A Third Temple In Jerusalem, Breaking News?

[seventysevens]

Even if we imagine a hypothetical picture that Orthodox Jews built a copy of the Second Temple in Jerusalem, and Israel was able to defeat a billion Muslims (or how many of them there, I do not know), then this temple would simply be a booth for connoisseurs of antiquity, a museum of antiquity. There can not be any antichrist there, in principle, because only the high priest, once a year, can enter the Holy of Holies, and no person can sit in the Holy of Holies.

When the temple is built there is peace in the region - no war -peace and safety -
When a person that Almighty God himself declare that it is HE who put people in power -all kings and presidents and rulers that have had their place in power ALL were put there by God himself - depending on how the people of the land have done they either get a good ruler or bad one - don't think that kings and presidents of their own power and influence get their power position without Gods hand in it as it does not happen . God said that HE Himself will send the person called Man of Sin into power - so whatever it takes it will happen and that man will be in power - only God has that power as God himself declares the HE will drag Israels enemies down from the north to wage war with Israel - If that Man of Sin has to be a priest then he will be one . God Himself it said will be done - it is HIS plan that it will happen

 

[ProtectionET]

The reference of the Man of Sin is a man God has put in that place who has the power that no other human in history could of ever had - the Man of Sin is empowered by satan who has power of satan - a whole other manner of ruler - He is the imposter of the Almighty who the Almighty has sent to people who would rather believe a lie than the truth so that is what God has said He will give them

So what? Well, will there be some Trump or Putin doing miracles in his presidency? So what? If the whole Church is united in one body, after the messengers of all the churches are gathered in Israel, we have no business for Caesar. We will be at a wedding feast. We live according to the laws of the Heavenly Kingdom, God saves us from any antichrist, we are not citizens of the United States or Russia, we are citizens of God.

Do not expect fantastic things, everything will be very simple. He who remains to live according to the laws of the former world will be under the authority of the Antichrist and will be the slave of the world system. They will wait for blessings from their world system, from the "beast 666". The name of the beast is 666 euporia (in Greek), in the American Bible it is translated as "prosperity". Do I have to explain this? I wrote about it here and here.

 

[seventysevens]

So what? Well, will there be some Trump or Putin doing miracles in his presidency? So what? If the whole Church is united in one body, after the messengers of all the churches are gathered in Israel, we have no business for Caesar. We will be at a wedding feast. We live according to the laws of the Heavenly Kingdom, God saves us from any antichrist, we are not citizens of the United States or Russia, we are citizens of God.

Do not expect fantastic things, everything will be very simple. He who remains to live according to the laws of the former world will be under the authority of the Antichrist and will be the slave of the world system. They will wait for blessings from their world system, from the "beast 666". The name of the beast is 666 euporia (in Greek), in the American Bible it is translated as "prosperity". Do I have to explain this? I wrote about it here and here.

I have made numerous references to that GOD HAS DECLARED IT - do you know the scripture where God has said it ? Do you not know Why God has declared it ?
the name of beast 666 has been said to be many names that people assign to it none have been proven to the true meaning the mulsim leader and lucifer being 2 of them

 

[ProtectionET]

hen the temple is built there is peace in the region - no war -peace and safety -
When a person that Almighty God himself declare that it is HE who put people in power -all kings and presidents and rulers that have had their place in power ALL were put there by God himself - depending on how the people of the land have done they either get a good ruler or bad one - don't think that kings and presidents of their own power and influence get their power position without Gods hand in it as it does not happen . God said that HE Himself will send the person called Man of Sin into power - so whatever it takes it will happen and that man will be in power - only God has that power as God himself declares the HE will drag Israels enemies down from the north to wage war with Israel - If that Man of Sin has to be a priest then he will be one . God Himself it said will be done - it is HIS plan that it will happen

Of course. The world is ruled by the devil, because God gave him this power. God gave power to the devil, because people wanted it. And all power is exactly this: the power of the devil, which he received from God. Therefore, all power is from God. Nero, Hitler, Lenin, Putin, Trump - they are all the same from God. And do not think that one of the tries is better or worse than another: they are all the same: this is the power of the beast-666, and this power is from God. But this power is not God.

When the Jews build Ezekiel's Temple, the saints will gather in Israel. And in the rest of the world there will be "peace and security", because the saints will no longer interfere. Everyone will be happy: we will be satisfied with the deliverance from the lies of this world in the Kingdom of Truth [staff edit]. And they will laugh at the poor fools who rejoice at some temple in the Judean desert. And in a few years the kingdom of the beast will become gloomy, because everyone will understand: the pursuit of a material paradise is a road to nowhere.

