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No, I'm not pretending, have you seen the scriptures I posted and interpreted in the Biblical thread? I'm completely sincere in this possibility. I'm simply never going to be 100% certain I'm on a flying spinning ball for the rest of my life, unless I get the moon.

Yeah, I've seen them. You keep copying and pasting them whenever I ask you something. One of them has to do with the the 2 lights God put in the sky, one for day and one for night. So why is the one for night (the moon) seen in the day half the time?

And....if you're not pretending, then why were you "optimistic" by my post that said you were pretending?
 
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They "train" our children to question nothing.

My scientific education taught me to always be skeptical and to question everything. For forty years I taught my students the same thing. It is too bad that same skepticism was not a part of your education.
 
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Wait, I think I get it now. You're just pretending to be a flat earther and presenting all these crazy claims in order to actually discredit the FE viewpoint. Am I right?
That the thought that this is an elaborate prank has crossed my mind.
 
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My scientific education taught me to always be skeptical and to question everything. For forty years I taught my students the same thing. It is too bad that same skepticism was not a part of your education.
It's too bad you were a teacher, that explains your disgust of possibly being wrong about everything you hold dear. The spinning ball flying, zooming millions of mph through endless space, you are forced into trying to reconcile the big bang and evolution is possible and still done by God, (which means God waited on day one for about 10 billion years and only created the heaven first, plus the sun and moon created on DAY FOUR), A dozen or so "THEORIES", including but not limited to : fake magical gravity, several other "forces" that can't be explained, dark energy, dark matter, evolution, big bang, chaos theory, (but we never run into anything because God ensured the correct tilt, orbit and path and that space would be clear for our "solar system" for BILLIONS of years.)

We also have the strong delusion in the world that started 70 years ago with space and alien movies and propaganda, whereby the majority of people fantasize about traveling "deep space", travelling the stars. seeding other planets, intelligent life everywhere out there, and becoming one with the living universe. That's what our children's children's children's children will be focused on. With A. I. everything will be perfect, simply say "OK Google" and the prepared correct thinking will be ingrained in your heads. That's your model of God's creation and you're stickin' to it. I get it.
 
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It's too bad you were a teacher, that explains your disgust of possibly being wrong about everything you hold dear. The spinning ball flying, zooming millions of mph through endless space, you are forced into trying to reconcile the big bang and evolution is possible and still done by God, (which means God waited on day one for about 10 billion years and only created the heaven first, plus the sun and moon created on DAY FOUR), A dozen or so "THEORIES", including but not limited to : fake magical gravity, several other "forces" that can't be explained, dark energy, dark matter, evolution, big bang, chaos theory, (but we never run into anything because God ensured the correct tilt, orbit and path and that space would be clear for our "solar system" for BILLIONS of years.)

We also have the strong delusion in the world that started 70 years ago with space and alien movies and propaganda, whereby the majority of people fantasize about traveling "deep space", travelling the stars. seeding other planets, intelligent life everywhere out there, and becoming one with the living universe. That's what our children's children's children's children will be focused on. With A. I. everything will be perfect, simply say "OK Google" and the prepared correct thinking will be ingrained in your heads. That's your model of God's creation and you're stickin' to it. I get it.

This is the largest strawman argument I've seen you post so far.

Let me show you something and you tell me if it's real or not:
 

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That's your model of God's creation and you're stickin' to it. I get it.

As long as the evidence supports the theories, I am sticking with them. so you are right about that.
 
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We also have the strong delusion in the world that started 70 years ago with space and alien movies and propaganda, whereby the majority of people fantasize about traveling "deep space", travelling the stars.

Patrick:
I showed you an image in post 285. It was taken by an amateur astronomer. It's a galaxy outside of our own. Would you mind telling me if you think it must be fake? NASA didn't take the picture. It was taken by Chris and Dawn Schur from Payson, Arizona. Do you consider them to be liars because they can show you something that doesn't line up with the earth being flat and a dome over the earth that's no higher than 3,000 miles?
 
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This is the largest strawman argument I've seen you post so far.

Let me show you something and you tell me if it's real or not:
Yes, I believe something like that is in the firmament. If you know how to inspect that image to detect ANY changes, whether CGI, artists rendering, photo shop or graphic artist you will find out that the exact image you show there does not look like that. Is that from FAKE Hubble?
 
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Yes, I believe something like that is in the firmament. If you know how to inspect that image to detect ANY changes, whether CGI, artists rendering, photo shop or graphic artist you will find out that the exact image you show there does not look like that. Is that from FAKE Hubble?

Read post 287. I was writing it at the same time you wrote yours. All the information is there.
 
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Patrick:
I showed you an image in post 285. It was taken by an amateur astronomer. It's a galaxy outside of our own. Would you mind telling me if you think it must be fake? NASA didn't take the picture. It was taken by Chris and Dawn Schur from Payson, Arizona. Do you consider them to be liars because they can show you something that doesn't line up with the earth being flat and a dome over the earth that's no higher than 3,000 miles?
I replied before you told me it was taken by an amateur. That image in no way means that he sees ANOTHER "galaxy".
 
