Conservative groups alarmed to be found on ‘hate map’

[TLK Valentine]

BLM.



Why would I report you? Unless you insult some group or make a bigoted comment I am not going to report you. All your comment tells me is that you have no response.

No response to what? God?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Also, @TLK Valentine , the week isn't over yet, and the side you decided to align yourself has tied and may end up winning the body count by one.

Being against nazis is generally worth the risk. A pity more Americans don't realize that.

 

[TLK Valentine]

There were far more red flags among the antifa than there were swastika flags at UTR. Also note that only antifa are wearing masks...

Of course -- the Nazis no longer have any reason to hide.

 

[TLK Valentine]

If you picked fights with 500 random guys on the streets, the odds of one of them shooting you, stabbing you or running you down with your car is pretty good. Is it so surprising that it happened with this rally?

You make a convincing argument against fighting Nazis.

 

[Yonny Costopoulis]

Five Dallas Officers Were Killed as Payback, Police Chief Says

Gunman Who Ambushed Baton Rouge Officers Searched For Police Home Addresses

Also, @TLK Valentine , the week isn't over yet, and the side you decided to align yourself has tied and may end up winning the body count by one.

You make sound like you play game of count dead body and you happy because maybe you win. Understand my English bad so must be wrong but choose word careful please! Is no "winning the body count." Is bad.

 

[GondwanaLand]

Five Dallas Officers Were Killed as Payback, Police Chief Says

Gunman Who Ambushed Baton Rouge Officers Searched For Police Home Addresses

Also, @TLK Valentine , the week isn't over yet, and the side you decided to align yourself has tied and may end up winning the body count by one.

Your first one says he was upset about BLM. Not exactly sure what that means but it makes it sound to me like he may not have been a fan. Either way, there is nothing I can see in there about him being part of BLM.

Your second one I already know was never part of Black Lives Matter - indeed he was part of the Sovereign Citizen movement, which is largely a RW movement.

So your first one is questionable and doesn't support your claim, the second one definitely does not support your claim as the shooter had no involvement with BLM whatsoever.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Thank you for post. Agree some member communist. But find nothing on Antifa. Try search and not find information at reliable source. If you have can please provide? Not try to argue just hope for reliable source.

Well, in all fairness, a picture is worth a thousand words, and there are numerous pictures of those guys waving communist flags...

...but that aside, here are some links.

Antifa (United States) - Wikipedia
(if you look under the ideology section)

Analysis | Who are the antifa?

Points of Unity – TORCH NETWORK

 

[Yonny Costopoulis]

Well, in all fairness, a picture is worth a thousand words, and there are numerous pictures of those guys waving communist flags...

...but that aside, here are some links.

Antifa (United States) - Wikipedia
(if you look under the ideology section)

Analysis | Who are the antifa?

Points of Unity – TORCH NETWORK

Thank you for sources. Will read.

 

[Ana the Ist]

No, because I had a tough time with their inclusion of the anti-gay groups. But the more I think about it, the more I'm okay with it.

Fair enough...I really don't know what kind of criteria they have. For example, how long a group must be active, before they're included.

I can't say I've ever disagreed with their inclusion of a group though.

 

[Rion]

Being against nazis is generally worth the risk. A pity more Americans don't realize that.

Yeah, most Americans are against Nazis. Just because they are not for your little extremist group as well, doesn't change that.

 

[Rion]

Your first one says he was upset about BLM. Not exactly sure what that means but it makes it sound to me like he may not have been a fan. Either way, there is nothing I can see in there about him being part of BLM.

Your second one I already know was never part of Black Lives Matter - indeed he was part of the Sovereign Citizen movement, which is largely a RW movement.

So your first one is questionable and doesn't support your claim, the second one definitely does not support your claim as the shooter had no involvement with BLM whatsoever.

You are going to sit there and claim that the dude who shot five cops in Dallas was upset about blm? That's incredible. The guy was pro-blm. As for the other, the guy may have been a sovereign citizen, that would not preclude him from being blm.

