Wireless Internet Service Providers Association applauds FCC’s vote on repealing net neutrality

[NightHawkeye]

From the "Small guys applaud the FCC", files: WISPA applauds FCC’s vote on repealing net neutrality

Among those who consider themselves in the winner’s corner after Thursday’s FCC vote: the Wireless Internet Service Providers Association (WISPA), which had argued for a “light-touch” regulatory approach to the internet.
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“Let us be clear: The internet was free and open before the FCC imposed more onerous, one-size-fits-all rules in 2015, and it will be free and open when we return to a lighter-touch regulatory framework,” said Chuck Hogg, chairman of WISPA, in a statement.

Hogg went on to say that WISPA’s members do not block, throttle, or accept payments to prioritize internet traffic. “WISPA agrees that ISPs should clearly disclose their terms of service, disclose their network management practices, and protect their customers’ private information; and our members do. All of this will continue under the FCC framework adopted today,” he said.
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Most U.S. WISPs are small and medium-sized businesses serving hundreds of customers in rural areas, with fewer than 10 employees each. Having to adhere to onerous government regulations imposes compliance costs and hassles that the smaller companies don’t want, according to WISPA.​

 

[szechuan]

BWAHAHHAHAHAH what a friggin joke. And of course this was going to happen the ISP's were the ones who were controlling the FCC and Senate.

 

[badatusernames]

Of course they do, it means more money for them.

"Hogg went on to say that WISPA’s members do not block, throttle, or accept payments to prioritize internet traffic"

That's because net neutrality prevented them from doing so.

 

[tampasteve]

Of course the WISPA group is against it. By the nature of the technology of their product offering they get slammed by people streaming bandwidth intensive websites/programs. Many of these smaller ISPs are just reselling a 1GB or so circuit that they take to a tower and then route to homes over wireless connections of some sort. So you can have a couple hundred homes sharing a rather small pipe compared to say, FIOS 1GB at just my home being shared with just my family. They are notorious for having painfully slow service at peak hours. By limiting people, or charging more, to particular uses they can manage their network better, but also limit use.

 

[super animator]

Is this another contrarian post of yours NH?

 

[tampasteve]

Most U.S. WISPs are small and medium-sized businesses serving hundreds of customers in rural areas, with fewer than 10 employees each. Having to adhere to onerous government regulations imposes compliance costs and hassles that the smaller companies don’t want, according to WISPA.

I find that amusing. The reason they are against it is the load on their network. Their technology is not really capable of serving the amount of users they have on the network they typically deploy. By now being able to limit internet use they can manage their networks so they work better, but not for the uses people generally want them for. As I stated above, they have generally terrible reviews by users as they share to little bandwidth among too many people, they are unwilling (or sometimes unable) to pay for more bandwidth on their network, or accept less customers in order to supply a superior product. Their issue wasn't the regulations, it was the technology and product.

 

[szechuan]

By limiting people, or charging more, to particular uses they can manage their network better, but also limit use.

I disagree the UK banned Bandwidth limits and there internet runs about the same if not better then U.S. for the most part.

also
South Korea has the fastest internet for most consumers over 90% of the population uses the internet and it's controlled by the government.

Internet in South Korea - Wikipedia

 

[tampasteve]

I disagree the UK banned Bandwidth limits and there internet runs about the same if not better then U.S. for the most part.

I think you misunderstand me. What I mean is that they can manage their bandwidth usage which will make the service faster for general use for their users. WISPA are a particular ISP here that take a circuit from a larger carrier and distribute it wireless to customers, often from a local cell tower and then to homes with their own radio on a small mast. They typically have data caps monthly and slower bandwidth allotment than regular ISPs. Cable and fiber ISPs here typically provide 350MB-1Gb down speed per home on their network in a metro area. The WISPA are sharing that same 350MB-1GB circuit among tens to hundreds of homes. Their networks are overloaded generally and poor quality. Not always, but typically.

 

[szechuan]

I think you misunderstand me. What I mean is that they can manage their bandwidth usage which will make the service faster for general use for their users. WISPA are a particular ISP here that take a circuit from a larger carrier and distribute it wireless to customers, often from a local cell tower and then to homes with their own radio on a small mast. They typically have data caps monthly and slower bandwidth allotment than regular ISPs. Cable and fiber ISPs here typically provide 350MB-1Gb down speed per home on their network in a metro area. The WISPA are sharing that same 350MB-1GB circuit among tens to hundreds of homes. Their networks are overloaded generally and poor quality. Not always, but typically.