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Flat Earth | SpaceX BUSTED! What Shape is the Earth from the Same Rocket?
From Video Description : Totally Busted! Same Rocket, Same Altitude but two different cameras! What shape is the earth when you view it through a fish eye lens? Watch and see! The earth is not a spinning ball flying through space. Yes, I agree the distortion from wide angle lenses messes up everything. The Red Bull footage is the same, however, they use it as proof of curvature which would make Arizona cover almost 1/4 or more of the earth if it was true.




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Then what is it? If you are more familiar with celestial objects than the person who took the picture, you'll have more knowledge than they or I (or anyone else) does.
You need to learn about symbolism in the bible: How can I recognize and understand biblical symbolism?
Nasa certainly doesn't know. Neither does Fake Hubble or expert astronomers. It is a heavenly host or a conglomeration of such. I'm afraid only God know since He named ever star, which some say are angels, and it's not flat earthers who say that.
 
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Nasa certainly doesn't know. Neither does Fake Hubble or expert astronomers. It is a heavenly host or a conglomeration of such. I'm afraid only God know since He named ever star, which some say are angels, and it's not flat earthers who say that.

Can you please explain post #225????
 
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I'm still waiting for a flat earth explanation if this on another thread:


Around the summer solstice (approximately 21 June in the Northern Hemisphere and 22 December in the Southern Hemisphere), the sun is visible for the full 24 hours, given fair weather. The number of days per year with potential midnight sun increases the closer towards either pole one goes. Although approximately defined by the polar circles, in practice the midnight sun can be seen as much as 55 miles (90 km) outside the polar circle, as described below, and the exact latitudes of the farthest reaches of midnight sun depend on topography and vary slightly year-to-year.

Because there are no permanent human settlements south of the Antarctic Circle, apart from research stations, the countries and territories whose populations experience the midnight sun are limited to those crossed by the Arctic Circle: the Canadian Yukon, Nunavut, and Northwest Territories, and the nations of Iceland, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark (Greenland), Russia, and the State of Alaska in the United States. A quarter of Finland's territory lies north of the Arctic Circle, and at the country's northernmost point the sun does not set at all for 60 days during summer. In Svalbard, Norway, the northernmost inhabited region of Europe, there is no sunset from approximately 19 April to 23 August. The extreme sites are the poles, where the sun can be continuously visible for half the year. The North Pole has midnight sun for 6 months from late March to late September.

The opposite phenomenon, polar night, occurs in winter, when the sun stays below the horizon throughout the day.

Since the axial tilt of the Earth is considerable (approximately 23 degrees 27 minutes), the sun does not set at high latitudes in local summer.[1] The sun remains continuously visible for one day during the summer solstice at the polar circle, for several weeks only 100 km (62 mi) closer to the pole, and for six months at the pole. At extreme latitudes, the midnight sun is usually referred to as polar day.

At the poles themselves, the sun rises and sets only once each year on the equinox. During the six months that the sun is above the horizon, it spends the days continuously moving in circles around the observer, gradually spiralling higher and reaching its highest circuit of the sky at the summer solstice.

Because of atmospheric refraction, and also because the sun is a disc rather than a point, the midnight sun may be experienced at latitudes slightly below the polar circle, though not exceeding one degree (depending on local conditions). For example, Iceland is known for its midnight sun, even though most of it (Grímsey is the exception) is slightly south of the Arctic Circle. For the same reasons, the period of sunlight at the poles is slightly longer than six months. Even the northern extremities of Scotland (and places at similar latitudes, such as St. Petersburg) experience twilight throughout the night in the northern sky at around the summer solstice.

Observers at heights appreciably above sea level can experience extended periods of midnight sun as a result of the "dip" of the horizon viewed from altitude.
The "midnight sun in the far southern "pole" (there is no pole") area is a farce. It's never been recorded properly on video and it's misinformation. It's up you to find footage and prove it and it's veracity. I have countless video proofs of flat earth like ships that DON'T disappear under the Fake "curvature". You need to search each of your issues by typing in "flat earth youtube" after EVERY search. Otherwise you'll always find Fake globe proof.
 
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The "midnight sun in the far southern "pole" (there is no pole") area is a farce.

Trust me, there is a South Pole. People have been there.

And visitors to Antarctica have taken lots of good photos of the midnight sun. See here, for example. And here's a great video:

 
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The "midnight sun in the far southern "pole" (there is no pole") area is a farce. It's never been recorded properly on video and it's misinformation. It's up you to find footage and prove it and it's veracity. I have countless video proofs of flat earth like ships that DON'T disappear under the Fake "curvature". You need to search each of your issues by typing in "flat earth youtube" after EVERY search. Otherwise you'll always find Fake globe proof.


LOL!! Population of Alaska 2015---298,695. From May 2013 to April of this year the state hosted nearly two million out-of-state tourists, the most in its history. And every single one of them is lying about what they see!! OK!
 
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LOL!! Population of Alaska 2015---298,695. From May 2013 to April of this year the state hosted nearly two million out-of-state tourists, the most in its history. And every single one of them is lying about what they see!! OK!
I have no clue what you're talking about ? Before you accuse me of lying simply state what proves a globe for people visiting Alaska. Try saying it in less that 4 paragraphs please.
 
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