New Evidence that "The Temple Mount" is the remains of Roman Fort Antonia

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During the last 50 years thousands of Christians and Jews have prayed at the remains of a Roman fort in the city of Jerusalem, which was built to house the thousands of Roman soldiers needed to police the city during the time of Christ.

Why? Because they have ignored the words of Jesus in Matthew 24:1-3, and Luke 19:41-44, and they have also ignored recent archeological evidence.

Recently a Roman Amphitheater was discovered underground at the "western wall" of the fort.

Read the book "Temple" by Robert Cornuke, which reveals the work of Israeli archeologist Eli Shukron, who became famous for rediscovering the Pool of Siloam.



See the links below about the Roman Amphitheater and Roman Fort Antonia.

Archaeologists just discovered an ancient lost theatre near the Western Wall in Jerusalem

The Temple Mount and Fort Antonia

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During the last 50 years thousands of Christians and Jews have prayed at the remains of a Roman fort in the city of Jerusalem, which was built to house the thousands of Roman soldiers needed to police the city during the time of Christ.

Why? Because they have ignored the words of Jesus in Matthew 24:1-3, and Luke 19:41-44, and they have also ignored recent archeological evidence.

Recently a Roman Amphitheater was discovered underground at the "western wall" of the fort.

Read the book "Temple" by Robert Cornuke, which reveals the work of Israeli archeologist Eli Shukron, who became famous for rediscovering the Pool of Siloam.



See the links below about the Roman Amphitheater and Roman Fort Antonia.

Archaeologists just discovered an ancient lost theatre near the Western Wall in Jerusalem

The Temple Mount and Fort Antonia

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Wow!!!!!

Thank you BABerean2....... this is an extremely important idea that sets the stage for a rebuild Jerusalem Third Temple that should be on the correct location that may be near the Gihon Spring.

Ernest L. Martin - Wikipedia

In his 1999 book The Temples that Jerusalem Forgot, Martin argued that the Haram al-Sharif is not the location of the last Temple. This was significant given his relationship with Herbert W. Armstrong whose editorial in The Plain Truth magazine was cited by Denis Michael Rohan as a reason for setting fire to the Al Aqsa mosque during the 1960s.

The basis of this work began with Martin's first visit to Jerusalem in 1961 when he first met Benjamin Mazar and later his son Ory Mazar, who informed him of his belief that the Temples of Solomon and Zerubbabel were located on the Ophel mound to the north of the original Mount Zion on the southeast ridge. In a 1996 draft report to support this theory Martin wrote: "I was then under the impression that Simon the Hasmonean (along with Herod a century later) moved the Temple from the Ophel mound to the Dome of the Rock area." However, after studying the words of Josephus concerning the Temple of Herod the Great, which was reported to be in the same general area of the former Temples, he then read the account of Eleazar who led the final contingent of Jewish resistance to the Romans at Masada which stated that the Roman fortress was the only structure left by 73 C.E. "With this key in mind, I came to the conclusion in 1997 that all the Temples were indeed located on the Ophel mound over the area of the Gihon Spring".[5] From these conclusions Martin produced his book in which he asserted that the Temples of Jerusalem were located over the Gihon Spring and not over the Dome of the Rock. He wrote: "What has been amazing to me is the vast amount of Jewish, Muslim, and Christian records that remain available from the first to the sixteenth centuries that clearly vindicate the conclusions that I have reached in this book of research."
 
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That is interesting. I don't invest a lot in places and artifacts. If anyone's interested, I can sell you a "true splinter of the Cross" or a vial of the actual water Jesus walked upon.

(That last one is technically true, if you understand the science behind the rain cycle.)

There have always been people who need something tangible to focus on in ritualizing their faith. And people who are more than happy to provide such.

This can only be bad for Jerusalem's tourist industry.

Thankfully, we in America have this...

https://holylandexperience.com/
 
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Wow!!!!!

