Is it possible to keep the 10 commandments?

[TheBibleIsTruth]

I did answer you.
Go check...
I said there is only ONE GOD.
The Great Spirit is the same God we worship.
There is only ONE God.

He reveals Himself as He will to each culture.
They may not have understood Him they way we do because we know Jesus. But....there is only ONE GOD.
Deuteronomy 6:4
Genesis 1:1

So you don't believe that the so called "gods" of other religions are false and demonic? You think that the gods of Hinduism and Islam are the same as the Lord God of the Holy Bible? How about the devil who is also called "god"?

 

[GodsGrace101]

Bold and underline for emphasis because it's another example of eisegesis.

John 6:45 “It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me.”

Note: “…and learned from him…” So your argument is dead in the water, but let’s look at the scripture Jesus quoted. (wants to remind you that even Satan has heard of the Father, but doesn’t see a need for something that obvious)

Cross reference Isaiah 54:13

11 “Afflicted city, lashed by storms and not comforted,
I will rebuild you with stones of turquoise,a]" style="box-sizing: border-box">[a]
your foundations with lapis lazuli.
12 I will make your battlements of rubies,
your gates of sparkling jewels,
and all your walls of precious stones.
13 All your children will be taught by the Lord,
and great will be their peace.

And as an exercise I invite you to examine who Isaiah was writing to (hint: there’s a reason I included verse 11) (second hint: it’s not all people in the world). Context...she is important.

WHAT is written in the prophets??

 

[Imagican]

I believe that repentance is the recognition of the truth and the sorrow we feel upon recognition of it.

In other words, when we recognize the 'sin' in our lives it grieves us to recognize how 'fruitless' we have been previous. That sparks a desire to be 'different'. We recognize that things can be different and we are grieved of our past.

In essence we make a 'deal' within our hearts to resist that which leads us to harm ourselves and others. And that deal is with God through His Son.

Therefore repentance would be basically an apology to God for past, present or future misdeeds. Recognition of and sorrow for and a sincere desire NOT TO DO IT AGAIN.

Knowing God and His Son come first and then comes repentance. For how could it be possible to repent before recognition?

And about the ten commandments..............is it possible? In today's society? Hardly.

But the ten commandments weren't only created as 'rules to follow', they were meant to teach a lesson. And that lesson is LOVE. And even those that learn what love is will still have a difficult time trying to LIVE according to love.

The flesh is a very powerful adversary. And this world TEACHES it to cater to itself. The world encourages us from the time we are born to follow what benefits OURSELVES more than trying to do what is best for others. We are taught SELF LOVE and love of 'things' from the time we are born.

Add to this the fact that the intellect is capable of justifying our behavior in ways we don't always understand. Often we are able to fool ourselves in to believing what we do is for the sake of others when in truth what we do we do for ourselves. And the world around us ENCOURAGES us to do so.

Awful hard to live IN this world without being a 'part of it'. Especially when to live outside of this world means to choose the path of an 'outcast'. For the world HATES Christ and those that would follow Him. That is why even most that are members of 'churches' are still following this world and accepted by this world. Few given the opportunity would willingly choose persecution as a daily part of their lives. And anyone that is a true follower of Christ most certainly WILL be persecuted. They WILL be treated no differently than Christ Himself.

Quick question: If Christ returned today and spoke out as the Son of God, how do you think He would be treated? I can assure you, WORSE than when He presented Himself before. So if a 'true Christian' presented themselves to the 'world', how do you suppose the 'world' would treat them.

So? Ten Commandments? Heck, most have still not learned the lesson that they were given to teach. Following them all? More likely to turn lead into gold.........

Blessings,

MEC

 

[GodsGrace101]

So you don't believe that the so called "gods" of other religions are false and demonic? You think that the gods of Hinduism and Islam are the same as the Lord God of the Holy Bible? How about the devil who is also called "god"?

So you don't believe that the so called "gods" of other religions are false and demonic? You think that the gods of Hinduism and Islam are the same as the Lord God of the Holy Bible? How about the devil who is also called "god"?

They perceive Him in a different way.
We like to say that they're serving a different God because they change God's nature, just as some on this thead do.
BUT, we are still serving the same God, even though some here change His nature. Is this not right?

I ask you again...How many Gods are there??
CAPITAL G.

 

[1stcenturylady]

I see. I thought you had said that it wasn't speaking to Christians...
So there are also TRUE Christians?
Maybe.
Off topic...
And anyway, who do I think I am to make that determination???

Yes, absolutely, there are true Christians. Let's look at 1 John 1.

A true Christian has God in them. So look at verse 5.

"...that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all."

Therefore, verse 7 is a true Christian.

7 "But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin."

