COL 2:14-17 The REAL truth from God's Word

[LoveGodsWord]

Indeed, repeating yourself without addressing the scriptures that disagree with you only proves your error...

But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions – it is by grace you have been saved Eph2:5

Absolutely. Those who continue in SIN are still dead in SIN.

ROMANS 6:1-2 [2], What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?[2], God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer in it?

Many do not know what GRACE is for..

ROMANS 1:5 [5], By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for OBEDIENCE to the faith among all nations, for his name:

ROAMNS 16:26[26], But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

ROMANS 6:17-18 [17], But God be thanked, that you were the servants of sin, but you have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. [18], Being then made free from sin, you became the servants of righteousness.

ROMANS 3:31 [31], Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Grace without obedience is not God's GRACE (James 2:18-20; 26).

It seems God's WORD disagrees with you.

It reminds me of you constantly telling me I put my own words over and above God's word when I copy/pasted rom 7:4-6 from bible gateway. You really have no qualms at all about breaking the TC do you

Yes I remember the scriptures provided that disagree with you here were ignored as well.

ROMANS 7 AND ROMANS 8

Indeed, ROMANS 7 is talking about the experience of the UNCONVERTED man and the law of SIN and DEATH (Sinful nature). It concludes in v24-25

[24], O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
[25], I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. SO THEN WITH THE MIND I MYSELF SERVE THE LAW OF GOD ; but with the flesh <G4561 Carnal mind or sinful human nature> the law of sin (not Born again).

Slavation from SIN is found in Jesus Christ (Saviour) ....

SO then with the MIND I serve the LAW of GOD.... Sound familiar?

HEBREWS 8:10 [10], For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord; I WILL PUT MY LAWS INTO THEIR MINDS AND WRITE THEM IN THEIR HEARTS: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people

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EZEKIEL 36:26-27 [26], A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you a heart of flesh. [27], And I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT WITHIN YOU, AND CAUSE YOU TO WALK IN MY STATUTES AND YOU SHALL KEEP MY JUDGEMENTS AND DO THEM.

Romans 8 continue the same...

ROMANS 8:1-14

[1], There is therefore now no condemnation to them who are in Christ Jesus, WHO WALK NOT AFTER THE FLESH <G4561 Carnal mind or sinful human nature>, BUT AFTER THE SPIRIT <Ezekiel 36:26-27; Hebrews 8:10; Jeremiah 31:31-34; NEW COVENANT PROMISE>.

[2], FOR THE LAW OF THE SPIRIT OF LIFE IN CHRIST JESUS <Ezekiel 36:26-27; Hebrews 8:10; Jeremiah 31:31-34; NEW COVENANT PROMISE> has made me free from the law of sin and death <carnal mind or sinful human nature>.

[3], For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh <G4561 Carnal mind or sinful human nature>, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh <G4561 Carnal mind or sinful human nature>: [4], That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

[5], For they that are after the flesh <G4561 Carnal mind or sinful human nature> do mind the things of the flesh <G4561 Carnal mind or sinful human nature>; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

[6], For to be carnally <G4561 same grk word used as FLESH; Carnal mind or sinful human nature> minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

[7], Because the carnal <G4561 same grk word used as FLESH; Carnal mind or sinful human nature> mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

[8], So then they that are in the flesh <G4561 same grk word used as CARNAL ; Carnal/FLESH = carnal mind or sinful human nature> cannot please God.

[9], But you are not in the flesh <G4561 same grk word used as CARNAL ; Carnal/FLESH = carnal mind or sinful human nature> , but in the Spirit <Ezekiel 36:26-27; Hebrews 8:10; Jeremiah 31:31-34; NEW COVENANT PROMISE>, if so be that the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

[10], And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

[11], But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also bring to life your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwells in you.

[12], Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh <G4561 same grk word used as CARNAL ; Carnal/FLESH = carnal mind or sinful human nature>, to live after the flesh.

[13], For if you live after the flesh <G4561 same grk word used as CARNAL ; Carnal/FLESH = carnal mind or sinful human nature>, you shall die: but if you through the Spirit do put to death the deeds of the body, you shall live.

[14], For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

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Returning back to your ROMANS 7:5-9

[5], For when we were in the flesh <G4561 same grk word used as CARNAL ; Carnal/FLESH = carnal mind or sinful human nature>, the passions of sins, which were by the law <KNOWLEDGE OF SIN>, did work in our members <SIN> to bring forth fruit unto death <ROMANS 6:23, The WAGES OF SIN is DEATH>.

[6], But now we are delivered from the law, being dead to that in which we were held; <SIN> that we should serve in newness of spirit, <NEW COVENANT PROMISE OF THE SPIRIT; Ezekiel 36:26-27; Jeremiar 31:31-33; Hebrews 8:10-12> and not in the oldness of the letter (KNOWLEDGE OF SIN).