Thank you BABerean2....... this is an extremely important idea that sets the stage for a rebuild Jerusalem Third Temple that should be on the correct location that may be near the Gihon Spring.

Ernest L. Martin - Wikipedia

Does God want a rebuilt temple made of stones and renewed animal sacrifices, after the final sacrifice of His Son?

Who will sew the temple veil back together, after God ripped it in half?



Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
(See Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Hebrews 8:6-13)

Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.





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@BABarean You refuse to see that in our Father's permissive will, He will allow the building of the third temple. It does not mean that this is THE TEMPLE which is the body of Jesus Christ. But the Jews still reject Lord Jesus. There are many that are coming to Christ as we speak but, many of the orthodox are still blind. Also the scripture tells us that they will build another temple, whether we want it or not.
 
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@BABarean You refuse to see that in our Father's permissive will, He will allow the building of the third temple. It does not mean that this is THE TEMPLE which is the body of Jesus Christ. But the Jews still reject Lord Jesus. There are many that are coming to Christ as we speak but, many of the orthodox are still blind. Also the scripture tells us that they will build another temple, whether we want it or not.

That blindness could be removed for many if we would preach the Gospel of the New Covenant found in "the suffering servant" of Isaiah chapter 53, and the promise of the New Covenant found in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and the timeline of Daniel chapter 9.

These three passages prove that the baby born in a manger is the New Covenant Messiah promised in the Hebrew scriptures.

How many times have you seen this simple Gospel presented to the world on Christian television?

Why not?


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That blindness could be removed for many if we would preach the Gospel of the New Covenant found in "the suffering servant" of Isaiah chapter 53, and the promise of the New Covenant found in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and the timeline of Daniel chapter 9.

These three passages prove that the baby born in a manger is the New Covenant Messiah promised in the Hebrew scriptures.

How many times have you seen this simple Gospel presented to the world on Christian television?

Why not?


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Oh, I have seen it preached. But unbelievers are stiff necked. Unbelievers deny that Jesus is the Christ. I can trust that the Holy Spirit will draw those He wills and they shall be saved. But scripture speaks of the reprobate that will not acknowledge our Father as God.We preach, the Holy Spirit draws, and there is no anxiety over the doings of sinful people.The building of the third temple is for a sign that Lord Jesus comes. That is exciting to me.
 
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Also the scripture tells us that they will build another temple, whether we want it or not.

Only if you believe in dispensational supersessionism -- that the old covenant supersedes the New.

But it does not and cannot, for the New Covenant is the New Will and Testament in the Blood of the Divine Testator, which in Scripture and in law completely transcends the old covenant upon the death of the Testator. Thus the New declares:

Acts 7:48
Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,

Acts 17:24
God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

1 Corinthians 3:16
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

2 Corinthians 6:16
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Here's what happened the first time a rebuild was attempted. Who's ready to roll the dice again?

Sozomen (ca. A.D.375-447)
"Ecclesiastical History"
Book V, Chapter XXII


Though the emperor [Julian the Apostate] hated and opressed the Christians, he manifested benevolence and humanity towards the Jews. He wrote to the Jewish patriarchs and leaders, as well as to the people, requesting them to pray for him, and for the prosperity of the empire. In taking this step he was not actuated, I am convinced, by any respect for their religion; for he was aware that it is, so to speak, the mother of the Christian religion, and he knew that both religions rest upon the authority of the patriarchs and the prophets; but he thought to grieve the Christians by favoring the Jews, who are their most inveterate enemies. But perhaps he also calculated upon persuading the Jews to embrace paganism and sacrifices; for they were only acquainted with the mere letter of Scripture, and could not, like the Christians and a few of the wisest among the Hebrews, discern the hidden meaning.