This verse confirms 1 John 3:9 "Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

Now compare that with verses 6, 8 and 10. These persons are lacking the knowledge of God and the conviction of the Holy Spirit. They measure themselves by carnal standards.

If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. (These are righteous in their own eyes, but have never accepted Christ, and walk in the light. They do not have the Holy Spirit in them, as He is the Spirit of Truth. Since Adam's sin, all have sinned. Without Christ, none is righteous, no not one.)

10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us. (Same comments as 8)

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9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. (Acts 2:38-39) When we are cleansed of all sin, even the desire to commit sin (Romans 6:2), we are free indeed. But we must have been given the Holy Spirit, which is only given to those who repent and confess their sins (again Acts 2:38-39.) This verse is how to become a true Christian. Once free from sin, we are no longer a sinner of willful sins. (Those we know to be sin). The imperfections we commit regarding the fruit of the Spirit as opposed to the "law" are cleansed by the blood of Jesus Christ. And fruit grow. Jesus also prunes us to make bigger fruit (John 15). Those with no fruit at all are like those in verse 6 - they walk in darkness- and are cut off.

 

[GodsGrace101]

I believe that repentance is the recognition of the truth and the sorrow we feel upon recognition of it.

In other words, when we recognize the 'sin' in our lives it grieves us to recognize how 'fruitless' we have been previous. That sparks a desire to be 'different'. We recognize that things can be different and we are grieved of our past.

In essence we make a 'deal' within our hearts to resist that which leads us to harm ourselves and others. And that deal is with God through His Son.

Therefore repentance would be basically an apology to God for past, present or future misdeeds. Recognition of and sorrow for and a sincere desire NOT TO DO IT AGAIN.

Knowing God and His Son come first and then comes repentance. For how could it be possible to repent before recognition?

And about the ten commandments..............is it possible? In today's society? Hardly.

But the ten commandments weren't only created as 'rules to follow', they were meant to teach a lesson. And that lesson is LOVE. And even those that learn what love is will still have a difficult time trying to LIVE according to love.

The flesh is a very powerful adversary. And this world TEACHES it to cater to itself. The world encourages us from the time we are born to follow what benefits OURSELVES more than trying to do what is best for others. We are taught SELF LOVE and love of 'things' from the time we are born.

Add to this the fact that the intellect is capable of justifying our behavior in ways we don't always understand. Often we are able to fool ourselves in to believing what we do is for the sake of others when in truth what we do we do for ourselves. And the world around us ENCOURAGES us to do so.

Awful hard to live IN this world without being a 'part of it'. Especially when to live outside of this world means to choose the path of an 'outcast'. For the world HATES Christ and those that would follow Him. That is why even most that are members of 'churches' are still following this world and accepted by this world. Few given the opportunity would willingly choose persecution as a daily part of their lives. And anyone that is a true follower of Christ most certainly WILL be persecuted. They WILL be treated no differently than Christ Himself.

Quick question: If Christ returned today and spoke out as the Son of God, how do you think He would be treated? I can assure you, WORSE than when He presented Himself before. So if a 'true Christian' presented themselves to the 'world', how do you suppose the 'world' would treat them.

So? Ten Commandments? Heck, most have still not learned the lesson that they were given to teach. Following them all? More likely to turn lead into gold.........

Blessings,

MEC

There is a marked difference between being sorry and repenting. Many use the words "I repent of my sin" when they really mean "I'm sorry for my sin".

I did explain in a previous post what repent means.
Here's an article that could be helpful:


I’m sorry or I repent?.
POSTED ON SEPTEMBER 9, 2015 · POSTED IN GOSPEL, PARENTING
Saying “I’m sorry” is something anyone can do. Sorry doesn’t require change, only an acknowledgement that you messed up. Sorry is a way out of a problem, not the beginning of a new path. Sorry doesn’t require the power of God. If you will forgive the pun, “I’m sorry” is a sorry pretender to the biblical response “I repent” when sin is committed.

The Holy Spirit makes this sharp distinction between repentance and its worldly alternatives. It is the difference between life and death. Note well the wonderful promise of Paul’s words in 2 Corinthians 7:10:

Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death.

One reason that the presentation of the gospel is absent in parenting is because calling for repentance is not a common part of parents’ day-to-day conversations with their children.

Repentance means that you acknowledge how you have sinned against someone, that forgiveness for sin is sought, and a commitment is made to turn things around and pursue a path righteousness. This turn around can only be accomplished by the power of the gospel. Simply saying “I’m sorry” allows that a problem exists, but does nothing to bring about a genuine change of heart.

source: https://www.shepherdpress.com/im-sorry-or-i-repent/

 

[TheBibleIsTruth]

They perceive Him in a different way.
We like to say that they're serving a different God because they change God's nature, just as some on this thead do.
BUT, we are still serving the same God, even though some here change His nature. Is this not right?

