Timelapse of the sun proves flat earth

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I’ve asked this question before, but I never got a reply, so I’ll ask it again, here:

If the Earth has a giant, impenetrable dome over it, where do meteors keep coming from?

Heck, what are meteors if space doesn’t even really exist like we know it?
Well, we could also ask, in the case of an earth, enclosed by a dome... what are stars, what are planets.... as well as what are meteorites..

The problem with your question is that you are combining two different realities... In the globe model, we are told that planets are large objects orbiting the sun as we are and that stars are just other suns... light years away. The meteors, we are told, are chunks of space rock that come into our atmosphere.

Now, the FE model, with a dome, has a total different reality. If it is in parallel with the Book of Enoch... the stars and planets are "luminaries" not planets, not other suns and not light years away. What then are shooting stars and meteors? They are now something that is from a different paradigm. They can not possibly have any correlation with the globe and heliocentric model.

That would be like saying "How come Luke Sky-walker never talked to Mr. Spock."

Or

Why didn't Captain Kirk have a light saber?
 
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Well, we could also ask, in the case of an earth, enclosed by a dome... what are stars, what are planets.... as well as what are meteorites..

The problem with your question is that you are combining two different realities... In the globe model, we are told that planets are large objects orbiting the sun as we are and that stars are just other suns... light years away. The meteors, we are told, are chunks of space rock that come into our atmosphere.

Now, the FE model, with a dome, has a total different reality. If it is in parallel with the Book of Enoch... the stars and planets are "luminaries" not planets, not other suns and not light years away. What then are shooting stars and meteors? They are now something that is from a different paradigm. They can not possibly have any correlation with the globe and heliocentric model.

That would be like saying "How come Luke Sky-walker never talked to Mr. Spock."

Or

Why didn't Captain Kirk have a light saber?

Some meteors make it to the ground and are recovered. How do you explain those, according to your reality?
 
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Some meteors make it to the ground and are recovered. How do you explain those, according to your reality?
How do we know that the rocks they find are actually from the sky? How do we prove that these are, in fact, meteors.

Even the large craters on the earth... are void of any large rock or solid piece that could have been responsible for the size of the crater.

What is there to prove that these items streaking across the sky are not military things gone wrong or right even?

Or, do we just believe because they tell us that's what they are?
 
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How do we know that the rocks they find are actually from the sky? How do we prove that these are, in fact, meteors.

People have been able to track down meteors that have made it to the ground.

What is there to prove that these items streaking across the sky are not military things gone wrong or right even?

Or, do we just believe because they tell us that's what they are?

Now it's up to someone to prove what something isn't? If they don't, then do you just assume something is whatever you think it might be? That's not much of a way of doing research.
 
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People have been able to track down meteors that have made it to the ground.



Now it's up to someone to prove what something isn't? If they don't, then do you just assume something is whatever you think it might be? That's not much of a way of doing research.
I think it is up to us to search for the truth.. either way... We have to ask.. is that the real rock that came from the sky? What was the real source?

The answer, the truth.. is all we are all looking for... it is not up to me to prove that they don't come from space.... nor you to prove that they do.. they either do, or don't...

Like I said.. I am not a FE believer.. but as someone looking for reasons to believe one view or the other.... to me.......... Meteors could be explained, when all is known, to be possible in both models. Meteors don't prove Flat or globe.

Several realities are possible with both models.. we only believe the information to prove the view we hold to be true due to everything we have been taught as part of that view.

To me.. meteors don't prove either.
 
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How do we know that the rocks they find are actually from the sky? How do we prove that these are, in fact, meteors.
The biggest clue is that the meteors are often abundant in elements that are extremely rare on Earth. That's part of the reason that mining them is such an attractive prospect.
Even the large craters on the earth... are void of any large rock or solid piece that could have been responsible for the size of the crater.
Why would the rock still be there, whole? The sort of destructive force that could create a crater miles long is obviously going to annihilate the rock itself.
What is there to prove that these items streaking across the sky are not military things gone wrong or right even?
The fact that people have reported them for centuries, long before such technology was even conceivable.
 