Events proved that this was his real motive; for he sent for some of the chiefs of the race and exhorted them to return to the observance of the laws of Moses and the customs of their fathers. On their replying that because the temple in Jerusalem was overturned, it was neither lawful nor ancestral to do this in another place than the metropolis out of which they had been cast, he gave them public money, commanded them to rebuild the temple, and to practice the cult similar to that of their ancestors, by sacrificing after the ancient way. The Jews entered upon the undertaking, without reflecting that, according to the prediction of the holy prophets, it could not be accomplished. They sought for the most skillful artisans, collected materials, cleared the ground, and entered so earnestly upon the task, that even the women carried heaps of earth, and brought their necklaces and other female ornaments towards defraying the expense. The emperor, the other pagans, and all the Jews, regarded every other undertaking as secondary in importance to this. Although the pagans were not well-disposed towards the Jews, yet they assisted them in this enterprise, because they reckoned upon its ultimate success, and hoped by this means to falsify the prophecies of Christ. Besides this motive, the Jews themselves were impelled by the consideration that the time had arrived for rebuilding their temple. When they had removed the ruins of the former building, they dug up the ground and cleared away its foundation; it is said that on the following day when they were about to lay the first foundation, a great earthquake occurred, and by the violent agitation of the earth, stones were thrown up from the depths, by which those of the Jews who were engaged in the work were wounded, as likewise those who were merely looking on. The houses and public porticos, near the site of the temple, in which they had diverted themselves, were suddenly thrown down; many were caught thereby, some perished immediately, others were found half dead and mutilated of hands or legs, others were injured in other parts of the body. When God caused the earthquake to cease, the workmen who survived again returned to their task, partly because such was the edict of the emperor, and partly because they were themselves interested in the undertaking. Men often, in endeavoring to gratify their own passions, seek what is injurious to them, reject what would be truly advantageous, and are deluded-by the idea that nothing is really useful except what is agreeable to them. When once led astray by this error, they are no longer able to act in a manner conducive to their own interests, or to take warning by the calamities which are visited upon them.

The Jews, I believe, were just in this state; for, instead of regarding this unexpected earthquake as a manifest indication that God was opposed to the re-erection of their temple, they proceeded to recommence the work. But all parties relate, that they had scarcely returned to the undertaking, when fire burst suddenly from the foundations of the temple, and consumed several of the workmen.

This fact is fearlessly stated, and believed by all; the only discrepancy in the narrative is that some maintain that flame burst from the interior of the temple, as the workmen were striving to force an entrance, while others say that the fire proceeded directly from the earth. In whichever way the phenomenon might have occurred, it is equally wonderful. A more tangible and still more extraordinary prodigy ensued; suddenly the sign of the cross appeared spontaneously on the garments of the persons engaged in the undertaking. These crosses were disposed like stars, and appeared the work of art. Many were hence led to confess that Christ is God, and that the rebuilding of the temple was not pleasing to Him; others presented themselves in the church, were initiated, and besought Christ, with hymns and supplications, to pardon their transgression. If any one does not feel disposed to believe my narrative, let him go and be convinced by those who heard the facts I have related from the eyewitnesses of them, for they are still alive. Let him inquire, also, of the Jews and pagans who left the work in an incomplete state, or who, to speak more accurately, were able to commence it.
 
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Only if you believe in dispensational supersessionism -- that the old covenant supersedes the New.

"chuckles" The thing you are not understanding is that orthodox Jews do not believe in a amil doctrine - they don't care at all about that .
They want a temple and they will build a temple -they are not building the temple to fulfill a prophecy , they will build it simply because they want it .
They are not following Jesus , they are following their own doctrine.
Understanding prophecy requires understanding that there is a difference between Gods instruction to His people and God proclaiming "X" will happen regardless of what "X" happens to be.

Matt 5
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

No the OT is NOT obsolete until ALL things are fulfilled -Regardless of what amils teach!

Example of Gods instruction is God telling Noah to build an ark and what wood to make it with and how to fill it when finished , doing so provides Noah and his family the way to escape the flood that is coming on the earth ,
Noah could have followed what the rest of the people believed and disregard Gods instruction and died with all the rest .