 

[ProtectionET]

I have made numerous references to that GOD HAS DECLARED IT - do you know the scripture where God has said it ? Do you not know Why God has declared it ?
the name of beast 666 has been said to be many names that people assign to it none have been proven to the true meaning the mulsim leader and lucifer being 2 of them

The name of the beast-666 is prosperity (Acts 19:25 compare with 1 Corinthians 15:32), the beast itself is the entire world system, the "heads of the beast" are world empires, the "image of the beast" is a specific antichrist. The beast-666 is not a man. The beast is the whole of the present civilization.

 

[seventysevens]

Of course. The world is ruled by the devil, because God gave him this power. God gave power to the devil, because people wanted it. And all power is exactly this: the power of the devil, which he received from God. Therefore, all power is from God. Nero, Hitler, Lenin, Putin, Trump - they are all the same from God. And do not think that one of the tries is better or worse than another: they are all the same: this is the power of the beast-666, and this power is from God. But this power is not God.

When the Jews build Ezekiel's Temple, the saints will gather in Israel. And in the rest of the world there will be "peace and security", because the saints will no longer interfere. Everyone will be happy: we will be satisfied with the deliverance from the lies of this world in the Kingdom of Truth [staff edit]. And they will laugh at the poor fools who rejoice at some temple in the Judean desert. And in a few years the kingdom of the beast will become gloomy, because everyone will understand: the pursuit of a material paradise is a road to nowhere.

The reference to "peace and safety" is scripture that is applied to the nation of Israel as since it's rebirth as a nation it has been in turmoil wars and conflict and threatened by its surrounding countries who want to rid the earth of them - when that stuff stops it will be peace and safety for a short time "then sudden destruction cometh" because the Man of Sin sends forth the order to destroy Israel -this begins the GREAT Tribulation that Jesus spoke of which leads to Jesus return to earth.

 

[seventysevens]

The name of the beast-666 is prosperity (Acts 19:25 compare with 1 Corinthians 15:32), the beast itself is the entire world system, the "heads of the beast" are world empires, the "image of the beast" is a specific antichrist. The beast-666 is not a man. The beast is the whole of the present civilization.

God says 666 is the number of a man

 

[ProtectionET]

The reference to "peace and safety" is scripture that is applied to the nation of Israel as since it's rebirth as a nation it has been in turmoil wars and conflict and threatened by its surrounding countries who want to rid the earth of them - when that stuff stops it will be peace and safety for a short time "then sudden destruction cometh" because the Man of Sin sends forth the order to destroy Israel -this begins the GREAT Tribulation that Jesus spoke of which leads to Jesus return to earth

I think that this theological construction is completely untenable.

 

[seventysevens]

I think that this theological construction is completely untenable.

If you know the Word of God then you will know that it is scripture fact not theology

 

[ProtectionET]

God says 666 is the number of a man

The name is the essence. Adam gave the names to the beasts. He gave names to entities. "Lion" is courage, "hare" is cowardice, donkey is "stubbornness," etc. These were not animals in the biological sense, they were "beasts of human qualities." This is the evolution of the human environment.

And the man's assistant was not bravery, not stubbornness and industriousness, but "wife", that is, people's environment.

"Wife" is the environment of people. Creation of the world in Genesis is not the creation of material and biological objects, it is the creation of the social environment of mankind, the spiritual world of modern man. Beast-666 is the obsession of people with the idea of material well-being. It is for this beast that empires are created, all the states, all the kingdoms of the world serve him, because the devil gave this beast his throne and all his power.

It would be more correct to translate not "man," but "human."

 

[seventysevens]

The name is the essence. Adam gave the names to the beasts. He gave names to entities. "Lion" is courage, "hare" is cowardice, donkey is "stubbornness," etc. These were not animals in the biological sense, they were "beasts of human qualities." This is the evolution of the human environment.

And the man's assistant was not bravery, not stubbornness and industriousness, but "wife", that is, people's environment.

"Wife" is the environment of people. Creation of the world in Genesis is not the creation of material and biological objects, it is the creation of the social environment of mankind, the spiritual world of modern man. Beast-666 is the obsession of people with the idea of material well-being. It is for this beast that empires are created, all the states, all the kingdoms of the world serve him, because the devil gave this beast his throne and all his power.