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The biggest clue is that the meteors are often abundant in elements that are extremely rare on Earth. That's part of the reason that mining them is such an attractive prospect.

Most meteorites are Iron/Nickel... I am in the mining industry and this is not a rare mineral. They may be higher grade than some deposits, but they are not rare metals. Iron is everywhere. Nickel is not rare either.

I have mentioned before that I grew up on a lake... When we were working on fixing up our shoreline.. we found a very interesting rock.. about the size of a 5 pin bowling ball and very heavy for it's size. It was all pitted with holes and looked like it could be a meteor... It would of worked for any B movie for sure... We asked a geologist and they said that the earth is full of rocks that could pass as meteors... just that there are many ways that these can form on the earth all by natural causes. There is just no way to tell..

Saw a show.. "Meteor Hunters" where they walked through desert and dry areas and anything that looked like magnetite or a high iron pebble.. they touched with their magic wands.. a magnet on the end of a stick.. if it was magnetic... it was magically deemed a meteor... That wasn't even good for a couple of handfuls of popcorn.


Why would the rock still be there, whole? The sort of destructive force that could create a crater miles long is obviously going to annihilate the rock itself.

That's just what I mean... how would we know.. should it be there... should it not? You're talking about a solid object that supposedly just exploded into our atmosphere at 18 km per second and didn't break up... now it's going to disintegrate on impact? or... is it?

One place, not sure the area... near a large creater and they show a rock about the size of a basketball... supposedly that is the meteor and supposedly it made a crater several miles wide.

Who do you believe? Is it all guess work? Or is all this assumptions and the craters may have been made by eruptions from under the surface... it just fits the story line so nobody questions it.

The fact that people have reported them for centuries, long before such technology was even conceivable.
Again, is this truth or based on conjecture... the stories I mean... others on this forum would scream "evidence" and want you to produce the articles and proof.. I'm not going to go that route...

Just.. suffice to say... we don't really have solid proof that it backs a globe or a FE model....
 
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Oh man... your coming into this late.The biggest thing, for me, is the lack of evidence of any curvature... check out this first.. then come back.

Yeah, I'm late. In fact I rarely participate in these types of threads at all, but I was intrigued when you said a spherical earth has problems.

But while I'm here, let me ask you. Why not go up in a private plane and fly in one direction until you end up back where you started? Wouldn't that prove it to you once and for all (unless you're in the conspiracy too ;-)?
 
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Just.. suffice to say... we don't really have solid proof that it backs a globe or a FE model....

Even people actually going up into orbit and beyond and seeing for themselves? As long as you insist upon labeling all such evidence as fake, you'll be closed off to knowing the truth.
 
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Yeah, I'm late. In fact I rarely participate in these types of threads at all, but I was intrigued when you said a spherical earth has problems.

But while I'm here, let me ask you. Why not go up in a private plane and fly in one direction until you end up back where you started? Wouldn't that prove it to you once and for all (unless you're in the conspiracy too ;-)?

Oh man, you really are late to this discussion (which has been going on for months over multiple threads). You're in for quite a ride, my man! You could start by going back to the beginning of this thread.
 
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Oh man, you really are late to this discussion (which has been going on for months over multiple threads). You're in for quite a ride, my man! You could start by going back to the beginning of this thread.
If I go back to the beginning, will my question be answered? (I asked it in another thread and was ignored.) Why not just answer the question - if you want to know the truth for yourself.
 
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If I go back to the beginning, will my question be answered? (I asked it in another thread and was ignored.) Why not just answer the question - if you want to know the truth for yourself.

As for the airplane question you asked, I think the answer would be that if you flew in a straight line, you would run into Antarctica where there is a wall of ice. You wouldn't be allowed to go any further because their are government troops there keeping people away, and they're there to keep people from discovering the truth about the shape of the earth.
 