Example of Gods prophecy is when God declares that HE will put a hook in the jaw of Israels enemies and drag them down to wage war on Israel , God is declaring that this will happen and He will cause men do carry it out
- but those who do carry it out are not saying they are doing it to fulfill bible prophecy - they are doing it for their own personal reasons to accomplish their own goal-
Not understanding that God is causing it to happen -just as in when the pharaoh received the 10 plagues that Moses said were going to happen.
 
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That blindness could be removed for many if we would preach the Gospel of the New Covenant found in "the suffering servant" of Isaiah chapter 53, and the promise of the New Covenant found in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and the timeline of Daniel chapter 9.

These three passages prove that the baby born in a manger is the New Covenant Messiah promised in the Hebrew scriptures.

How many times have you seen this simple Gospel presented to the world on Christian television?
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Many many many times through the years since I was a young , but it not as much these days as most churches have decided that raising money is more important and teaching self help sermons as they have also decided not to teach any prophecy related matters.,

In today's world many churches don't even offer an invitation to come down to the alter as in alter call , though since seeing this being brought out to public eye I see more preachers calling for it to happen
 
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Many many many times through the years since I was a young , but it not as much these days as most churches have decided that raising money is more important and teaching self help sermons as they have also decided not to teach any prophecy related matters.,

In today's world many churches don't even offer an invitation to come down to the alter as in alter call , though since seeing this being brought out to public eye I see more preachers calling for it to happen

Never in my lifetime have I seen a preacher touch on Isaiah chapter 53, and Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Daniel 9, all in the same sermon on Christian television.

I have never seen a preacher do a complete sermon on Jeremiah 31:31-34, and its fulfillment in Hebrews 8:6-13, on Christian television.

Why not?


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Never in my lifetime have I seen a preacher touch on Isaiah chapter 53, and Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Daniel 9, all in the same sermon on Christian television.

I have never seen a preacher do a complete sermon on Jeremiah 31:31-34, and its fulfillment in Hebrews 8:6-13, on Christian television.

Why not?

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Because you follow the videos you post and don't look anywhere else and won't listen to anyone that does not agree with what you teach - same reason why atheists and Darwinism does not know what Jesus taught
 
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Because you follow the videos you post and don't look anywhere else and won't listen to anyone that does not agree with what you teach - same reason why atheists and Darwinism does not know what Jesus taught

Feel free to prove me wrong, by showing us a sermon from Christian television.

Show us where to look, or admit that you are wrong.

I will be glad to take a look at them, if you can provide any to look at...

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Feel free to prove me wrong, by showing us a sermon from Christian television.

Show us where to look.

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Just look at the majority of your posts - you exclusively post from the same people over and over and over many times over and they all believe the same amil stuff as you will not watch anything that doesn't agree with what you prefer to hear - and if someone does post something other than what you prefer to hear -all you would do is condemn it if it does not agree with what you teach
 
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"chuckles" The thing you are not understanding is that orthodox Jews do not believe in a amil doctrine - they don't care at all about that .
They want a temple and they will build a temple -they are not building the temple to fulfill a prophecy , they will build it simply because they want it .
They are not following Jesus , they are following their own doctrine.
Understanding prophecy requires understanding that there is a difference between Gods instruction to His people and God proclaiming "X" will happen regardless of what "X" happens to be.

So you disagree with those of the dispensational persuasion who are convinced that rebuilding the temple is a fulfillment of prophecy?

Matt 5
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

No the OT is NOT obsolete until ALL things are fulfilled -Regardless of what amils teach!

And all has been fulfilled.

Luke 24
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Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures

Acts 13
29
And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.
 
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@BABarean You refuse to see that in our Father's permissive will, He will allow the building of the third temple.
The Bible says no such thing.

scripture tells us that they will build another temple, whether we want it or not.
That it most certainly does not.
 
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