It would be more correct to translate not "man," but "human."

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

He is male - a man that has power of satan -power beyond of any mortal man

 

[ProtectionET]

[Staff edit].

He is male - a man that has power of satan -power beyond of any mortal man

There are no people with seven heads. The seven heads of the beast are the seven world empires. Babylon, Egypt, Assyria, Mido-Persia, Greece, Rome, USA.

And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. (Revelation 17:10)

The sixth head of the beast ruled the world during the time of the apostle John, it was the Roman Empire.

 

[seventysevens]

There are no people with seven heads. The seven heads of the beast are the seven world empires. Babylon, Egypt, Assyria, Mido-Persia, Greece, Rome, USA.

And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. (Revelation 17:10)

The sixth head of the beast ruled the world during the time of the apostle John, it was the Roman Empire.

You have totally misread the scripture - the ones you speak of are entirely different than than what I posted - way off not even close......
You probably suppose that when Elijah called fire down from heaven that it was false as well
You need to understand that the delusion that God is sending in the Man of Sin is by design that the person will appear to be God in order to cause those people who despise Christ to believe the lie of that man being God being on earth - as God says it will be so great of a deception that even His elect could be fooled if they were not already expecting the deception to happen.

 

[Truth7t7]

The name of the beast-666 is prosperity (Acts 19:25 compare with 1 Corinthians 15:32), the beast itself is the entire world system, the "heads of the beast" are world empires, the "image of the beast" is a specific antichrist. The beast-666 is not a man. The beast is the whole of the present civilization.

I disagree with your interpretation of the "Beast" being civilization.

This will be a literal human man of Jewish decent, who will rule from Jerusalem.

Your concept of a Temple in the Judean dessert that will gather the Church saints is far fetched.

The focus of the world will be Jerusalem, not the Judean dessert.

 

[Thomas1987]

Could This Be Possible, A Third Temple In Jerusalem?

Haaretz News:
Christians and Jews Now Compare Trump to Persian King Cyrus – Will He Build the Third Temple?
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Allison Kaplan Sommer Dec 16, 2017 11:16 PM

BreakingIsraelNews
Trump’s Jerusalem Declaration ‘Enormous Step Towards Bringing Third Temple’
By Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz December 7, 2017 , 9:30 am

CBNNews.com
Is Trump's Jerusalem Declaration an Opportunity to Build Third Temple?
12-12-2017

NewsWeek
Will Trump Hasten the Arrival of the Messiah? Jews and Evangelicals Think So
By Cristina Maza On 12/11/17 at 4:14 PM

WNDNews
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Published: 12/10/2017 at 4:25 PM

Muslim Times
How can we build the Third Temple together?
By Zia H Shah on December 6, 2017

Well he has to because time is running short jubilee ends in like 30 something days so they have to get permission to build temple very soon .

 

[BABerean2]

Well he has to because time is running short jubilee ends in like 30 something days so they have to get permission to build temple very soon .

The following is from the 1599 Geneva Bible, which is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America.
It reflects the understanding of Bible scholars during that time.


Dan 9:27 And he shal confirme the couenant with many for one weeke: and in the middes of the weeke he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the ouerspreading of the abominations, he shall make it desolate, euen vntill the consummation determined shalbe powred vpon the desolate.


Daniel 9:27
And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

(a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles.

(b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection.

(c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them.

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[Douggg]

Orthodox Jews can not build a temple in Jerusalem, because most Israeli politicians are atheists and sensible people who do not want to start a war with the entire Islamic world. In addition, the vast majority of Christians around the world will look at such a temple as a product of the devil and will not in the least support Israel in this matter.

Makes sense. Welcome to the forum ProtectionET. We don't get much participation from the Russian Federation...... I guess it is the language issue.

 

[GUANO]

Not gonna happen. No third temple.

 

[TribulationSigns]

Not gonna happen. No third temple.

Of course not. There will be no physical temple in the future. They are teaching a false doctrine because it built upon the wrong temple.

 

[Quasar92]

The Third Temple will never be built in Jerusalem. Because the prophecy of Ezekiel indicates the place of the future Temple: The Third Temple will be built in the Judean Desert, between the streams of Nahal Hever and Nahal Arugot, on the southern slope of the mountain.

