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What happened to neanderthal man?

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Oh how I wish i had a time machine and could go back and film Neanderthals in their own environment, it would be fascinating.
They say every species that ever lived will be in Heaven so we will be able to see them as God intended for them to be before Creation interned into a fallen condition.
 
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If the conditions are right plants and animals multiply very rapidly. They say that a female cat can produce 370,092 cats in 7 years.
Yes, the same applies to every species, if they are left completely alone with no predators and unlimited food, their population will grow at an unimaginable rate. However thankfully nature keeps a lid on most animal populations EXCEPT humans, we have technology and we have the power to shape nature. Unfortunately we are making a very bad job of it and I always hope that is there is a god he will teach us the error of our ways before it is too late.
 
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They say every species that ever lived will be in Heaven so we will be able to see them as God intended for them to be before Creation interned into a fallen condition.

They say lots of things - but I wasn't aware that other species will be in heaven, i thought only the saved of humanity will be there? Where in the bible is it that all creation will be in heaven, I don't recall ever hearing that before?
 
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They say every species that ever lived will be in Heaven so we will be able to see them as God intended for them to be before Creation interned into a fallen condition.
You don't want to listen to them. They don't know what they are talking about.
 
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You don't want to listen to them.
Of course I want to listen to them because it makes me feel happy to listen to them. If it does not make you happy then don't listen. I can understand that. I don't listen to a lot of the news because it does not make me happy. So I avoid listening to it. Oh don't take me wrong, I know holocaust survivors that were adamant about how important it is to keep up with current events. You life may depend on it. Of course we need to establish limits and boundaries. That is what life is all about. When we deal with skeptics, scoffers and infidels we need to establish limits and boundaries as to what we will tolerate.

Matthew 16 To what can I compare this generation? They are like children sitting in the marketplaces and calling out to others: 17‘- We played the flute for you, and you did not dance; we sang a dirge and you did not mourn.’18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, ‘He has a demon!’ 19 The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, ‘Look at this glutton and drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and of sinners!’ But wisdom is vindicated by her actions.”…
 
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Of course I want to listen to them because it makes me feel happy to listen to them. If it does not make you happy then don't listen. I can understand that. I don't listen to a lot of the news because it does not make me happy. So I avoid listening to it. Oh don't take me wrong, I know holocaust survivors that were adamant about how important it is to keep up with current events. You life may depend on it. Of course we need to establish limits and boundaries. That is what life is all about. When we deal with skeptics, scoffers and infidels we need to establish limits and boundaries as to what we will tolerate.

Matthew 16 To what can I compare this generation? They are like children sitting in the marketplaces and calling out to others: 17‘- We played the flute for you, and you did not dance; we sang a dirge and you did not mourn.’18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, ‘He has a demon!’ 19 The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, ‘Look at this glutton and drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and of sinners!’ But wisdom is vindicated by her actions.”…

hi Joshua, any news on my question about animals being in heaven, see a couple of responses up the page.

cheers
 
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I wasn't aware that other species will be in heaven
Some of the parks there maybe like a holograph. Even back in the early 70's Disney had holographs as a part of their park in Florida. I believe that our pets will be in Heaven because of our love for them. The Bible is clear that all of creation is going to be saved and redeemed. I see Heaven more as a place to study and learn. We will rule and reign with Christ for 1,000 years.
 
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Some of the parks there maybe like a holograph. Even back in the early 70's Disney had holographs as a part of their park in Florida. I believe that our pets will be in Heaven because of our love for them. The Bible is clear that all of creation is going to be saved and redeemed. I see Heaven more as a place to study and learn. We will rule and reign with Christ for 1,000 years.
Not for eternity?
 
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Some of the parks there maybe like a holograph. Even back in the early 70's Disney had holographs as a part of their park in Florida. I believe that our pets will be in Heaven because of our love for them. The Bible is clear that all of creation is going to be saved and redeemed. I see Heaven more as a place to study and learn. We will rule and reign with Christ for 1,000 years.

Actually I am now more confused than ever, you say the bible says that "all of creation is going to be saved and redeemed" but every other Christian I have talked to says only those who believe in Jesus and accept him as their saviour are saved, the rest of us are not. I can't see how animals, microbes, bacteria, spiders (etc. you get the drift) can repent, believe and do whatever else is required to be saved, and I've never heard anyone before say animals are going to be in paradise.

Do you think ALL creatures ever made will be there, dinosaurs and all other extinct animals, microbes, bacteria, germs..... That's not my understanding of Christian faith?
 
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Where in the bible is it that all creation will be in heaven
We are told all of Creation will be saved: Romans 8: "20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will, but because of the One who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God. 22 We know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until the present time.…"

This is the problem with evolutionary science is they do not take the fallen condition of creation into account. We do not live in a perfect world and we have to compensate for that. We just got a 7 month old kitten spay. In a perfect world we would not have to put the poor little innocent creature under the knife like that.
 
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Not for eternity?
After the 1,000 years there will be a New Heaven and a New Earth. It is then that death, hell and the grave will be thrown into the lake of fire and anyone not written in the book of life.

