What if Adam had refused to eat the forbidden fruit?

[Blade]

I am not good with words.. ever wonder why God will punish not just that ONE but all of them.. even the ones that did nothing then generation to the next generation so forth. So a young man will leave his family as a young girl will leave hers and those two will get together and become ONE FLESH...do you see? Adam and Eve were not just two..in GODS eye they are ONE.

Like how does GOD talk about the earth and will MAN have to give an account for how he has treated the earth? I have not dont some of the awful things man has been doing to this earth. Yet I am here.. I repent as if I did it. I have to take some kind of responsibility for it. Can't just say.. WHAT? Hey.. I didnt eat of the tree..she did lol. Satan in the garden.. Satan had fallen ..well we dont know how long before Adam was even made that Satan fell. So GOD had a plan before creation. There is a REASON for all this.

We cant see it nor ever will on this earth. But our Father had it ALL worked out and He NEVER looses. No matter what man things haha man knows.. Man does not know. We only GUESS and its never right. Only HE IS. Anyway.. so.. though I do not like speculation.. Adam would in my eyes been just as wrong. Because he was told...even after it happen lol he blamed her.. WE see two....

 

[Saint Steven]

No they were one flesh .

We have it today too .
1 Corinthians 7:14 King James Version (KJV)
14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

That's a prize-winning response there. - Wow.

- Steve

 

[Saint Steven]

The Fall was the result of God's sovereign decree.

God is not the author of evil, but God decrees the ends as well as the means. See Romans 9 passage above. No one will stand before God and be able to blame Him for their sin.

So, are you saying that God set us up to fail? (I hope not)

- Steve

 

[Saint Steven]

The issue is not with sin, but fulfilling the earthly objective, so if man has to sin in order to fulfill his objective God will allow him to sin.

Humankind "fulfilling the earthly objective" ???
That's news to me. Tell us more about this . Thanks.

- Steve

 

[Dave L]

No they were one flesh .

We have it today too .
1 Corinthians 7:14 King James Version (KJV)
14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

This is true, but Adam, not Eve represented the human race in his failure.

 

[Dave L]

You need to keep in mind that untill Adam and Eve both sinned there was no curse , after Eve sinned Adam had choice to make because he was not deceived (1 Timothy 2:14) .Adam willfully ate the fruit . Untill both Adam and Eve ate there was no sin , then after Adam ate they eyes were opened and they saw that they were naked .

We don't know how would it work if there was 3rd person involved .

It still remains, we fell in Adam, not in Eve. See Romans 5.

 

[Saint Steven]

… Adam would in my eyes been just as wrong. Because he was told...even after it happen lol he blamed her.. WE see two....

Adam blamed Eve.
That's a great point that I have not seen prior on this thread.
Thanks for pointing that out. Good job!

- Steve

 

[Chinchilla]

It still remains, we fell in Adam, not in Eve. See Romans 5.

Adam means man . The name is not translated . Actually you can translate first 10 names from Genesis to see something interesting .


Adam = man
Eve = woman = came out of man

 

[Chinchilla]

Adam blamed Eve.
That's a great point that I have not seen prior on this thread.
Thanks for pointing that out. Good job!

- Steve

He knew what he did but he was scared of God talking to him so he changed his mind and decided to blame it on her .

 

[Dave L]

Adam means man . The name is not translated . Actually you can translate first 10 names from Genesis to see something interesting .


Adam = man
Eve = woman = came out of man

“Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:” (Romans 5:12)

 

[Chinchilla]

“Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:” (Romans 5:12)

Yea , sin did not enter after Eve sinned but when they both did .

Same goes for church , we are multiple people but one body in Christ .

 

[Hank77]

That's a prize-winning response there. - Wow.

- Steve

What do you think that verse means?

 

[Dave L]

Yea , sin did not enter after Eve sinned but when they both did .

Same goes for church , we are multiple people but one body in Christ .

But, Adam only was the representative of his race. Not Eve per Romans 5.

 

[Hank77]

No they were one flesh .

We have it today too .
1 Corinthians 7:14 King James Version (KJV)
14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

Yes, one flesh but this verse doesn't have anything to do with the atonement for sin or being held accountable for another person's sin or not being held accountable for one's own sin.
I'm not sure what you are getting at here. ?

 

[Chinchilla]

Yes, one flesh but this verse doesn't have anything to do with the atonement for sin or being held accountable for another person's sin or not being held accountable for one's own sin.
I'm not sure what you are getting at here. ?

Tried to explain why sin did not enter after Eve sinned but only after they both did .

 

[Hank77]

Tried to explain why sin did not enter after Eve sinned but only after they both did .

But how does that relate to the Corinth. verse, is what I am asking?

 

[Dave L]

Tried to explain why sin did not enter after Eve sinned but only after they both did .

That is because Adam was Eve's head, and the head of the human race. She fell along with the race when Adam sinned according to Romans 5.

 

[Chinchilla]

That is because Adam was Eve's head, and the head of the human race. She fell along with the race when Adam sinned according to Romans 5.

So what would happen if Adam decided to not sin ?

 

[Dave L]

So what would happen if Adam decided to not sin ?

Not having here eyes opened yet, my guess is that Eve would have been forgiven and granted repentance. Or have become subject to sickness and certain death for not repenting. But Adam would not.

 

[rusti-one]

True Love requires that those who adore you are not forced into it.
In many cases, that's called rape.
So as to not RAPE mankind, Adam was allowed to Sin and God made
other plans through His only Son to redeem believers.

The whole thing is becasue God prefers voluntary love over rape.
It was all planned as it happened, from the start, in the name of Love.

Agree! We're not Plan B. God knew all along from beginning to end. Funny how God purposely pointed out the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, like a Wet Paint sign, "and don't touch THAT one"...then purposely allowed the Serpent into the perfect garden of Eden? Really Lord? Heh