All these empty talk about building a copy of the Second Temple is just a trick of Satan who wants Christians to do nothing for the construction of the Temple in accordance with the prophecy of Ezekiel, and thus did not create the conditions for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

God commanded where the new temple and alter is to be built

THERE WILL BE TWO TEMPLES YET TO BE BUILT: THE THIRD ONE WILL BE THE TRIBULATION TEMPLE AS DOCUMENTED IN DAN.9:27; MT.24:15, 2 THES.2:4 AND REV.11:1-2.

THE FOURTH ONE WILL BE THE MILLENNIAL TEMPLE CHRIST WILL BUILD HIMSELF ACCORDING TO ZECH.6:12-13, DESCRIBED IN EZ.40-47.

The following is the tribulation temple:

"Regardless of how the Lord works out the details, His plan will be brought to pass. In the meantime, many of the current events now taking place in and around Jerusalem and the Temple Mount are setting the stage for what will be a string of events that will usher in the second coming of Christ. The church is looking for the rapture, where Christ will take us in an instance to be with Himself for all eternity. Maranatha!"

By Thomas Ice, PhD.

Source: http://www.raptureready.com/featured/ic ... build.html [site has been moved]

The following is the Millennial kingdom of Christ temple:

Source: http://bible.ucg.org/bible-commentary/E ... fault.aspx

The temple described in the above link article is the Millennial temple Jesus will be the builder of Himself, according to Zech.6:12-13. However, there must also be a temple in existence when the 70 Week of Daniel takes place, which is also known as the seven year tribulation as well as the Day of the Lord. This is the tribulation temple as seen in Dan.9:27 and in 2 Thes.2:4, where the antichrist is going to profane by claiming himself to be God, and setting up the abomination of desolation. Though it is not recorded in the Scriptures, the tribulation temple will undoubtedly be destroyed during that dreadful period of time. Therefore, according to the Scriptures, there yet remains two Israeli temples yet to be built in Jerusalem.

Where does God command where the new temple and alter must be?

"...By this time, it was no longer permissible to build altars just anywhere. Now the restrictions were even greater. Certain sacrifices were still permitted at any hallowed altar, but not as many as before. When the two and a half Tribes that lived in Trans-Jordan built an altar, there was an uproar about it, until they explained that the altar was on the order of a banner, a reminder, not a place for sacrifices (see Joshua 22:9-34).

The ultimate plan was for a Holy Temple, where the mobile Sanctuary would find a permanent resting place, so to speak. The Torah explicitly commands that once the Holy Temple is built no sacrifices at all may be brought anywhere else. And that is irrevocable Law. Once the Holy Temple was dedicated and in operation, it was forbidden for Israelites to bring sacrifices anywhere else in the world.

For example, we find that the Torah says, "You may not worship Hashem your G-d in such a manner. This you may do only on the site that Hashem your G-d will choose from among all your tribes to place His Name there. You must seek His Presence, and you must go there. You will bring there your elevated offerings, your eaten sacrifices, your tithes, your hand-delivered elevated gifts, your general and specific pledges, the first born of your cattle and flocks...." (Deut. 12:4-6).

And the Torah continues, "You will not do then what we do here now, where each person does as he sees fit. For you have not yet come to the resting place and hereditary land that Hashem your G-d giving you. When you cross the Jordan and you settle the land that Hashem your G-d is allotting you, and Hashem has granted you safety from all your enemies around you, and you are living securely, there will be a place that Hashem will choose to rest His Name there. It is to there you must bring all that I command you, your burnt elevated offerings, your eaten sacrirfices, your tithes, your elevated gifts, and all your choice pledges that you might pledge to Hashem" (Deut 12:8-11).

As if this were not strong enough, the Torah warns us: "Watch yourself! Lest you bring your burnt elevated offerings in any place you see fit. Only in the place that Hashem will choose, somewhere from among your tribes, there shall your bring your burnt elevated offerings, and there you must do all that I command you concerning this." (Deut 12:13-14)

Once the Holy Temple was built, we were no longer permitted to bring sacrifices anywhere else.

And the clock could not be moved back. The earlier eras are gone, and cannot be restored. Once the Holy Temple was built, the Laws of all previous eras and situations were no longer relevant. That is what the Torah commands."

From the above, there is only one place God accepts for His temple to be and where the alter must be for the sacrificial ceremonies to worship Him from. On Mount Moriah in Jerusalem.


Source: Why do we no longer bring animal sacrifices?


Quasar92