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ROMANS 7:6 [6], But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

Q. What was it that God's LAW shows in ROMANS 7 that has bound us? Let's go back to the verse that is before....

ROMANS 7:5 [5], For when we were in the FLESH <G4561 Carnal mind or sinful human nature>, the motions of SINS, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit to death.

A. It is SIN that has bound us!


<* NOTE: the key to this verse is delivered from the law, being dead to that in which we were held. The law revived and I died... Why? Because the LAW gave a KNOWLEDDGE of SIN. It is SIN that God's LAW holds us to. It is SIN that we are delivered from not God's LAW.>

The GREEK (interlinear) translation to english of ROMANS 7:6 is...

"Now however we have been released from the law having died to that which bound us"

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CONCLUSION: It is that which binds us that we are released from. It is SIN that binds us not God's LAW. We are released from SIN and the penalty of SIN by walking in the SPIRIT of the NEW COVENANT promise by FAITH (ROMANS 8:1-4)...

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[7], What shall we say then? is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, you shall not covet.

[8], But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, worked in me all manner of covetousness. For without the law sin was dead.

[9], For I was alive apart from the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

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CONCLUSION: ROMANS 7 and ROMANS 8 are talking about the NEW COVENANT promise of SALVATION from SIN; not salvation in SIN. We are not released from God's LAW (10 Commandments) as it is the KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is. We are released from SIN and the PENALTY of SIN and the law of SIN and DEATH (7v5-25; 8v2 6v23) by walking in the Spirit of the NEW COVENANT (8v1) we do not fulfill the lusts of the flesh (SIN). If you have not died to that which holds you captive (SIN) you are not released from the LAW you are UNDER the LAW Guilty before God of SIN.

Yep God's WORD does indeed disagree with you..

 

[Marco70]

Some things baffle me. One is, how anyone, who has the law in their heart and mind can so casually break it, seemingly without a care in the world

 

[Marco70]

Indeed, repeating yourself without addressing the scriptures that disagree with you only proves your error...




Absolutely. Those who continue in SIN are still dead in SIN.

ROMANS 6:1-2 [2], What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?[2], God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer in it?

Many do not know what GRACE is for..

ROMANS 1:5 [5], By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for OBEDIENCE to the faith among all nations, for his name:

ROAMNS 16:26[26], But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

ROMANS 6:17-18 [17], But God be thanked, that you were the servants of sin, but you have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. [18], Being then made free from sin, you became the servants of righteousness.

ROMANS 3:31 [31], Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Grace without obedience is not God's GRACE (James 2:18-20; 26).

It seems God's WORD disagrees with you.



Yes I remember the scriptures provided that disagree with you here were ignored as well.

ROMANS 7 AND ROMANS 8

Indeed, ROMANS 7 is talking about the experience of the UNCONVERTED man and the law of SIN and DEATH (Sinful nature). It concludes in v24-25

[24], O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
[25], I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. SO THEN WITH THE MIND I MYSELF SERVE THE LAW OF GOD ; but with the flesh <G4561 Carnal mind or sinful human nature> the law of sin (not Born again).

Slavation from SIN is found in Jesus Christ (Saviour) ....

SO then with the MIND I serve the LAW of GOD.... Sound familiar?

HEBREWS 8:10 [10], For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord; I WILL PUT MY LAWS INTO THEIR MINDS AND WRITE THEM IN THEIR HEARTS: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people

links to..

EZEKIEL 36:26-27 [26], A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you a heart of flesh. [27], And I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT WITHIN YOU, AND CAUSE YOU TO WALK IN MY STATUTES AND YOU SHALL KEEP MY JUDGEMENTS AND DO THEM.

Romans 8 continue the same...

ROMANS 8:1-14

[1], There is therefore now no condemnation to them who are in Christ Jesus, WHO WALK NOT AFTER THE FLESH <G4561 Carnal mind or sinful human nature>, BUT AFTER THE SPIRIT <Ezekiel 36:26-27; Hebrews 8:10; Jeremiah 31:31-34; NEW COVENANT PROMISE>.

[2], FOR THE LAW OF THE SPIRIT OF LIFE IN CHRIST JESUS <Ezekiel 36:26-27; Hebrews 8:10; Jeremiah 31:31-34; NEW COVENANT PROMISE> has made me free from the law of sin and death <carnal mind or sinful human nature>.

[3], For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh <G4561 Carnal mind or sinful human nature>, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh <G4561 Carnal mind or sinful human nature>: [4], That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

[5], For they that are after the flesh <G4561 Carnal mind or sinful human nature> do mind the things of the flesh <G4561 Carnal mind or sinful human nature>; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

[6], For to be carnally <G4561 same grk word used as FLESH; Carnal mind or sinful human nature> minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

[7], Because the carnal <G4561 same grk word used as FLESH; Carnal mind or sinful human nature> mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

[8], So then they that are in the flesh <G4561 same grk word used as CARNAL ; Carnal/FLESH = carnal mind or sinful human nature> cannot please God.

