COL 2:14-17 The REAL truth from God's Word

[LoveGodsWord]

You quoted John 14:15
Do you strive to obey each and every literal command of Christ?
If you do not, does this mean, according to your quote you don't love Jesus?

The answer to your question is no, I love Jesus, so I follow Him. There is no striving when you love someone to do anything it is a delight. Love is the fulfilling of God's Law. It is God that works in us to will and to do of His own good pleasure as we have faith in His Word (Phil 2:13).

 

[stuart lawrence]

I have answered you with God's Word. Our opinions do not matter with God. Only God's Word is true. (Rom 3:4)

It is noted you are reluctant to answer a very simple question.
Incidentally, seventh day Adventist do officially accept as Christians people who are not conscious they sin by failing to observe a specific seventh day sabbath, so I can assume you do not belong to that church

 

[stuart lawrence]

No I love Jesus, so I follow Him. It is God that works in us to will and to do of His own good pleasure (Phil 2:13). Do you love Jesus Stewart?

Once again, you are avoiding answering the question.
Do you obey each and every literal command of Christ?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

It is noted you are reluctant to answer a very simple question. Incidentally, seventh day Adventist do officially accept as Christians people who are not conscious they sin by failing to observe a specific seventh day sabbath, so I can assume you do not belong to that church

Friend you assume to much. Please read all my posts and all the scriptures very carefully. In times of ignorance God does indeed wink at but when a knowledge of the truth comes calls all men to repentance (Acts 17:30). All of my posts have stated this "if we willfully and knowingly sin" I believe God has his people in every Church but he is calling His true followers out to worship him in Spirit and in truth (John 4:23-24)

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Once again, you are avoiding answering the question.
Do you obey each and every literal command of Christ?

Your question hs been answered in post 21 maybe you just do not like the answer?

 

[pescador]

Once again, you are avoiding answering the question.
Do you obey each and every literal command of Christ?

Where does one find each and every literal command of Christ?

 

[stuart lawrence]

Friend you assume to much. Please read all my posts and all the scriptures very carefully. In times of ignorance God does indeed wink at but when a knowledge of the truth comes calls all men to repentance (Acts 17:30). All of my posts have stated this "if we willfully and knowingly sin" I believe God has his people in every Church but he is calling His true followers out to worship him in Spirit and in truth (John 4:23-24)

Well as you believe the law God desires the believer to keep is written in their mind and placed on their heart, if you understand spiritual truth you must believe anyone who fails to observe a specific seventh day sabbath commits wilfull sin without conscience. Therefore, according to your beliefs you must believe they cannot be saved.
I have to assume much for you fail to answer directly many questions put to you

 

[stuart lawrence]

Where does one find each and every literal command of Christ?

In the gospels, so everyone I have chatted to accepts

 

[stuart lawrence]

Your question have been answered in post 21. How about you answer my question? Do you love Jesus Stewart?

You have not directly answered my questions.
Well you must believe I am an unsaved heathen, so why even ask me if I love Jesus?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Well as you believe the law God desires the believer to keep is written in their mind and placed on their heart, if you understand spiritual truth you must believe anyone who fails to observe a specific seventh day sabbath commits wilfull sin without conscience. Therefore, according to your beliefs you must believe they cannot be saved.
I have to assume much for you fail to answer directly many questions put to you

Friend I answered all of your questions directly with scripture and personally in my own personal experience. Only God's Word is true and we should beleive and follow it. Our opinions do not mean anything. If you read what I have shared in the posts above you will see what you have said above is not true at all. It is up to you if you accept God's Word or not. This is between you and God. I do not judge you.

In Christ always.

 

[stuart lawrence]

Friend I answered all of your questions directly with scripture and personally in my own personal experience. Only God's Word is importance. Our opinions do not mean anything. If you read what I have shared in the posts above you will see what you have said above is not true at all. It is up to you if you accept God's Word or not. This is between you and God. I do not judge you.

In Christ always.

I will repeat, you have not directly answered my questions based in your understanding of scripture
IE
Do you believe, based on your understanding of scripture anyone can be a Christian if they are not conscious they sin by failing to observe a specific seventh day sabbath?
Do you obey, or strive to obey each and every literal command of Christ in the gospels?

