Sin is a matter of ones personal conscience.

[SkyWriting]

It is not a sin to give accurate warnings... Since you leave what is right and what is wrong up to peoples personal preferences then how can you be sure your warnings are valid.. Since they stand on nothing but the quicksand of person human opinion..

I also feel it is wrong to give an opinion without scripture to back it.

Above all else, guard your heart,
for everything you do flows from it.
Proverbs 4:23

May he give you the desire of your heart
and make all your plans succeed.
Psalm 20:4

As water reflects the face,
so one’s life reflects the heart.
Proverbs 27:19

 

[SkyWriting]

It is not a sin to give accurate warnings... Since you leave what is right and what is wrong up to peoples personal preferences then how can you be sure your warnings are valid.. Since they stand on nothing but the quicksand of person human opinion..

I also feel it is wrong to give an opinion without scripture to back it.

Above all else, guard your heart,
for everything you do flows from it.
Proverbs 4:23

May he give you the desire of your heart
and make all your plans succeed.
Psalm 20:4

As water reflects the face,
so one’s life reflects the heart.
Proverbs 27:19

 

[Rajni]

Or perhaps they just want to do whatever they want to do regardless of whether it's right or wrong, or how it affects others. Does that mean it's right? If that were the case, then someone who is angry with his neighbor could pull out a gun and shoot his neighbor, and then justify it in his own heart by figuring the guy had it coming to him anyway, so it's not a sin.

But why would they just want to do whatever they want to do regardless of whether it's right or wrong or how it affects others? Could it be because they're incapacitated in some way, so they're not able to steer straight? Wouldn't such a tendency be a handicap of some kind, in need of Divine healing?

What you're describing are people who aren't right in the head/heart to begin with. The sick need a Physician, not a Phlogging.

 

[SkyWriting]

It is not a sin to give accurate warnings... Since you leave what is right and what is wrong up to peoples personal preferences then how can you be sure your warnings are valid.. Since they stand on nothing but the quicksand of person human opinion..

I also feel it is wrong to give an opinion without scripture to back the point.

Above all else, guard your heart,
for everything you do flows from it.
Proverbs 4:23

May he give you the desire of your heart
and make all your plans succeed.
Psalm 20:4

As water reflects the face,
so one’s life reflects the heart.
Proverbs 27:19

 

[SkyWriting]

It is not a sin to give accurate warnings... Since you leave what is right and what is wrong up to peoples personal preferences then how can you be sure your warnings are valid.. Since they stand on nothing but the quicksand of person human opinion..

I also feel it is wrong to give an opinion without scripture to back the point.


Above all else, guard your heart,
for everything you do flows from it.
Proverbs 4:23

May he give you the desire of your heart
and make all your plans succeed.
Psalm 20:4

As water reflects the face,
so one’s life reflects the heart.
Proverbs 27:19

 

[SkyWriting]

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That seems to be a gift given to those without faith.

If Jesus died and rose again for people who are without faith, then how do you explain what Paul said about the fact that we are saved by grace through faith? Ephesians 2:8-9 "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--not by works, so that no one can boast."

Those who do receive faith also receive other gifts
as well as those without faith.

 

[Rajni]

If Jesus died and rose again for people who are without faith,

While we were yet sinners, Jesus Christ died for us, correct?

 

[SkyWriting]

Now you are completely contradicting yourself.

You can't say it's a matter of "one's PERSONAL conscience" and then say we have to check with God. Being a matter of MY personal conscience means I don't have to check with anyone.

Then there must be two. The sins of the informed, and the sins of the uninformed.
Sadly:

19For what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.

 

[Aldebaran]

But why would they just want to do whatever they want to do regardless of whether it's right or wrong or how it affects others? Could it be because they're incapacitated in some way, so they're not able to steer straight? Wouldn't such a tendency be a handicap of some kind, in need of Divine healing?

What you're describing are people who aren't right in the head/heart to begin with. The sick need a Physician, not a Phlogging.

I'll take it that you're just saying this sarcastically. But I do agree that those people need a physician. His name is Jesus.

 

[Aldebaran]

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That seems to be a gift given to those without faith.


Those who do receive faith also receive other gifts
as well as those without faith.

Why don't you just answer the question? Here it is again (for the 3rd time):

If Jesus died and rose again for people who are without faith, then how do you explain what Paul said about the fact that we are saved by grace through faith? Ephesians 2:8-9"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--not by works, so that no one can boast."

 

[Aldebaran]

While we were yet sinners, Jesus Christ died for us, correct?

Correct. He died for us while we were yet sinners.

 

[Rajni]

I'll take it that you're just saying this sarcastically. But I do agree that those people need a physician. His name is Jesus.

I'm being dead serious.

 

[Rajni]

Correct. He died for us while we were yet sinners.

And before we had faith, correct?

 

[Aldebaran]

I'm being dead serious.

In that case, I'll address what you wrote:

But why would they just want to do whatever they want to do regardless of whether it's right or wrong or how it affects others? Could it be because they're incapacitated in some way, so they're not able to steer straight? Wouldn't such a tendency be a handicap of some kind, in need of Divine healing?

What you're describing are people who aren't right in the head/heart to begin with. The sick need a Physician, not a Phlogging.

Ok, what you need to understand is that there are people in this world who are simply selfish. They don't care about others. We are basically born that way, which is why our parents who raised us had to teach us to share and be considerate of others. If you want to know what sin is, just read the ten commandments about what we're to do. Do people naturally follow them? If a person is angry enough with another, they will kill them. If a person wants something from another person bad enough, they will steal. Those are just a couple examples of sins. The Apostle Paul gives a good sized list of others. But you get the idea.

 

[Aldebaran]

And before we had faith, correct?

That wasn't in the scripture, so I don't know.

 

[SkyWriting]

If Jesus died and rose again for people who are without faith, then how do you explain what Paul said about the fact that we are saved by grace through faith? Ephesians 2:8-9"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--not by works, so that no one can boast."

I agree with both. Do you see some conflict?

 

[SkyWriting]

If Jesus died and rose again for people who are without faith, then how do you explain what Paul said about the fact that we are saved by grace through faith? Ephesians 2:8-9"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--not by works, so that no one can boast."

I agree with both so I have nothing to explain.

 

[Aldebaran]

I agree with both. Do you see some conflict?

Yes. You claim Jesus's sacrifice was for those without faith while the apostle Paul said that it is through faith that we are saved. So who is right? Is it you, or is it the Apostle Paul?

 

[-V-]

Then there must be two. The sins of the informed, and the sins of the uninformed.
Sadly:

19For what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.

Then you still have a contradiction. "Sin of the uninformed" can't exist if sin is nothing but a matter of one's personal conscience.

 

[SkyWriting]

Then you still have a contradiction. "Sin of the uninformed" can't exist if sin is nothing but a matter of one's personal conscience.

So be it. With God, all things are possible.