She had a swastika painted on her garage. And she's leaving it there.

[MehGuy]

Just because you were not aware of neo-Nazis, does not mean they weren't there. You just know about them because they are more emboldened by the likes of people like Trump.

And for every hug, you have attempted murder: 3 arrested after shooting following white nationalist speech

Who are you talking to in the bold? I'm sure Trump had a factor but he's certainly not the only factor.

If you're talking to me, I'm certainly aware of the existence of neo-Nazis. Unfortunately I grew up with a childhood friend who's older brothers and friends were neo-Nazis. I never liked them and they never liked me (primarily because they thought I might have been Jewish, lol). One of them even resembled and acted just like that fat guy on American History X. It was pretty uncanny, lol.

 

[MehGuy]

I can't remember the nazis in the third reich disappearing after they were well-loved and celebrated by everyone.

Totally different context. We don't live in a third Reich. They'll never fully disappear, but there ways of dealing with social justice issues that won't inflame their growth and presence.

 

[Nithavela]

Totally different context. We don't live in a third Reich. They'll never fully disappear, but there ways of dealing with social justice issues that won't inflame their growth and presence.

It's really amazing how you're able to turn every topic around and point it against "social justice warriors", feminists and other assorted people you dislike.

 

[MehGuy]

It's really amazing how you're able to turn every topic around and point it against "social justice warriors", feminists and other assorted people you dislike.

Yeah it's almost like currently they have a huge influence on culture and it's almost like I focus my energy/passion on relevant groups.. lol.

 

[SummerMadness]

Totally different context. We don't live in a third Reich. They'll never fully disappear, but there ways of dealing with social justice issues that won't inflame their growth and presence.

This is simply respectability politics, this idea that people have to act a certain way, and blame them if more Nazis come about. Neo-Nazis aren't going to act differently is you do things "in a different way."

Respectability politics has been used as a weapon to silence dissent since the Civil Rights Movement. I love hearing people invoke the name of MLK while ignoring the fact that he was a radical extremist that people claimed was doing things "the wrong way" also.

 

[SummerMadness]

It's really amazing how you're able to turn every topic around and point it against "social justice warriors", feminists and other assorted people you dislike.

The word feminist is a perennial term that constantly finds it way onto topics that have nothing to do with women, women's rights or violence against women.

 

[MehGuy]

This is simply respectability politics, this idea that people have to act a certain way, and blame them if more Nazis come about. Neo-Nazis aren't going to act differently is you do things "in a different way."

The core might not act much different, I'm most talking about their ability to recruit more people. The newly lukewarm neo-Nazis still might be more persuaded though.

Respectability politics has been used as a weapon to silence dissent since the Civil Rights Movement. I love hearing people invoke the name of MLK while ignoring the fact that he was a radical extremist that people claimed was doing things "the wrong way" also.

Yet again, one "extremist" wasn't like the other "extremist".

 

[MehGuy]

The word feminist is a perennial term that constantly finds it way onto topics that have nothing to do with women, women's rights or violence against women.

Oh really? Feminists don't try to tip their toes into every imaginable social issue as of late? Lol.

 

[Nithavela]

Oh really? Feminists don't try to tip their toes into every imaginable social issue as of late? Lol.

Yes, silly women talking about things they have no buisness talking about. Good thing you preemptively bash the places their toes are most likely to pop up.

 

[MehGuy]

Yes, silly women talking about things they have no buisness talking about. Good thing you preemptively bash the places their toes are most likely to pop up.

They are free to talk, and I'm free to disagree with them. I only brought up the reason I bring up feminism so often. If your group brings themselves up in every issue, don't whine when people bring up that same group up all the time.

I seriously hope you're not trying to paint me as some misogynist who's angry that women are simply talking about their problems.. lol.

 

[Nithavela]

They are free to talk, and I'm free to disagree with them. I only brought up the reason I bring up feminism so often. If your group brings themselves up in every issue, don't whine when people bring up that same group up all the time.

I seriously hope you're not trying to paint me as some misogynist who's angry that women are simply talking about their problems.. lol.

I don't think that would be neccessary.

 

[MehGuy]

I don't think that would be neccessary.

Sorry for treating women like adults and questioning their feminist actions..

 

[Belk]

The often hypocritical and shallow manner they speak out about these issues, yes..

Very well, let us see your data showing this causation.

 

[MehGuy]

Very well, let us see your data showing this causation.

Not sure if we have scientific knowledge to measure such things. What kind of data are you looking for?

 

[Nithavela]

How about we all get back to the topic of a swastika painted on a garage door instead of talking about women and feminism?

 

[MehGuy]

How about we all get back to the topic of a swastika painted on a garage door instead of talking about women and feminism?

Would you be saying this if the narrative in this thread was another "this is because Trump is in the white-house!" Lol.

 

[Belk]

Not sure if we have scientific knowledge to measure such things. What kind of data are you looking for?

Just any kind of data that shows how your stance is likely correct. I'm not looking for scientific but something that shows this is more than simply your opinion would be good.

 

[MehGuy]

Just any kind of data that shows how your stance is likely correct. I'm not looking for scientific but something that shows this is more than simply your opinion would be good.

I'm not sure if any such data exists. I'm not sure how someone can reliable measure such things. Which is true for a lot of opinions here.

 

[Belk]

I'm not sure if any such data exists. I'm not sure how someone can reliable measure such things. Which is true for a lot of opinions here.

Very well then, can you explain how you came to hold your opinion on this?

 

[MehGuy]

Very well then, can you explain how you came to hold your opinion on this?

From talking to feminists, from reading their comment sections. From hearing testimony from various ex-feminists. From hearing why white supremacists hate black people and etc and noticing the very similar mindsets they have for why many feminists try to spread fear about men. That the current black activist seem to be so infused with feminism. Hearing black men who are anti-feminists speak about how feminism borrows many of the same toxic attitudes that racists do.

I'm certainly not excusing the men who are joining or flirting with neo-Nazism but I just fail to see how this result isn't going to happen. White men have feelings too, we don't like being demonized anymore than anyone else. Many white men are feeling unfairly attacked and ridiculed. Worst of all it's perceived to mainly be coming from social justice advocates. This kind of rejected population is ripe for being exploited by nefarious groups such as neo-Nazis. Many neo-Nazis who are openly admitting that this current social justice climate is making it easier for them to spread their message.