 

[Soyeong]

Hi Everyone,

I am new here so nice to meet you all. I thought this may be a good because there seems to be a lot of confusion over the scriptures found in Colosians Chapter 2; especially verses 14-17. This chapter has its basis from the Old Testaments scriptures so this is a study looking at the context and scripture references that are being referred to in this Chapter. I hope you all get a blessing out of of this OP. I believe when sharing God's Word we should correctly divide the Word of truth line upon line and precept upon precept. Anyhow I would like to share this study with you all

Welcome.

So it is clear the context of Col 2:16-17 is the completion of the civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical laws of Moses which the writer says is finished and nailed to the cross.

Here is the actual Greek to English translation of the Col 2:16-17 verses from the interlinear:

16 Not therefore anyone you let judge in regards to food or in regards to drink or in regards to a feast (or festival) or a new moon or a Sabbath (plural). 17 which are a shadow of things coming but body of Christ.

The word rendered "holy-day" - ἑορτὴ heortē - in the Greek means a "feast" or "festival;"
Now, notice the key context within Col 2:16-17; No one is to judge you in regards to meat or drink, a feast (festival), or of the New Moon or of sabbath(s).

The Greek word for sabbath used G4521; σάββατο; sabbaton which means to cease from secular labor, stop work, rest.

Context within Col 2:16-17:
(1) meat or drink
(2) feast or festival
(3) new moons
(4) sabbath(s)

So the overall context of Col 2:14-17 is in judging in regards to meat and drink, feast days (festivals), new moons and sabbath(s) that are a part of the civil, ceremonial, ecclesiastical laws of Moses (v 14)

Col 2 is talking about the ceremonial laws from Moses that referred to the annual festivals of Lev 23; Deut 10; Num 27 and 28. Now let’s have a look at the Old Testament scriptures to see what Col 2 is talking about. Remember the overall context is in regards to meat and drink, feast days (festivals), new moons and sabbath(s) that are a part of the civil, ceremonial, ecclesiastical laws of Moses that were completed and nailed to the cross. If we can find references to the above context it will help us to understand what Col 2:14-17 is talking about because these are Shadows that pointed to Jesus.

Old Testament references to Col 2:14-17; Line upon Line Precept upon Precept:

Col 2:16-17,
Let no man therefore judge you in (1) meat, or in drink, or in respect of an (2) feast, or of the (3) new moon, or of the (4) sabbath(s): Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Eze 45:17-21,
It shall be the prince’s duty to furnish the (1) burnt offerings, grain offerings, and drink offerings, at the (2) feasts, the (3) new moons, and the (4) Sabbaths, at all the appointed (3) feasts of the house of Israel: he shall provide the sin offerings, grain offerings, burnt offerings, and peace offerings, to make atonement on behalf of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the sin offering, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make reconciliation for the house of Israel. Thus says the Lord GOD; In the first month, in the first day of the month, thou shalt take a young bullock without blemish, and cleanse the sanctuary: And the priest shall take of the blood of the sin offering, and put it upon the posts of the house, and upon the four corners of the settle of the altar, and upon the posts of the gate of the inner court. And so thou shalt do the seventh day of the month for every one that erred, and for him that is simple: so shall ye reconcile the house. In the first month, in the fourteenth day of the month, ye shall have the Passover, a Feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten.

1Ch 23:31
and whenever burnt offerings were presented to the LORD on the (4) Sabbaths, at the (3) New Moon (2) feasts and at the appointed festivals. They were to serve before the LORD regularly in the proper number and in the way prescribed for them.

2Ch 2:4,
Now I am about to build a temple for the Name of the LORD my God and to dedicate it to him for burning fragrant incense before him, for setting out the consecrated bread regularly, and for making burnt offerings every morning and evening and on the (4) Sabbaths, at the (3) New Moons and at the appointed (2) festivals of the LORD our God. This is a lasting ordinance for Israel.

Hos 2:11,
I will stop all her celebrations: her (2) yearly festivals, her (3) New Moons, her (4) Sabbaths and all her (2) appointed festivals.

It is interesting to note in the Old Testament the word Sabbath (shabbath 7676 from shabath 7673 meaning “rest”) is not only used for the weekly Sabbath but is also applied to the first and last days of the annual Jewish Festivals. The Greek Word used in Col 2:16 is Sabbaton meaning to cease from secular work; rest.

