Revelation 20:1-6 A Literal Kingdom?

[Riberra]

(YLT) 'And the multitude of those sleeping in the dust of the ground do awake, some to life age-during, and some to reproaches—to abhorrence age-during.

You should stick to the KJV BIBLE.

John 5:27-30.

John 5:28-30
IS THE GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT Revelation 20:11-15 but don't forget what will happen 1,000 years EARLIER Revelation 20:4-6.

 

[BABerean2]

You should stick to the KJV BIBLE.

H7227
רַב
rab
rab
By contraction from H7231; abundant (in quantity, size, age, number, rank, quality): - (in) abound (-undance, -ant, -antly), captain, elder, enough, exceedingly, full, great (-ly, man, one), increase, long (enough, [time]), (do, have) many (-ifold, things, a time), ([ship-]) master, mighty, more, (too, very) much, multiply (-tude), officer, often [-times], plenteous, populous, prince, process [of time], suffice (-ient).
Total KJV occurrences: 458

How about the Greek from which it was translated?

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[Truth7t7]

Revelation 20:4-15 is very clear about Two Resurrections separated by 1,000 YE S...
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Daniel 12:2 say that AFTER the tribulation MANY [THUS NOT ALL] of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake

Daniel 12:1-2
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince who standeth for the children of thy people; and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Matthew 25:31-46 clearly teaches Jesus returns in the final judgment, eternal life, eternal kingdom.

You disregard this factual truth, you run from this truth, that clearly shows no earthly 1000 year kingdom follows the return of Jesus Christ.

 

[Riberra]

Matthew 25:31-46 clearly teaches Jesus returns in the final judgment, eternal life, eternal kingdom.

You disregard this factual truth, you run from this truth, that clearly shows no earthly 1000 year kingdom follows the return of Jesus Christ.

Do you believe that you can take the mark and worship the Beast without being under the Judgment mentioned in
Revelation 14:9-12
9 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a great voice, If any man worshippeth the beast and his image, and receiveth a mark on his forehead, or upon his hand, 10 he also shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is prepared unmixed in the cup of his anger; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 and the smoke of their torment goeth up for ever and ever; and they have no rest day and night, they that worship the beast and his image, and whoso receiveth the mark of his name.

12 Here is the patience of the saints, they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Those who will be alive UNTO the coming of Jesus will be JUDGED upon what is written in Revelation 14:9-12.

 

[DavidPT]

(YLT) 'And the multitude of those sleeping in the dust of the ground do awake, some to life age-during, and some to reproaches—to abhorrence age-during.

John 5:27-30.

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Young's Literal Translation
Daniel 12:3 And those teaching do shine as the brightness of the expanse, and those justifying the multitude as stars to the age and for ever.


I guess multitude here means 'all' as well, right? As in unirversalism.

 

[iamlamad]

Revelation 20:1-6 represents the Lords spiritual realm, there is no time in the spiritual realm, A Thousand years is a day " No Earthly Time" Thousand is not literal.
2 Peter 3:8, Psalms 50:10

In verses 1-6 you see 100% spiritual beings, in the Lord's eternal realm of no time.
Angel, heaven, devil, satan, the souls, the dead, God, Christ, there is no physical earthly kingdom seen, none "A Fairy Tale Teaching"

Thats why this false teaching turns to the Old Testament, trying desparately to create a earthly millennial kingdom, "That Isn't There"!

(Example) Isaiah 65, Ezekiel 47, Zechariah 14, these chapters all represent the "Eternal Kingdom" not a earthly one.

This non-literal 1000 year reign is from the Lords earthly ministry to the second advent.

If a future tribulatuon saint dies one week before the second advent, he enters the non-literal 1000 year reign.

"Don't Be Deceived", A 1000 Year Earthly Kingdom Isn't Found In The Holy Scripture.

Matthew 24:23-27 Jesus Warns Against This False Teaching, Jesus Christ Will Not Return To Earth, And Hang Out With Mortal Humans.

"Believe It Not"!

Jesus Christ Is The Lord

Truth7t7

Anyone willing to spiritualize verses that make good sense taken literally will end up with nonsense. Of course there will be a literal 1000 year reign of Christ. Jewish sages of old knew this: that man would rule earth for 6000 years, then God would rule for the 7th thousand years.

 

[Truth7t7]

Anyone willing to spiritualize verses that make good sense taken literally will end up with nonsense. Of course there will be a literal 1000 year reign of Christ. Jewish sages of old knew this: that man would rule earth for 6000 years, then God would rule for the 7th thousand years.

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Matthew 25:31-46 teaches otherwise, at the return of Jesus Christ the final judgment, eternal life, eternal kingdom takes place.

Verses 31-32 Jesus returns with the angels, the nations are gathered for judgment.

Verse 34 the eternal kingdom is presented to the righteous.

Verse 41 the wicked are judged to the eternal lake of fire.

Verse 46 the righteous obtain eternal life, and enter the eternal kingdom in verse 34.

There is found no place in scripture a 1000 year earthly kingdom, "No Place"!

Revelation 20:1-6

Angel,heaven, devil, Satan, the souls, the dead, God, Christ, 100% spiritual realm, no earthly kingdom seen.

 

[iamlamad]

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Matthew 25:31-46 teaches otherwise, at the return of Jesus Christ the final judgment, eternal life, eternal kingdom takes place.