[9], But you are not in the flesh <G4561 same grk word used as CARNAL ; Carnal/FLESH = carnal mind or sinful human nature> , but in the Spirit <Ezekiel 36:26-27; Hebrews 8:10; Jeremiah 31:31-34; NEW COVENANT PROMISE>, if so be that the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

[10], And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

[11], But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also bring to life your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwells in you.

[12], Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh <G4561 same grk word used as CARNAL ; Carnal/FLESH = carnal mind or sinful human nature>, to live after the flesh.

[13], For if you live after the flesh <G4561 same grk word used as CARNAL ; Carnal/FLESH = carnal mind or sinful human nature>, you shall die: but if you through the Spirit do put to death the deeds of the body, you shall live.

[14], For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

..................

Returning back to your ROMANS 7:5-9

[5], For when we were in the flesh <G4561 same grk word used as CARNAL ; Carnal/FLESH = carnal mind or sinful human nature>, the passions of sins, which were by the law <KNOWLEDGE OF SIN>, did work in our members <SIN> to bring forth fruit unto death <ROMANS 6:23, The WAGES OF SIN is DEATH>.

[6], But now we are delivered from the law, being dead to that in which we were held; <SIN> that we should serve in newness of spirit, <NEW COVENANT PROMISE OF THE SPIRIT; Ezekiel 36:26-27; Jeremiar 31:31-33; Hebrews 8:10-12> and not in the oldness of the letter (KNOWLEDGE OF SIN).

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ROMANS 7:6 [6], But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

Q. What was it that God's LAW shows in ROMANS 7 that has bound us? Let's go back to the verse that is before....

ROMANS 7:5 [5], For when we were in the FLESH <G4561 Carnal mind or sinful human nature>, the motions of SINS, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit to death.

A. It is SIN that has bound us!


<* NOTE: the key to this verse is delivered from the law, being dead to that in which we were held. The law revived and I died... Why? Because the LAW gave a KNOWLEDDGE of SIN. It is SIN that God's LAW holds us to. It is SIN that we are delivered from not God's LAW.>

The GREEK (interlinear) translation to english of ROMANS 7:6 is...

"Now however we have been released from the law having died to that which bound us"

................

CONCLUSION: It is that which binds us that we are released from. It is SIN that binds us not God's LAW. We are released from SIN and the penalty of SIN by walking in the SPIRIT of the NEW COVENANT promise by FAITH (ROMANS 8:1-4)...

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[7], What shall we say then? is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, you shall not covet.

[8], But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, worked in me all manner of covetousness. For without the law sin was dead.

[9], For I was alive apart from the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

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CONCLUSION: ROMANS 7 and ROMANS 8 are talking about the NEW COVENANT promise of SALVATION from SIN; not salvation in SIN. We are not released from God's LAW (10 Commandments) as it is the KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is. We are released from SIN and the PENALTY of SIN and the law of SIN and DEATH (7v5-25; 8v2 6v23) by walking in the Spirit of the NEW COVENANT (8v1) we do not fulfill the lusts of the flesh (SIN). If you have not died to that which holds you captive (SIN) you are not released from the LAW you are UNDER the LAW Guilty before God of SIN.

Yep God's WORD does indeed disagree with you..

We have already irrefutably established you do not understand the message contained in the letter you constantly quote. But as you are able to so casually break the law Christians have in their mind and heart, I am not in the least surprised. You quote the bible without understanding of it

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Some things baffle me. One is, how anyone, who has the law in their heart and mind can so casually break it, seemingly without a care in the world

1 JOHN 3:6-10 [6], Whosoever abides in him sins not: whosoever sins has not seen him, neither known him. [7], Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. [8], He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. [9], Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin; for his nature remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. [10], In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.

 

[Marco70]

1 JOHN 3:6-10 [6], Whosoever abides in him sins not: whosoever sins has not seen him, neither known him. [7], Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. [8], He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. [9], Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin; for his nature remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. [10], In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.

Well as you have constantly borne false witness against me, seemingly without conscience, I doubt it is advisable for you to quote the above, with your understanding of it.
However, your understanding of scripture, has, as I keep telling you been irrefutably shown to be false

 

[LoveGodsWord]

We have already irrefutably established you do not understand the message contained in the letter you constantly quote. But as you are able to so casually break the law Christians have in their mind and heart, I am not in the least surprised. You quote the bible without understanding of it

1 JOHN 2:3-4 [3], And by this we know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. [4], He that says, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

 

[Marco70]

1 JOHN 2:3-4 [3], And by this we know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. [4], He that says, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Why do you keep condemning yourself?

