternal life.

So I conclude that you yourself don't know Him. How can you know One with whom you totally disagree?


But you don't know Him because you don't believe Him.


Those who claim to know Him but don't believe what He says are also liars.


I have no reason to defend Calvinism, as that theology has as many errors as the Arminians. But John 10:28 is the most clear statement about eternal security in the Bible.

So there is no end of OSAS. Such talk is merely a delusion.


Correct, but not for what you think. In order to abide in Him, we must keep His commandments. To do otherwise, we are out of fellowship and Not abiding in Him.

But Arminians demonstrate their ignorance of the issue of being in or out of fellowship. So further discussion with Arminians regarding this issue is worthless, as you've demonstrated over and over.

Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.
1 John 3:24

From my many years on Christian forums and dealing with Arminians, I am convinced that the teaching on fellowship isn't taught among them. It's really sad to see such cluelessness regarding such an important issue.


Correct, but again, not for the reasons you may assume.


Absolutely untrue.

But again, you don't believe what Jesus said about recipients of eternal life; that they SHALL NEVER PERISH.

Your twisted opinion is that they CAN perish. Shame on you. You don't even know Him with that notion.[/QUOTE]


Still hiding your false doctrine in the darkness of man’s opinion with no scripture.

You won’t post John 10:28 because it begins with the conjunction word “and”.

This forces you to then read verse 27 as a complete statement which shows verse 28, the result of obeying verse 27.


27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. John 10:27-28




27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. John 10:27-28

• Sheep that are not snatched out of His hand are those who hear His Voice, and follow Him.

• Sheep who do not hear and obey His voice, are those of His sheep who become lost.

• Sheep who follow for a while then wander away, are those who become lost.

 

[FreeGrace2]

Different tenses? So you believe you are here on earth fully saved?

I just explained how the word "saved" can be used in 3 tenses. Didn't you read any of them? Do you NOT believe that the believer is justified, can be sanctified and will be glorified? Apparently not.

If that's the case, there is no reason to discuss biblical matter with you. Your perspective is so off the rails as to make rational and reasonable discussion totally impossible, I'm sorry to say.

Sorry, the early Church does not agree with you.

I couldn't care less what the "early Church" or the EOC thinks.

I totally care what the Bible SAYS. And apparently you're more wrapped up in the EOC teaching than what the Bible SAYS.

[QTUOE] We are being saved. It is only complete at our judgement. It is also not ours to claim such. That is the decision of God. Not you or I. Blessed assurance is a song not scripture.[/QUOTE]
Well, I've already explained it. But you're free to reject anything you want to reject.

But at your own peril.

 

[Dan the deacon]

A reward here on earth is indeed what you say. In heaven it is a gift. How things are on earth have nothing to do with heaven,s ways. We have done nothing to earn our salvation. It is a gift given of God to those who believe. And not as a reward for believing but as it is His will.
We are not complete here on earth. God has a judgement for a reason. We do indeed begin on salvation here on earth. But it is completed after life on earth. It is completed when God tells you face to face. Anything before that is a hope rather than a fact.

 

[FreeGrace2]

A reward here on earth is indeed what you say. In heaven it is a gift.

Again, this is in error.

Eph 2:8 - For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—

The phrase "it is the gift of God" refers back to "have been saved". Gifts ar NOT earned, by definition.

So the verse is saying that salvation is "not from yourselves". iow, you CAN'T earn salvation.

So one can NEVER say salvation is a reward. They are always earned.

How things are on earth have nothing to do with heaven,s ways.

This demonstrates how little you know the Bible.

2 John 8 - Watch out that you do not lose what we have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully.

Do you not see that one can be rewarded either "fully" or not so much?

We have done nothing to earn our salvation. It is a gift given of God to those who believe. And not as a reward for believing but as it is His will.

This is biblically correct, but contradicts most of what you've posted.

We are not complete here on earth.

Never said we were.

God has a judgement for a reason. We do indeed begin on salvation here on earth.

I've already given the verses that refute this.

But it is completed after life on earth. It is completed when God tells you face to face. Anything before that is a hope rather than a fact.