There is found no place in scripture a 1000 year earthly kingdom, "No Place"!

Revelation 20:1-6

Angel,heaven, devil, Satan, the souls, the dead, God, Christ, 100% spiritual realm, no earthly kingdom seen.

Sorry, wrong again! The judgment of the nations is to determine WHO will be allowed to enter the 1000 year reign of Christ.

Revelation 20: 1-6 speaks of the 1000 year reign of Christ on earth. This is written in very literal and easy to understand language. I don't understand where there is any place for argument.

 

[Truth7t7]

Sorry, wrong again! The judgment of the nations is to determine WHO will be allowed to enter the 1000 year reign of Christ.

Revelation 20: 1-6 speaks of the 1000 year reign of Christ on earth. This is written in very literal and easy to understand language. I don't understand where there is any place for argument.

Sorry you disregard the plain teaching of scripture, in #327 above without answer.

 

[BABerean2]

The judgment of the nations is to determine WHO will be allowed to enter the 1000 year reign of Christ.

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
(Christ judges both the living and the dead at His return.)


Joh 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.

Joh 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
Joh 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Joh 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.



Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
(The kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms of God and Christ "forever", at the 7th trumpet, which is the last trumpet in the Bible.)



Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
(In the verse above we have "the nations", and "wrath", and "the time of the judgment of the dead", along with "reward", and "destruction". You cannot have a judgment of the dead without a bodily resurrection of the dead.)


Christ returns in "flaming fire", based on the words of Paul found below.

2Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

2Th 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

2Th 1:10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.


Peter was looking for the New Heavens and the New Earth on the Day of the Lord, when Christ returns, as a thief in 2 Peter 3:10-13.

When does the fire come in Revelation chapter 20?

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[Riberra]

When does the fire come in Revelation chapter 20?

When does the fire come in Revelation 11:18 ?

 

[BABerean2]

When does the fire come in Revelation 11:18 ?

Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.


2Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
2Th 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
2Th 1:10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

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[Riberra]

2Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
2Th 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
2Th 1:10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

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There is no mention of Jesus Coming in FLAMING FIRE in Revelation 11:18 ....

 

[BABerean2]

There is no mention of Jesus Coming in FLAMING FIRE in Revelation 11:18 ....

You are correct.

And the word "earth" is not in 2 Thessalonians chapter 1, but we still know that is where He is coming...

And the word "nations" is not in 2 Thessalonians chapter 1, but we know that He will be judging them when he returns...

And the word "trumpet" is not in 2 Thessalonian chapter 1, but we know a trumpet will be blown...


An argument from silence is not much of an argument, based on the whole of scripture that reveals the truth, even when it destroys our doctrine.

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[Riberra]

You are correct.

And the word "earth" is not in 2 Thessalonians chapter 1, but we still know that is where He is coming...

And the word "nations" is not in 2 Thessalonians chapter 1, but we know that He will be judging them when he returns...

And the word "trumpet" is not in 2 Thessalonian chapter 1, but we know a trumpet will be blown...


An argument from silence is not much of an argument, based on the whole of scripture that reveals the truth, even when it destroys our doctrine

But the Bible tell us when Jesus will Come in Revelation 16:15-17

 

[DavidPT]

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An argument from silence is not much of an argument, based on the whole of scripture that reveals the truth, even when it destroys our doctrine.

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Didn't you just do basically the same thing recently by arguing 'kingdom' can't be found in Revelation 20? And didn't I prove with Daniel 7:22 that kingdom most definitely is found in Revelation 20:4?

 

[BABerean2]

Didn't you just do basically the same thing recently by arguing 'kingdom' can't be found in Revelation 20? And didn't I prove with Daniel 7:22 that kingdom most definitely is found in Revelation 20:4?

And the word "kingdoms" is found in Revelation 11:15, but you try to ignore it there...

And the "time of the judgment of the dead" is in Revelation 11:18, but you ignore that also...

Is every use of the word "kingdom" or "kingdoms" in the Bible about Revelation chapter 20?

The word "kingdom" is found 342 times in the KJV.

The word "kingdoms" is found 57 times in the KJV.

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[Riberra]

And the word "kingdoms" is found in Revelation 11:15, but you try to ignore it there...

Can you give us your interpretation of Revelation 20 ?...tell us why the reference to the 1,000 years is so important that it is written 6 times .

 

[DavidPT]

And the word "kingdoms" is found in Revelation 11:15, but you try to ignore it there...

Actually I don't ignore it though. This leads to the vials of wrath which lead to the 2nd coming. Of course the kingdoms of this world have become His at the time. For one He casts the beast and false prophet into the lake of fire, slays the remnant of it's armies, binds satan a thousand years, then begins governing the entire planet with His saved saints assisting. That's why we see what we see in Zechariah 14, such as---And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one. That is the result following the 7th trumpet. It clearly connects with the kingdoms of the world becoming His. Then we see those left of the nations commanded to keep the feast of tabernacles, otherwise no rain, etc. This is an example of ruling the nations with a rod of iron.

 

[BABerean2]

This is an example of ruling the nations with a rod of iron.

The potter does not correct the flawed pots with the rod of iron.
He destroys them.


Psa 2:6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
Psa 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Psa 2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
Psa 2:9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

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