 

[rjs330]

Wunderbar. How many people have they killed in the US so far?

So now we move the goal posts from claiming they were not communists to well they are communists who haven't killed anyone.

Lose one argument then start another. It's a great tactic. And the answer is if course no supporter of Antifa has killed anyone. They have created chaos and damaged property and committed a few crimes, but at least they haven't murdered anyone. We can be grateful for that.

 

[rjs330]

Being against nazis is generally worth the risk. A pity more Americans don't realize that.

Most Americans do. Only about .003 % of the population supports Nazi white supremacists. While 11% think communism is ok. Meanwhile the communists have killed far more people than the Nazis ever did yet the Nazis are looked at with a more critical eye. Can't really figure that one out except that perhaps our schools are not educating us enough in the brutality of communism and emphasis more the Nazi brutality. Both should be studied as socialist governments that were brutal and vicious and neither should be looked upon with any favor.

 

[LoAmmi]

Most Americans do. Only about .003 % of the population supports Nazi white supremacists. While 11% think communism is ok. Meanwhile the communists have killed far more people than the Nazis ever did yet the Nazis are looked at with a more critical eye. Can't really figure that one out except that perhaps our schools are not educating us enough in the brutality of communism and emphasis more the Nazi brutality. Both should be studied as socialist governments that were brutal and vicious and neither should be looked upon with any favor.

11% are ok with communism or ok with socialism?

 

[rjs330]

Communism

11% are ok with communism or ok with socialism?

.

 

[LoAmmi]

Communism

.

Interesting. I suppose that makes sense since socialist ideas probably has a lot higher approval.

 

[szechuan]

Most Americans do. Only about .003 % of the population supports Nazi white supremacists. While 11% think communism is ok. Meanwhile the communists have killed far more people than the Nazis ever did yet the Nazis are looked at with a more critical eye. Can't really figure that one out except that perhaps our schools are not educating us enough in the brutality of communism and emphasis more the Nazi brutality. Both should be studied as socialist governments that were brutal and vicious and neither should be looked upon with any favor.

Karl Marx's Philosophy of Communism never condoned killing.
In fact Marx was against it.

 

[TerranceL]

Karl Marx's Philosophy of Communism never condoned killing.
In fact Marx was against it.

lol.

Marx’s philosophy and the *necessity* of violent politics – Stephen Hicks, Ph.D.

Here’s Marx in an 1848 newspaper article: “there is only one way in which the murderous death agonies of the old society and the bloody birth throes of the new society can be shortened, simplified and concentrated, and that way is revolutionary terror.”

 

[szechuan]

“there is only one way in which the murderous death agonies of the old society and the bloody birth throes of the new society can be shortened, simplified and concentrated, and that way is revolutionary terror.”

Context is everything

Marx was a practical revolutionary in the course of the (abortive) German revolution of 1848. Like many others in the middle of the 19th century, he then had his concept of revolution shaped by the French Revolution opf 1789-93. So he would have had in mind the terror against the aristocrats who were planning with the help of outside powers to restore the former regime in France.

After the failure of the revolutionary wave of 1848-9 Marx and Engels came to abandon this concept of revolution. In the 1860s Marx got involved instead in encouraging the industrial class struggle through the International Working Men's Association in the belief that this would eventually become political and aim at winning political power even through the ballot box.

In his 1895 Introduction to Marx's The Class Struggles in France, a collection of articles Marx had written in 1848-50 about the revolutionary events in France at that time, wrote that he and Marx had been wrong about both the prospects and the nature of revolution they had then held.

lol.
Marx’s philosophy and the *necessity* of violent politics – Stephen Hicks, Ph.D.

Sadly I Can't click on those, they are all flagged as Risky affected websites on the current computer i'm using.

Here's a better well known person on Karl Marx and one of the most well known famous and recognized Philosophers in the world today.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

You make a convincing argument against fighting Nazis.

If the British and American troops fighting in Europe in WWII, knew that one day their grandchildren and great-grandchildren would, in their own countries, be called Nazis for believing the same things they did, they would have laid down their arms and gone home.