Nonsense. And I've proven that from Scripture, which you're not so much aware of.

 

[WordSword]

Anything before that is a hope rather than a fact.

Not to refute your opinion, but just indicating that only in this life can we "know we have eternal life" (1 John 5:13). It will be too late to address this issue in the next life. All is settled in this life.

God's blessings to your Family!

 

[JLB777]

Well, that pretty much sums up your huge problem. You believe that a believer CAN perish, in spite of what Jesus said in John 10:28.

Jesus taught eternal security in that verse by noting both the CAUSE and EFFECT of having eternal life, which is given WHEN one believes in Christ, per John 3:36, 5:24, 6:47 and 1 John 5:13. All are present tense verses.


Then you've proven that you have neither by your rejection of what Jesus taught.


Which you've plainly denied what Jesus taught.


You've sealed your own doom.


More like the end of you.

Jesus taught eternal security.

Still hiding your false doctrine in the darkness of man’s opinion with no scripture.

You won’t post John 10:28 because it begins with the conjunction word “and”.

This forces you to then read verse 27 as a complete statement which shows verse 28, the result of obeying verse 27.


27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. John 10:27-28




27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. John 10:27-28

• Sheep that are not snatched out of His hand are those who hear His Voice, and follow Him.

• Sheep who do not hear and obey His voice, are those of His sheep who become lost.

• Sheep who follow for a while then wander away, are those who become lost.

 

[JLB777]

Well, that pretty much sums up your huge problem. You believe that a believer CAN perish, in spite of what Jesus said in John 10:28.

Jesus taught eternal security in that verse by noting both the CAUSE and EFFECT of having eternal life, which is given WHEN one believes in Christ, per John 3:36, 5:24, 6:47 and 1 John 5:13. All are present tense verses.

All opinion, tagged with a scripture reference.


No Scripture
No Context

No doctrine: Man's Opinion.



JLB

 

[Gr8Grace]

Hopefully you are not now clinging to Armenian belief either. It is equally false.

Thank you. You just made my point.

It should be abundantly clear,to anyone who is paying a weeee bit of attention, that I believe arminian theology has many flaws. Same goes for calvinism/reformed theology.

One of my flaws is thinking that people actually read and digest what is presented from someone else. And respond accordingly.<<<<<<<It's not the case.

I have made a biblical case for eternal security and that we cannot lose salvation PERIOD.....over and over again!

And I get asked that hopefully I don't cling to arminian theology? SMH

 

[FreeGrace2]

Still hiding your false doctrine in the darkness of man’s opinion with no scripture.

This is what your response is in relation to my comments:

"Well, that pretty much sums up your huge problem. You believe that a believer CAN perish, in spite of what Jesus said in John 10:28.

Jesus taught eternal security in that verse by noting both the CAUSE and EFFECT of having eternal life, which is given WHEN one believes in Christ, per John 3:36, 5:24, 6:47 and 1 John 5:13. All are present tense verses."

I cited 5 Scriptures. So is this an admission that you do not know how to count, or what.

You won’t post John 10:28 because it begins with the conjunction word “and”.

So what? You've proven nothing more than that you can't count, and that you don't know how conditional clauses are formed.

This forces you to then read verse 27 as a complete statement which shows verse 28, the result of obeying verse 27.

The word "and" in NO WAY means a result is coming. What it does show is that v.27 is a description of who Jesus' sheep are, believers, from v.10 in that same chapter, and that the result of being a believer means they are recipients of eternal life by Jesus Himself.

Now, pay attention to the "and" between the red and blue words in v.28 -

"and I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand."

Now prove that the red words DON'T state the CAUSE of having eternal life is Jesus Christ Himself.

Now prove that the blue words DON'T state the EFFECT of having eternal life, which is that they shall never perish.

If you can prove the red and blue words aren't stating the CAUSE and EFFECT of having eternal life, you win the debate.

Otherwise, nothing has changed. You have never been in the debate.

27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. John 10:27-28

Everyone who is familiar with the English language can see that v.27 is a description of Jesus' sheep. And the result of being a sheep is being given eternal life.