The monthly New Moon Sabbaths in relation to these festivals could fall on any day of the week. These were to start the beginning of the annual Jewish feasts. They were to be rest (Sabbath) days and restricted or no work was to be done. (Lev 23; Num 10; 28; 29)

High Sabbaths, in most Christian and Messianic Jewish usage, are seven annual Biblical festivals and rest days, recorded in the books of Leviticus and Deuteronomy.This is an extension of the term "high day" found in the King James Version at John 19:31-42. The seven festivals do not necessarily occur on weekly Shabbat (seventh-day Sabbath) and are called by the name miqra ("called assembly") in Hebrew (Lev. 23). They are observed by Jews and a minority of Christians. Three of them occur in spring: the first and seventh days of Pesach (Passover), and Shavuot (Pentecost) which occurs in summer. Three occur in fall, in the seventh month, and are also called shabbaton: Rosh Hashanah (Trumpets); Yom Kippur, the "Sabbath of Sabbaths" (Atonement); and the first and eighth days of Sukkoth (Tabernacles). Sometimes the word shabbaton is extended to mean all seven festivals. The Gospel of John says of the night immediately following Christ's burial that "that sabbath day was a high day" (19:31-42). That night was Nisan 15, just after the first day of Passover week (Unleavened Bread) and an annual miqra and rest day, in most chronologies. (In other systems, it was Nisan 14, i.e., weekly but not annual Sabbath.) The King James Version may thus be the origin of naming the annual rest days "High Sabbaths" in English (source: wiki).

All of the above have their origin from the ceremonial laws of Moses found in Lev 23; Num 10; 28; 29. All these references are in connection to; (1) Food and Drink offerings, (2) Feast days, (3) New Moons and (4) annual feast Sabbath(s)

So in summary, it should be very clear that Col 2:14-17 is referring to the ceremonial laws of Moses along with the annual Jewish feast days that all pointed to the coming of Jesus. When Jesus died on the cross the Jewish feasts along with the food and drink offerings, festivals and New Moon festival Sabbath(s) which all pointed to Jesus where a shadow of things to come. Many of the feast days in Lev 23 were were none work days in the Greek Col 2:16 were Sabbaton cease from secular work.

Col 2:14-17 is referring to the ceremonial laws of Moses in the annual ceremonial Feast days of Lev 23; Deut and Numbers that all pointed to Jesus and were nailed to the Cross including the annual new moon feast Sabbaths that could fall on any day of the week.

Line upon line and Precept upon precept.....

God's 7th Day Sabbath commandment (Ex 20:8-11) and the annual ceremonial Sabbaths for feast days of Col 2:14-17

What is the difference between God’s 4th commandment and the annual feast sabbath(s) of Col 2:16-17? To answer this question you need to understand the difference between God’s Law (10 commandments) and the laws of Moses. Let’s have a look at what that Word of God says. God’s Law (10 commandments) had a similar (not same) role is it did in the Old Testament as it does in the New and that is;

God’s Law (10 commandments) had a similar (not same) role is it did in the Old Testament as it does in the New and that is to

(1) point out what sin is and the punishment of sin which is death (Rom 3:20; 1John 3:4). It was never a cure for sin. But it was the work of God which is forever and the foundation of the Old Covenant, the New Covenant and the Judgement to come.

Scripture proof:
Ex 32:16; Ex 31:18; 31:18; Ex 20:1-22; Deut 10:5; Rom 3:20; 1John 3:4; Rom 6:23; Heb 7:19; Ecc 12:13-14, James 2:10-12, 1John 3:4, Acts 17:31; Ps 111:7-8; Rev 12:17; 14:12; 22:14; 1John 3:5-8; 1John 2:3-4; Ecc 3:14

(2) The laws of Moses however were the prescriptive cure for sin with all the Levitical and ceremonial laws, burnt offerings, annual feast days foretelling the plan of salvation which were connected to Feast days with New Moon sabbaths, food and drink offerings and other Holy days. These where all types pointing to Jesus and the plan of salvation.