 

[Marco70]

Christ's law is fulfilled by carrying each others burdens(Gal6:2) It is NOT(NOT) fulfilled by demanding of others what you do not demand of yourself. Just the opposite

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Well as you have constantly borne false witness against me, seemingly without conscience, I doubt it is advisable for you to quote the above, with your understanding of it.
However, your understanding of scripture, has, as I keep telling you been irrefutably shown to be false

Sharing God's WORD with you is not brearing false witness against you. It is God's WORD and God's WORD is true. If you feel convicted by God's Spirit. Harden not your heart but turn to him who calls you in love to love another.

PSALMS 119:160 Your word is true from the beginning: and every one of your righteous judgments endures forever.

JOHN 17:17 Sanctify them through your truth: your word is truth.

ROMANS 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That you might be justified in your sayings, and might overcome when you are judged.

Only God's WORD is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it over the traditions and teachings of men.

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

 

[Marco70]

The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practise what they preach. 4 They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
Matt23:2-4

No carrying each others burdens in the above, Christ's law is being ignored

 

[Marco70]

Sharing God's WORD with you is not brearing false witness against you. .

Trying to be economical with the truth/evading the issue. Oh well. Telling me I am putting my own words above God's word, when I simply quote the bible to you, is lying/bearing false witness. I cannot understand, how any born again Christian could repeatedly do that, apparently without conscience.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practise what they preach. 4 They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
Matt23:2-4

No carrying each others burdens in the above, Christ's law is being ignored

JOHN 3:3-7 [3], Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. [4], Nicodemus said unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? [5], Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. [6], That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. [7], Marvel not that I said unto you, You must be born again.

1 JOHN 3:8-10 [8], He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. [9], Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin; for his nature remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. [10], In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.

................

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Trying to be economical with the truth/evading the issue. Oh well. Telling me I am putting my own words above God's word, when I simply quote the bible to you, is lying/bearing false witness. I cannot understand, how any born again Christian could repeatedly do that, apparently without conscience.

Then please feel free to prove it and reply to the posts and scripture that disagree with you. It is God's WORD not mine. So far you have only ignored the scripture posted to you that disagree with you and simply cut and paste what you posted earlier

 

[Marco70]

JOHN 3:3-7 [3], Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. [4], .

Amen
The law is then placed within you God desires you to follow. It is in your heart and mind. So casually breaking it, apparently without a care in the world, is a Christianity I fail to understand

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Amen
The law is then placed within you God desires you to follow. It is in your heart and mind. So casually breaking it, apparently without a care in the world, is a Christianity I fail to understand

Indeed, why do you break God's 4th Commandment?

 

[Marco70]

The please feel free to prove it and reply to the posts and scripture that disagree with you. It is God's WORD not mine. So far you have only ignored the scripture posted to you that disagree with you and simply cut and paste what you posted earlier

Your words say it all sadly. It is as I have always said, and sadly, you endorse well my words. Thos who most earnestly insist you must obey the law to attain heaven/remain in a saved state are the most guilty of breaking it. And they can do it, seemingly without a care in the world.
Goodness knows how

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Your words say it all sadly. It is as I have always said, and sadly, you endorse well my words. Thos who most earnestly insist you must obey the law to attain heaven/remain in a saved state are the most guilty of breaking it. And they can do it, seemingly without a care in the world.
Goodness knows how

Why? Because you are asked to respond to scripture that disagrees with you. Amazing.

I have never said to you or anyone here that you get salvation from the law. Your making it up again. This is sad for you.

 

[Marco70]

Indeed, why do you break God's 4th Commandment?

Can't discuss that, for you refuse to respond to the point when I do. Oh go on then. I have no consciousness of sin whatsoever by failing to observe a set Saturday Sabbath. Which means, if(if) you understood the NC, you would have to consider me not saved, however, from what you have previously stated that is not your view. No wonder you ask such questions, not having a proper understanding of the core foundation upon which the NC stands

 

[Marco70]

Why? Because you are asked to respond to scripture that disagrees with you. Amazing

People who can so casually break the moral law of God, and apparently without conscience will never understand spiritual truth. Hence, irrefutable proof has been given you, you fail to understand the scriptures you quote

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Can't discuss that, for you refuse to respond to the point when I do. Oh go on then. I have no consciousness of sin whatsoever by failing to observe a set Saturday Sabbath. Which means, if(if) you understood the NC, you would have to consider me not saved, however, from what you have previously stated that is not your view. No wonder you ask such questions, not having a proper understanding of the core foundation upon which the NC stands

Ok my friend let me know when you have some scripture to share. Time for me to leave for a while. You are free to believe as you wish. Only God's WORD is true and we should BELIEVE and follow him who calls us in love to love another.

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).