That's been my point all along.

27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. John 10:27-28

Sure. The result of being a sheep of Jesus is that He gives them eternal life and they shall never perish.

Sheep that are not snatched out of His hand are those who hear His Voice, and follow Him.
Sheep who do not hear and obey His voice, are those of His sheep who become lost.
Sheep who follow for a while then wander away, are those who become lost

This show just how little you comprehend plain English.

It also show just how much you twist clearly stated Scripture.

John 3:36, 5:24, 6:47 and 1 John 5:13 all plainly say that believers POSSESS (in the present tense) eternal life.

So we know that the condition for possessing eternal life is to believe in Jesus.

Can you provide ANY verse that says that one receives eternal life by following Jesus? No, you can't and everyone knows this.

 

[FreeGrace2]

All opinion, tagged with a scripture reference.


No Scripture
No Context

No doctrine: Man's Opinion.

Is this really a defense? It's pathetic.

Anyone can move their cursor over each citation and see what the verse says.

And those who do easily see that the verses SAY what I claim.

If you want to discount a verse citation and count it as "no Scripture", that's your own problem. Not mine.

But calling the very words of Jesus as "man's opinion" really crosses the line by a mile.

And you don't even believe what Jesus said in v.28, that recipients of eternal life shall never perish.

And there are NO verses that tell us that the gift of eternal life can be taken away or removed.

 

[JLB777]

Well, that pretty much sums up your huge problem. You believe that a believer CAN perish, in spite of what Jesus said in John 10:28.

We don’t know what Jesus taught from this post because you refuse to quote what He said.

You are just stating your opinion.

A scripture reference is not a scripture.

The reason you refuse to quote what Jesus said is because what Jesus actually said refutes your lying doctrine of deceit.


My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. John 10:27-28


The condition for receiving eternal life is hearing His voice and following Him.

Those who stop following Him become lost.


Now we can all see why you won’t post the actual scripture because the truth of Jesus words expose your false doctrine.


JLB

 

[FreeGrace2]

We don’t know what Jesus taught from this post because you refuse to quote what He said.

You are just stating your opinion.

Here is what He said:
27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.
28 and I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.

I think you like colors, so I've color coded the 2 verses, for ease of understanding. Like a coloring book.

1. The purple words identify the subject of both v.27 and v.28, which are His sheep.

2. Now, please PROVE that the red words DO NOT describe Jesus' sheep, if you can.

3. Or, PROVE that the red words are CONDITIONS for being His sheep, if you can.

4. Then, please PROVE that the green words ARE NOT the CAUSE of having eternal life, if you can.

5. Finally, please PROVE that the blue words ARE NOT the EFFECT of having eternal life.

Now, I've given 5 points that you are invited to refute with PROOF.

Please address each point and show how my view is incorrect and there is another meaning.

A scripture reference is not a scripture.

ha. Everyone knows better. Please come up with a better defense than that.

The reason you refuse to quote what Jesus said is because what Jesus actually said refutes your lying doctrine of deceit.

Well, I just did and even color coded it for you in order to make it very easy to understand all of my points.

Can you refute any of my points? Or are you just going to continue to repeat your boring and erroneous talking points?

My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. John 10:27-28

I quoted both verses and even color coded them, like a coloring book to make it easy to follow along, and then gave 5 points regarding both verses.

Can you address each point and show me precisely why I'm wrong?

The condition for receiving eternal life is hearing His voice and following Him.

After addressing my 5 points, if you can PROVE this claim, please proceed.

So far, all you've done is complain about referencing verses and making this claim.

And all without any evidence.

Those who stop following Him become lost.

Well, since this isn't found anywhere in John 10, please PROVE your claim here with actual evidence from the Bible, if you can.

If you can't, everyone who reads this post will know you don't have any evidence from Scripture.

Now we can all see why you won’t post the actual scripture because the truth of Jesus words expose your false doctrine.

You are sooooo funny.

Now get busy and address my 5 points regarding v.27 and v.28. After that, then please PROVE that "those who stop followoing Him become lost" from Scripture.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Yes, this is one of the most directly-put readings and plainly spoken, yet no Bible commentator uses this passage (or any other) to demonstrate loosing faith and salvation.