Scripture proof:
Lev 1:1-13; Lev 23:1-44; Num 28:1-31; 29:1-40; Deut 24:10-11; Ex 24:3; Deut 31:24-26; Col 2:16-16; Heb 10:1; Eph 2:14-15; Lev 4; 5; 6; Heb 4:14; 9;10; John 1:29

Every reference in connection to Col 2:14-17 is in relation to (1) burnt offerings; (2) Sabbaths held at the New Moon feasts and at the appointed festivals and (3) food and drink offerings. The context is referring to the annual ceremonial feast days described in Leviticus Chapter 23; Numbers chapters 28 and 29. As mentioned earlier these were all done away at the cross because they were Shadows of an unfinished word that was completed at the death of Jesus (Col 2:16-17).

Let’s now look at what the 4th commandment actually says?

Exo 20:8-11,
Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day.

Now please notice some key points;

Where does it say in the 4th commandment of God’s Law that we need to do (1) burnt offerings (2) keep the annual Sabbaths at the New Moons at the appointed festivals and (3) offer food and drink offerings? It does not because it is God’s Law that points out sin. It is the same Law that we have today and is forever because it was made by God himself and represents the character of God and is the knowledge of good and evil. It shows us what sin is (Rom 3:20; 1John 3:4; Rom 6:23).

Now notice the last part of the commandment in Ex 20:11 this is the reason the commandment was given. (v11) For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day.This is a reference back to Gen 2:1-3
What does Genesis 2:1-3 teach us about God’s 4th commandment the 7th Day Sabbath which is one of the 10 commandments?

GEN 2
1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Scripture context points:
* God finished all the work of creation on the 7th Day of the week (v1)
* God ended His Work on the 7th Day of the creation week and rested from all His work of creation, it was completed no more work required (v2)
* God blessed the 7th Day and set it apart as a holy day as a memorial of creation

Critical questions and answers:

When was God’s 7th Day Sabbath made, before the fall of mankind or after the fall of mankind?
It was made BEFORE the fall of mankind at the end of the creation week on the 7th Day and was the result of a FINISHED work!

Was God’s work of creation a FINISHED WORK or an UNFUNISHED WORK?
The 7th Day Sabbath was the result of the FINISHED AND COMPLETED WORK of creation!

When were God’s Laws and the laws of Moses given, before the fall of mankind or after the fall of mankind? Obviously AFTER the fall of mankind (Ex 20:1-17, Lev 23:1-44, etc) they were part of God’s plan of salvation.

So in summary the 7th Day Sabbath is a memorial of the FINISHED work of creation and if it is a FINISHED work and a memorial of God’s creation that was given BEFORE the FALL of mankind before SIN had entered the world and before the plan of salvation was given to FALLEN man. If it was a part of a FINISHED work then it cannot be a Shadow of salvation because a Shadow was part of an UNFINISHED work given in the laws of Moses and was given AFTER the fall of mankind where the Sabbath was made before the fall.

Overall summary:
* Col 2:14-17 is referring to the ceremonial laws of Moses (v 14)

* The ceremonial laws of Moses included all the (1) food and drink offering, (2) feast days and festivals, (3) New Moons and (4) annual feast sabbaths (v 16)

* These were all Shadows pointing to Jesus and were completed at His death (v14; 17)

* The in text context of Col 2:16 is referring to the Old Testament scriptures word for word in relation to the laws of Moses (Col 2:16-17; Eze 45:17-21; 1Ch 23:31; 2Ch 2:4; Hos 2:11; Lev 23; Num 10; 28; 29)

* God’s Law (10 commandments) was the work of God himself and separate from every other law given to Israel. Its role was to point out sin

* The laws of Moses were to teach Israel the plan of salvation pointing to Jesus which was completed at the death of Jesus. It could not identify sin but its provided a cure for sin in animal sacrificed and burnt offerings and food and drink offerings which all pointed to Jesus (Col 2:14-17)

* Col 2:16 is referring to the annual New Moon ceremonial sabbaths connected to feast days and mean and drink offerings and not the 4th commandment of God’s Law.

* God’s 4th commandment is a reference to Gen 2:1-3 which is the 7th day of the creation week which was part of the FINISHED work creation given BEFORE the fall of mankind so cannot be a part of any Shadow plan of Salvation because its origin is in the FINISHED creation week BEFORE the fall.

Closing remarks:

Jesus says the Sabbath was made for man. He is the God of creation that made it for mankind. God commands us to keep the 7th Day Sabbath as a Holy day because he rested on this day. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath. If we love him we must follow Him (Mark 2:27-28; John 14:15)

Hope this helps the faithful Bereans.