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As for the airplane question you asked, I think the answer would be that if you flew in a straight line, you would run into Antarctica where there is a wall of ice. You wouldn't be allowed to go any further because their are government troops there keeping people away, and they're there to keep people from discovering the truth about the shape of the earth.
Thank you for your straightforward answer.
 
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Thank you for your straightforward answer.

Of course, what I said was what I believe the answer would be based on what I've heard so far. He can give you his own answer if he wants to.
 
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Most meteorites are Iron/Nickel... I am in the mining industry and this is not a rare mineral. They may be higher grade than some deposits, but they are not rare metals. Iron is everywhere. Nickel is not rare either.

There's a difference between the metals we find in meteors and the ones we find on

Chemical Composition of Meteorites

Saw a show.. "Meteor Hunters" where they walked through desert and dry areas and anything that looked like magnetite or a high iron pebble.. they touched with their magic wands.. a magnet on the end of a stick.. if it was magnetic... it was magically deemed a meteor... That wasn't even good for a couple of handfuls of popcorn.

As near as I can tell, no such show exists. Sounds like an odd thing to base an entire show around, anyway.

That's just what I mean... how would we know.. should it be there... should it not? You're talking about a solid object that supposedly just exploded into our atmosphere at 18 km per second and didn't break up... now it's going to disintegrate on impact? or... is it?

Some meteors break up in the atmosphere, some make it to Earth. Just depends on the meteor.

One place, not sure the area... near a large creater and they show a rock about the size of a basketball... supposedly that is the meteor and supposedly it made a crater several miles wide.

Pics? A link? Anything?

Who do you believe? Is it all guess work? Or is all this assumptions and the craters may have been made by eruptions from under the surface... it just fits the story line so nobody questions it.

An eruption? Caused by what? Why would that make a crater form and not a volcano?

Speaking of, how do volcanoes even work on a flat earth with no core? Where's all the magma coming from?

Again, is this truth or based on conjecture... the stories I mean... others on this forum would scream "evidence" and want you to produce the articles and proof.. I'm not going to go that route...

Conjecture? People have been observing comets and meteors for centuries. It's documented. They wrote about them. They can't very well all be some secret military experiment if people were seeing them before the military could even hope to do such experiments.
 
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Yeah, I'm late. In fact I rarely participate in these types of threads at all, but I was intrigued when you said a spherical earth has problems.

But while I'm here, let me ask you. Why not go up in a private plane and fly in one direction until you end up back where you started? Wouldn't that prove it to you once and for all (unless you're in the conspiracy too ;-)?
I am really sorry Dysert, but that is one of the most basic questions that people ask when they have no idea about the FE model.

So, here are some spoilers..

According to the FE model.. (which I am still not totally sold on)

You can circumnavigate the FE model in a plane or a boat.
The FE model is like a round plate. North is in the center and what they say is a continent "Antarctica"(the south) is actually an ice rim around the edge of the plate.
You cannot see the curvature from a commercial airliner ( They used to say that you could see it at 35,000 feet but,since so many people are checking it now... they say 65,000 feet)
Ships do not go over the horizon. You can bring them back into plain view with a good set of binoculars or a telescope.
You cannot fall off the edge as there is an ice wall around the edge of the circular flat earth model and the edge is beyond that in extreme cold and perilous conditions... research Admiral Byrd's "Operation Deep Freeze" and "Operation High Jump".
The sun and moon orbit above the FE model and continually spiral in.. for summer in the Northern regions and spiral outward for winter in the North. So, seasons and such are covered.
Gravity is not needed.. well the "theoretical" gravity that is supposedly a property of all massive objects. There is just down.. and density, buoyancy and such control which falls floats or flies.
The sun and moon are much much closer and smaller...
If Coriolis effect is a factor in objects that are moving in one direction through the air... like a bullet... then it must also affect an aircraft.. which it does not.
 
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