flat earth debate

[Rick Otto]

Too bad the "grand all revealing globe proving tour" doesn't go ACROSS the entire fake "continent" to actually PROVE there is no ice wall. I wonder why the globe is so difficult to prove? We have tons of "theories" like the big bang, evolution, GRAVITY, Relativity, dark matter, dark energy, multi-verses, the theory of everything and a whole smorgasbord of "ideas" and "10,000 page "explanations". Phenomenal.

All still unproven "theories".
You act as if they are laws

Uh-oh

Exactly the way priests of science and state would have us respond to anything that challenges their supremacy.

 

[Rick Otto]

You need to stop watching videos. Seriously.

You need to get serious about the books you allegedly read and the sources you've been taught to trust.
Start here to get your first clue:
"War Is A Racket" -by Marine Major General Smedley Butler.
Then you can check the whitewashed, sanitized admission of the "The Business Plot" on highly censored Wikipedia. But don't look for the truth on "shady" sources because your censors say not to.
If you believe the truth, you'll get the same snark and glib short shrift you've been handing out.

 

[Rick Otto]

Apart from aircraft flight times, Southern Hemisphere stars, the visible curve of the earth, the sun actually setting, and pictures from space.

None of which you address the FE challenges to.
Look 'em up yourself.
I did.

 

[Rick Otto]

Oh sure - they're just all part of the conspiracy too. Just add the tour operators and flight crews to the millions of others who are propping this conspiracy up.

get a clue.

 

[Rick Otto]

My wife's cousin claims that she has flown over Antarctica and that she has been on the continent. I never took her for a liar. I don't know how she faked all those photos.

That settles it.
We can all go back to the game forum.

 

[Rick Otto]

Not so.

The basic argument of atheism is ‘because Enki’.

Check and mate.

So that's your conspiracy theory.
I wondered what in heaven's name you might be doing here.

 

[JacksBratt]

You need to stop watching videos. Seriously.

LOL, no I mean really seriously LOL....

You have got to be kidding me....

There is now, in my mind, absolutely no confusion as to why you are so stuck on thinking all of this is conspiracy theories.....

I cannot believe that, now, in 2018, people still think that YouTube is for cat video's, skateboard fails and dubious sourced video presentations.

But, I guess that's the best argument some of you have... that it was a YouTube video.

Time to step it up and get with the times. YouTube can be useful in fixing your car, your sink... well almost anything really.. AND for presenting new research from credible sources. ESPECIALLY if it goes against academia and the hive mind.

It is up to you to check out the credentials and source.... But, you cannot dismiss everything and use "duh, it was on YouTube" as a valid argument.

Lastly.... EVERYONE... 100 percent of all people out there who are FE believers... started with "YA right Bra... the earth is flat LOL smoke another one".

I've given all that I have to offer here. I'll hang around and watch from time to time.

If you have anything new, on either view... I would love to see it..

Cheers Guys and God Bless.

 

[patrick jane]

You need to get serious about the books you allegedly read and the sources you've been taught to trust.
Start here to get your first clue:
"War Is A Racket" -by Marine Major General Smedley Butler.
Then you can check the whitewashed, sanitized admission of the "The Business Plot" on highly censored Wikipedia. But don't look for the truth on "shady" sources because your censors say not to.
If you believe the truth, you'll get the same snark and glib short shrift you've been handing out.

There's always Snopes to to protect us all from the fake conspiracy theories. They always tell the truth, dontcha know? NOT.

 

[Aldebaran]

The ones who aren't, of which we have no idea, (do you think all Masons advertise it like Buzz?), are still in on the deception, the "game". Make no mistake, it's all a show. "Space may be the final frontier, but it's made in a Hollywood basement."

Interesting. They're all Masons, except for the ones who aren't who actually are but just aren't advertising it, but are still in on the deception. I'd like to see some solid evidence from you about that.

As for this whole "deception" that you claim NASA has constructed to make us all believe that aliens can invade us, you might want to take a look at how NASA has viewed the possibility of aliens. The FE people think NASA is trying to make us believe they exist, while at the same time, there are other conspiracy theorists who believe there are aliens and that NASA is covering it up: NASA Cover Up? City Found On Mars, Conspiracy Theorists Say

Here's another one: Scientist Claims 'Alien Footprint Fossil Discovery' Is Proof of NASA Mars Cover-Up

Perhaps you guys ought to get together and battle it out as to whether NASA is trying to deceive us into thinking there are aliens, or if they're covering up that idea.

 

[Aldebaran]

You just "think" they don't "get along". Who owns and controls the world? Presidents? Politicians? Sapce Programs? Smell the coffee, it's getting late in the day.

Of course they get along! That explains why they form militarys and drop bombs on each other. It's called "cooperation".