I ask you again...How many Gods are there??
CAPITAL G.

The ONLY True God is the God of the Holy Bible. ALL so called gods are 100% FALSE and from satan himself. No faith or religion in the entire world worships the Lord God of the Holy Bible.

 

[Yarddog]

Every verse good.
I don't understand the point.
I agree with each one.

You were the one who brought the term curse, not I. I just gave you what scripture says.

 

[1stcenturylady]

This must naturally mean that we're sorry for our sins and will TRY to sin "no more", as Jesus said to the adulteress woman.
(Go and sin no more).

So, while on our path and we sin --- fall ---, we get up and ask forgiveness and keep going toward God. John made provision for this in 1 John 1.

And, yes, we must also BELIEVE in Jesus as our SAVIOR, and as our LORD. Lord of our lives. If we believe in Him, we also trust Him and learn from Him and follow Him. We are His disciples.

Both aspects must be present.
Do you agree?

I totally agreed up until this point.

Actually, Jesus made provision for us TRYING. When we repent of all sin, Jesus gives us a free gift - His Own Sinless Spirit. This is the seed He places in us, and confirms 1 John 3:9 to be true. 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

This is the difference between making Jesus our Savior, and making Jesus our Savior AND Lord. Those who believe in Jesus and still go on sinning willful sins are a picture of 1 John 1:6. They do not have the Holy Spirit in them. They are not dead to sin. Romans 8:9 verifies that they actually are not saved. Even the demons believe and tremble.

The difference between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant is the Holy Spirit given only through Christ. In the Old Covenant they knew what to do by the commandments, but had no power to not covet, thus breaking them all.

So the bottom line is, we must have the Holy Spirit who makes us dead to willful sin. Those who struggle with sin need to ask God for His Spirit.

Luke 11:13 "If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!”

 

[GodsGrace101]

The ONLY True God is the God of the Holy Bible. ALL so called gods are 100% FALSE and from satan himself. No faith or religion in the entire world worships the Lord God of the Holy Bible.

OK

 

[GodsGrace101]

You were the one who brought the term curse, not I. I just gave you what scripture says.

OK

 

[1stcenturylady]

Just because a Protestant term is used, doesn't mean it does or does not have the same meaning. Our church is a 2000 year old liturgical church. It's like the term "rapture," it means different things to different people. But, I don't really want to get into semantics here. This topic has nothing to do with the OP.

Thanks for bearing with me and responding. I do want to commend you for what you said.

 

[TheBibleIsTruth]

OK

Do you agree?

 

[GodsGrace101]

I totally agreed up until this point.

Actually, Jesus made provision for us TRYING. When we repent of all sin, Jesus gives us a free gift - His Own Sinless Spirit. This is the seed He places in us, and confirms 1 John 3:9 to be true. 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

This is the difference between making Jesus our Savior, and making Jesus our Savior AND Lord. Those who believe in Jesus and still go on sinning willful sins are a picture of 1 John 1:6. They do not have the Holy Spirit in them. They are not dead to sin. Romans 8:9 verifies that they actually are not saved. Even the demons believe and tremble.

The difference between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant is the Holy Spirit given only through Christ. In the Old Covenant they knew what to do by the commandments, but had no power to not covet, thus breaking them all.

So the bottom line is, we must have the Holy Spirit who makes us dead to willful sin. Those who struggle with sin need to ask God for His Spirit.

Luke 11:13 "If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!”

I agree with 90% of the above.
So...you don't sin anymore?

 

[GodsGrace101]

Do you agree?

No.

 

[TheBibleIsTruth]

No.

So the First of the Ten Commandments is not 100% true?

 

[1stcenturylady]

I agree with 90% of the above.
So...you don't sin anymore?

Not willful sins, no, those you know to be wrong, and do it anyway...

Along with the Spirit, I have many of the gifts of the Spirit, so am able to be in communication with God. I've learned to listen.

But, its funny. Even as a child, I never disobeyed my parents. But growing up, I disobeyed God. I was around 30 when I was baptized in the Holy Spirit, and my life drastically changed overnight.

 

[Yarddog]

You can think what you will.
I encourage you to get a copy of the CCC and read it all.

I have read a whole lot of it. It is quite long but anyone can access it at the Vatican site.

 

[GodsGrace101]

So the First of the Ten Commandments is not 100% true?

If you remember, I did quote Deuteronomy 6:4
There is only ONE GOD.

 

[GodsGrace101]

I have read a whole lot of it. It is quite long but anyone can access it at the Vatican site.

After that you have to read the Papal bulls, at least the important ones.

Then come the councils beginning with the Nicene Council in the year 325AD.

Then you have to be really up to date. For instance, what do you think of remarrieds receiving communion? What did the Pope say about it?