It's often noted that Scripture occasionally seems to be contradictory within itself, so looking at the whole of Scripture relating to any subject can present more clarity with an issue. Concerning this subject, there's well more concurrence with the majority of the Bible language supporting permanency than there is with passages that seemingly teach otherwise, therefore my opinion is that while the majority of passages on a doctrine is received, the few seemingly opposing passages continue to receive further study and contemplation. (just my way and opinion)

Blessings!

Well, the early context is set up as saying this....

12 "Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;"
(Hebrews 3:12-14).

Now when you read Hebrews 10:26, it says if we willfully sin, there remains no more sacrifice for sin. What was going on here is that here were certain Messianic Jews who wanted to go back to the Jewish relgion so as to avoid persecution. When the persecution was over, they wanted to come back to Jesus. But the Bible is clear. If you willfull sin, there remains no more sacrifice for sin. But... if we confess our sin, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sin (1 John 1:9). Granted, if they deny Jesus as their Savior after having the Spirit they will not be forgiven (Hebrews 6:4-6). Apostasy is different than backsliding into sin. Those who backslide into sin can come back to the faith to the savng of their soul (James 5:19-20). But apostasy (Denying Jesus after having the Spirit) cannot be forgiven. Note: Peter did not yet have the Spirit when he denied the Lord. So he did not commit apostasy.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

This OP is for attempting a combined participation from those who are desiring to know more about the permanency of faith and salvation. I am presenting a couple passages to attempt to initiate interest in others who might desire to list whatever passages they can find relating to this issue that we can analyze together. The reason for my interest in dealing more with this issue is due to the fact that I believe it is the most significant Bible doctrine related to spiritual growth in the “image of Christ.”

For me the Bible is so clearly against OSAS it is not even funny. It is not only unbiblical. It is highly immoral - IMO. For if you tell a person they are saved not on the basic of any works, and you say nothing more, this can lead them to think they can turn God's grace into a license for immorality. Some will say that you will just automatically do what is good and right in time. But this is not what we read in Scripture.

After We are Saved by God's Grace, God’s Works (Done Through Us) Are Also Required As a Part of the Salvation Process:

(Here are a List of Verses):


“Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only." (James 2:24).

"Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.” (James 2:17-18).

"They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate." (Titus 1:16).

"If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, "(1 Timothy 6:3-4).

"...God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble." (James 4:6).

"What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? (Romans 6:1-2).

"And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him." (Hebrews 5:9).

"Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord" (Hebrews 12:14).

“...God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth” (2 Thessalonians 2:13).

“For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.” (Romans 8:13).

"If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha." (1 Corinthians 16:22).

"If ye love me, keep my commandments." (John 14:15).

“If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.” (John 15:10).

"And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me." (Matthew 10:38).

”If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? (Matthew 16:24-26).

"...No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God." (Luke 9:62).

“Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.” (Matthew 5:8).

"Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls." (James 1:21).

"But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: For there is no respect of persons with God." (Romans 2:8-11).

”And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.” (Revelation 22:12-15).

"For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved." (John 3:20).

“For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.” (Romans 11:21-22).

"...but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." (Matthew 19:17).

“Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” (Philippians 2:12).

“...And having become servants of God, ye have your fruit unto holiness and the end, everlasting life.” (Romans 6:22).

”Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.” (Matthew 25:34-40).

“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.” (Matthew 25:41-46).

”His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.” (Matthew 25:21).

”And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” (Matthew 25:30).

”Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end; While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation [i.e. as the people of Israel did when they rebelled against him in the desert.”] (Hebrews 3:12-15) (Note: The explanation on verse 15 in brackets is taken from the Living Bible Translation (TLB)).

”Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways. So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)” (Hebrews 3:10-11).

”Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. (Hebrews 4:11).

“In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.” (1 John 3:10).

“He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God” (John 8:47).

Now, you and others might be able to re-interpret the plain meaning of these verses above here, but I am not going to do that. I am not above what God's Word says to fit a belief that I would prefer to hear.