Letting the users control bandwidth should be a thing I agree with that, but that's why we have certain programs that can do that.

 

[tampasteve]

Letting the users control bandwidth should be a thing I agree with that, but that's why we have certain programs that can do that.

Right, but this law (or lack of it) allows the WISPA ISP to control the actual use (websites, streaming services, etc.) of the bandwidth, not just the bandwidth to the home. They already could throttle the bandwidth to a certain speed, and did. So, it is out of the user's control and now their ISP can control their use.

 

[JGG]

From the "Small guys applaud the FCC", files: WISPA applauds FCC’s vote on repealing net neutrality

Among those who consider themselves in the winner’s corner after Thursday’s FCC vote: the Wireless Internet Service Providers Association (WISPA), which had argued for a “light-touch” regulatory approach to the internet.
...
“Let us be clear: The internet was free and open before the FCC imposed more onerous, one-size-fits-all rules in 2015, and it will be free and open when we return to a lighter-touch regulatory framework,” said Chuck Hogg, chairman of WISPA, in a statement.

Hogg went on to say that WISPA’s members do not block, throttle, or accept payments to prioritize internet traffic. “WISPA agrees that ISPs should clearly disclose their terms of service, disclose their network management practices, and protect their customers’ private information; and our members do. All of this will continue under the FCC framework adopted today,” he said.
...
Most U.S. WISPs are small and medium-sized businesses serving hundreds of customers in rural areas, with fewer than 10 employees each. Having to adhere to onerous government regulations imposes compliance costs and hassles that the smaller companies don’t want, according to WISPA.​

"Small Guys"? WISPA has AT&T as a vendor. It includes T-Mobile, Verizon, Cox and Comcast.

Small Guys?

 

[Larniavc]

From the "Small guys applaud the FCC", files: WISPA applauds FCC’s vote on repealing net neutrality

Among those who consider themselves in the winner’s corner after Thursday’s FCC vote: the Wireless Internet Service Providers Association (WISPA), which had argued for a “light-touch” regulatory approach to the internet.
...
“Let us be clear: The internet was free and open before the FCC imposed more onerous, one-size-fits-all rules in 2015, and it will be free and open when we return to a lighter-touch regulatory framework,” said Chuck Hogg, chairman of WISPA, in a statement.

Hogg went on to say that WISPA’s members do not block, throttle, or accept payments to prioritize internet traffic. “WISPA agrees that ISPs should clearly disclose their terms of service, disclose their network management practices, and protect their customers’ private information; and our members do. All of this will continue under the FCC framework adopted today,” he said.
...
Most U.S. WISPs are small and medium-sized businesses serving hundreds of customers in rural areas, with fewer than 10 employees each. Having to adhere to onerous government regulations imposes compliance costs and hassles that the smaller companies don’t want, according to WISPA.​

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[GoldenBoy89]

I don't see why I should care what's good for these private companies.

 

[Yonny Costopoulis]

"Small Guys"? WISPA has AT&T as a vendor. It includes T-Mobile, Verizon, Cox and Comcast.

Small Guys?

No! You are disturbing the narrative!

 

[tampasteve]

"Small Guys"? WISPA has AT&T as a vendor. It includes T-Mobile, Verizon, Cox and Comcast.

Small Guys?

They are Vendors, not the WISPA companies. The WISPAs get their internet from other, larger, carriers like ATT, Comcast, Frontier, Verizon, etc. that they then redistribute over wireless.

 

[JGG]

No! You are disturbing the narrative!

My apologies. Continue the victory celebration. Drink more Kool-aid.

 

[JGG]

They are Vendors, not the WISPA companies. The WISPAs get their internet from other, larger, carriers like ATT, Comcast, Frontier, Verizon, etc. that they then redistribute over wireless.

Ah got it. AT&T is like theur overlord.

 

[NightHawkeye]

Ah got it. AT&T is like theur overlord.

LOL ... like all AT&T customers.

 

[tampasteve]

Ah got it. AT&T is like theur overlord.

Hail the mighty provider of internet services!

 

[JGG]

Hail the mighty provider of internet services!

AT&T will cower at the might of my fully operational Death Star!

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