13 The sea gave up its dead, and Death and Hades gave up their dead, and each one was judged according to his deeds. 14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death — the lake of fire. 15 And if anyone was found whose name was not written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.…Revelation 20

First the earth was cleansed with water and then the earth will be cleansed with fire.

Peter 3:10 "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."

We are told that: God will destroy "those who destroy the earth.” Rev 11:8
 
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Actually I am now more confused than ever, you say the bible says that "all of creation is going to be saved and redeemed" but every other Christian I have talked to says only those who believe in Jesus and accept him as their saviour are saved, the rest of us are not. I can't see how animals, microbes, bacteria, spiders (etc. you get the drift) can repent, believe and do whatever else is required to be saved, and I've never heard anyone before say animals are going to be in paradise.

Do you think ALL creatures ever made will be there, dinosaurs and all other extinct animals, microbes, bacteria, germs..... That's not my understanding of Christian faith?
God is going to restore the world. That is what I did for a living. I was a carpenter but I did renovation and restoration. God is not going to tear it all down and start all over again new. In construction, we gut it out, usually in a day and then we rebuild. Even evolution shows us that there is a 90% extinction and then a population explosion or radiation. In this way everything is made new from a remnant of what was here before.

 
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We are told all of Creation will be saved: Romans 8: "20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will, but because of the One who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God. 22 We know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until the present time.…"

This is the problem with evolutionary science is they do not take the fallen condition of creation into account. We do not live in a perfect world and we have to compensate for that. We just got a 7 month old kitten spay. In a perfect world we would not have to put the poor little innocent creature under the knife like that.

My friend who is a Christian said that she thought that Heaven would be for humans only, as only we have a soul which can be saved?

Your post implies we will have dinosaurs alongside woolly mammoths, alongside all the ancient beats of history now extinct. There will be numerous humanoid species, Neanderthals, Homo Erectus, Homo Hablis and all the huge number of diverse pre homo-sapien creatures, omnivores, carnivores, vegetarians all living side by side. Is that what you believe or have I missed something?
 
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Is that what you believe or have I missed something?
This is what Kat Kerr teaches. She talks quite a bit about heaven. Also the Bible says that all of Creation is going to be saved. I believe that there will be parks or preserves that we will be able to go to in Heaven where we will be able to see dinosaurs. They will require different living conditions that we we require here on earth now.
 
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God is going to restore the world. That is what I did for a living. I was a carpenter but I did renovation and restoration. God is not going to tear it all down and start all over again new. In construction, we gut it out, usually in a day and then we rebuild. Even evolution shows us that there is a 90% extinction and then a population explosion or radiation. In this way everything is made new from a remnant of what was here before.

The lady that in that video is insane.
 
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The lady that in that video is insane.

I've read a few of her articles thanks to Joshua19. If (and I appreciate it's obvious she's peddling child-like nonsense to the gullible) heaven is as she describes it sounds like an awful place to spend eternity - a bit like a really dull Chritian disneyland.
 
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It does? I ran my son's DNA, he is 33% Asian, 48% European, 17% Pacific Islander & 2% Middle East.

The Fertile Crescent (also known as the cradle of civilization) is a crescent-shaped region containing the comparatively moist and fertile land of otherwise arid and semi-arid Western Asia, the Nile Valley and Nile Delta. It was created by the inundations of the surrounding Nile, Euphrates, and Tigris rivers.

Jordan was settled during the bronze age.
Fertile Crescent - Wikipedia

"The Fertile Crescent (also known as the cradle of civilization) is a crescent-shaped region containing the comparatively moist and fertile areas of what is an otherwise arid and semi-arid Western Asia, the Nile Valley and Nile Delta. It was created by the inundations of the surrounding Nile, Euphrates, and Tigris rivers."

100% plagiarism.

I find that this happens so frequently among anti-evolutionists that I tend to google any response that is 1. more than a paragraph long and 2. seems to have a style that does not consist of condescension or be at the level of a middle schooler.
 
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100% plagiarism.
Do you even know what the rules of the forum are? It is NOT plagiarism if you quote your source. I often quote reliable sources to avoid confusion because they are better at communicating ideas then I am. It is very common for me to quote wiki because if you disagree then you can take that up with them and change the article. Wiki tends to be a source that everyone agrees with.
 
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Do you even know what the rules of the forum are? It is NOT plagiarism if you quote your source.

LOL!

Well, where in your plagiarized post are, you know, QUOTATION MARKS???

Where, in your post, is ANY reference to Wikipedia?

If you had mentioned your source, I would not have had to google and find it myself, now would I have?

And this is not the first time I have caught you.

How many more will I find?

I often quote reliable sources to avoid confusion because they are better at communicating ideas then I am. It is very common for me to quote wiki because if you disagree then you can take that up with them and change the article. Wiki tends to be a source that everyone agrees with.


I am OK with linking to and quoting Wiki, depending on what is being discussed.

What I am NOT OK with is copy-pasting from wiki and NOT providing a link or quotation marks and passing it off as your own.

Which you did.
 
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