So I have to challenge you: how do you explain all of these passages, considering both God's willingness to talk about making angels die, and the parallel passages not being interpretable as talking about angels never dying? Do you think my interpretation of Luke is weak?
Scripture is written to give you KNOWLEDGE. KNOWLEDGE.
Any natural born carnal man can hear or read the KNOWLEDGE.
Any natural born carnal man can THEN try to figure out , ie interpret, conclude what he thinks, the meaning and UNDERSTANDING of the knowledge.
HOW does a natural born carnal man come to HIS UNDERSTANDING of the knowledge?
If you say; by using his carnal mind, thinking, weighing between this and that of what seems logical to HIM, you would be correct.
But guess what...
Rom 8 [7] ... the carnal mind is enmity against God:
See a dilemma?
Do you know how to solve the dilemma?
First you have to recognize God IS Spirit and
HIS UNDERSTANDING is SPIRITUAL.
Then you have to know HOW TO GET, receive, have,
HIS UNDERSTANDING.
There is ONLY ONE WAY, for you to "GET"
HIS UNDERSTANDING.
He has to "GIVE" it to you.
IF, you ARE forgiven, saved, born again of God, your spirit has been quickened, which means YOU are now a candidate to receive Gods
SPIRITUAL UNDERSTANDING.
Then YOU, hear, read, study the scriptures, and WHEN you want to understand the scriptures according to Gods Spiritual Understanding....with YOUR quickened spirit, YOU ASK GODS SPIRIT WITHIN YOU, for HIS SPIRITUAL UNDERSTANDING. Be diligent, patient, seek, ask, He is faithful and will give to you what you ask.
Your answer will come to your spirit , in your heart, NOT YOUR MIND.
It is your job to listen to your heart, and conform your minds thoughts to your hearts thoughts, so your mind effectively becomes like the mind of Christ.
The spirit of your mind term found in scripture IS a carnal mind that is being transformed by repeatedly receiving the spiritual knowledge and understanding from their spirit in their heart, given them BY Gods Spirit.
God does not want men with HIS Spirit to be ignorant of His understanding, yet so many who claim to be born of God, are still relying on their carnal mind to try and understand the scriptures. Why?
When they became converted and submitted to God, was there SOMETHING in Scripture that said, He gave them a NEW MIND? Use it and try to figure out what Gods Wisdom and Understanding is?
No and No.
His Understanding is a GIFT, reserved for the FAITHFUL, and WHY, no matter how well read of the scriptures a man is, Satan is, IF one does not have the Spirit of God IN THEM, they will FAIL at trying to FIGURE out His understanding.
When I say, angels are spirits, and spirits never die, that is a true fact.
And you best hope that is true, since it is God who quickens your own spirit, that shall NEVER Die.
When I say, angels who have rebelled against God, ie fallen angels, are DEAD TO GOD.
They are NOT physical beings nor subject to a physical death.
TO GOD, ie ACCORDING TO GOD, BY HIS SPIRITUAL UNDERSTANDING, GOD ACCOUNTS THEM AS DEAD TO HIM.
God is preparing a PLACE for all of HIS creations FAITHFUL to HIM!
IF an angel, IF a man IS NOT WITH HIM, they are AGAINST HIM, and accounted BY HIM as DEAD TO HIM, whether or not they are living.
Before a man IS born again, HE IS DEAD TO GOD!
DEAD to GOD, without GOD.
And IF a man becomes born again, HIS BODY IS STILL DEAD TO GOD, dead IN CHRIST, and by and though Christ do they live.
Col 1
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9] For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might
be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;
God Bless,
SBC