 

[Aldebaran]

Problem is, like Satan, we won't know when they are mixing truth and fiction and blur the lines so we cannot tell.

Take the Elon Musk Heavy rocket launch for example.... I would have been more believable if they had of done a unedited from start to finish, video.

Don't you remember me posting about 4 videos for you from Youtube that amateur videographers took of the launch that were unedited from start to finish?

 

[patrick jane]

Interesting. They're all Masons, except for the ones who aren't who actually are but just aren't advertising it, but are still in on the deception. I'd like to see some solid evidence from you about that.

As for this whole "deception" that you claim NASA has constructed to make us all believe that aliens can invade us, you might want to take a look at how NASA has viewed the possibility of aliens. The FE people think NASA is trying to make us believe they exist, while at the same time, there are other conspiracy theorists who believe there are aliens and that NASA is covering it up: NASA Cover Up? City Found On Mars, Conspiracy Theorists Say

Here's another one: Scientist Claims 'Alien Footprint Fossil Discovery' Is Proof of NASA Mars Cover-Up

Perhaps you guys ought to get together and battle it out as to whether NASA is trying to deceive us into thinking there are aliens, or if they're covering up that idea.

Show me that the Chinese astro nots and ANYBODY else you want to "speculate" have seen the curvature of the earth first. Your only "act" so far is to attempt to discredit the flat earth truth by marginalizing flat earth folks and conjuring imaginary scenarios to try proving your weak and lame assertions.

Let's stick to the real topic if you can manage that. Prove your claim that astro nots from ANY country have seen the curvature. How high do we have to be to see it? I just heard 60 miles high from nasa. Do you concur, or do you have a different altitude in your concocted scenario? Prove to me that your boys and girls have been high enough. Photo shopped or CGI or doctored images won't be accepted.

 

[Aldebaran]

Apart from aircraft flight times, Southern Hemisphere stars, the visible curve of the earth, the sun actually setting, and pictures from space.

And launches of Space Shuttles, satellites and space probes, GPS, weather satellite images, eye witness testimony from astronauts who have actually been in orbit and beyond, etc.

 

[Aldebaran]

Let's stick the real topic if you can manage that. Prove your claim that astro nots from ANY country have seen the curvature.

What proof would you find acceptable?
If they said it themselves, you'd call them liars. If they showed you photos they actually took with their own cameras, you'd say they were faked. If the space agency they worked for testified to you that the astronauts were telling the truth, you'd say they were in on the conspiracy.

So I'll let you first tell me what proof you'd accept. But I won't hold my breath waiting for a response. I don't expect one.

 

[patrick jane]

What proof would you find acceptable?
If they said it themselves, you'd call them liars. If they showed you photos they actually took with their own cameras, you'd say they were faked. If the space agency they worked for testified to you that the astronauts were telling the truth, you'd say they were in on the conspiracy.

So I'll let you first tell me what proof you'd accept. But I won't hold my breath waiting for a response. I don't expect one.

See what you can find. Should I do that for you too?

 

[Aldebaran]

See what you can find. Should I do that for you too?

I figured I should ask you first since people have been showing you and your friends all kinds of evidence of different things already. So far, the 3 responses I gave you as examples have been all you've come up with. Those, along with mockery. I thought maybe I should at least ask you what type of evidence you would want before wasting any more of my time. So, what kind of evidence would you find acceptable?

 

[patrick jane]

I figured I should ask you first since people have been showing you and your friends all kinds of evidence of different things already. So far, the 3 responses I gave you as examples have been all you've come up with. Those, along with mockery. I thought maybe I should at least ask you what type of evidence you would want before wasting any more of my time. So, what kind of evidence would you find acceptable?

Oh, forgive me. You WEREN'T and haven't been mocking me or flat earth at all.

 

[Trogdor the Burninator]

get a clue.

I won't find one in your responses, that's for sure...

 

[Aldebaran]

Oh, forgive me. You WEREN'T and haven't been mocking me or flat earth at all.

Uh, the evidence you would accept please? Waiting for it.....

 

[patrick jane]

Don't you remember me posting about 4 videos for you from Youtube that amateur videographers took of the launch that were unedited from start to finish?

You seem to have edited your original post to me without tagging me like some here reply to flat earthers without quoting the post they are replying to. Aliens are simply part of the Vatican and NWO's conspiracy that suck SOME people into believing there are real intelligent beings from elsewhere in the "vast universe".

It's just a distraction from reality that some folks fall for. There are no other "planets" with life out there anywhere. As far as dinosaurs, they're mostly fake too. Not a bone was ever dug up in the history of flat earth until the mid to late 1800s. Fake. Nothing is "headed to Mars" and we know nothing about the "planet"