God bless you all line upon line and precept upon precept....

Crosses were never used as a means of disposing of laws and there was never a need to legislate new laws to replace the old ones any time someone was crucified. Rather, what was written on crosses were the violations of the law or charges against the person being crucified in order to explain why they were being crucified (Matthew 27:37). This fits perfectly with our sin or violations of the Mosaic Law being nailed to his cross and with him dying to pay the penalty for our sins in our place, but does not fit at all with God doing away with His holy, righteous, and good Law (Romans 7:12).

Furthermore in Titus 2:11-14, it says that our salvation involves being trained by grace to do what is godly, righteous, and good, and to renounce doing what is ungodly and sinful, which is an accurate description of what God's Law was given to instruct how to do. In addition, Titus 2:14 does not say that Jesus gave himself to redeem us from the Law, but to redeem us from all Lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, and God's Law is again His instructions for how to do good works (2 Timothy 3:16-17, Acts 21:20).

In regard to Colossians 2:16, if you take that verse by itself, then it is ambiguous as to whether Paul was saying not to let anyone judge them for observing those days or for not observing them, but if we keep in mind the theme that we must obey God rather than man and examine the views of the people judging them, then it becomes clear:

Colossians 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.

Paul would not have described those teaching obedience to the holy, righteous, and good commands of God as taking people captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition. Jesus was sinless, so he at least taught obedience to the Mosaic Law by example, which means that it wouldn't make any sense to say that those who are teaching people to follow Christ's example are teaching what is not according to Christ. That would also pit the Son against the Father and Jesus said that he came only to do the Father's will (John 6:38) and that his teachings were not his own, but that of the Father (John 14:23-24). Paul went into more details about what these elemental spirits of the world are later in the chapter:

Colossians 2:20-23 If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations— 21 “Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch” 22 (referring to things that all perish as they are used)—according to human precepts and teachings? 23 These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh.

So the Colossians were keeping God's holy days in obedience to God's commands, they were being judged by those teaching human precepts and traditions, self-made religion, asceticism, and severity to the body, and Paul was writing to encourage them not to let any man keep them from obeying God. God's holy days are important foreshadows of what is to come, which are extremely rich with teachings about Messiah, God's plan of redemption, and are what we will be doing during Messiah's reign.

In 1 Peter 1:13-16, we are told to have a holy conduct for God is holy, which is a reference to Leviticus where God was given instructions for how to act in accordance with His holiness. It should be relatively straightforward that the way to have a holy conduct involves observing God's holy days. God's eternal holiness most assuredly was not done away with at the cross, so neither were His instructions for how to act in accordance with His holiness.

The Ten Commandments were given by themselves because they were what the Mosaic Covenant was originally intended to be. That covenant was based upon the condition that Israel would hear and obey God's voice (Exodus 19:5), but upon hearing God's voice, Israel got cold feet and wanted God to speak to Moses and for them to listen to Moses instead (Exodus 20:19). The Mosaic Covenant is often described as a marriage covenant between God and Israel, so this was exactly like a man proposing to his girlfriend, her agreeing, but on the wedding day deciding that she only wanted to interact with her husband though a mediator. This was less than ideal for the intimacy that God desires to have with His people, and quickly led to problems which would not have occurred if Israel had been listening to God's voice, but God nevertheless agreed to this different covenant, so it became necessary for Moses to write down all of God's other instructions for how to walk in His ways in lieu of the people being instructed by God's voice (Deuteronomy 5:22-33). All of God's laws reveal how to walk in God's ways in accordance with His character, not just ten of them, and it is a sin to disobey any of God's commands, not just ten of them. The purpose of pointing out our sin is to lead us to repent and turn back to obedience to God's Law.

 

[pescador]

In the gospels, so everyone I have chatted to accepts

So Christ hasn't issued any commands since his death? (Excepting Paul's experience on the road to Damascus and the things he heard directly from the Lord after that.) Our Lord has been silent for 2000+ years?

 

[stuart lawrence]

So Christ hasn't issued any commands since his death? (Excepting Paul's experience on the road to Damascus and the things he heard directly from the Lord after that.) Our Lord has been silent for 2000+ years?

When Jesus stated:
If you love me obey my commandments

In your view, what was he referring to?

 

[Soyeong]

Hi Stuart,

No one can keep the letter of the Law because all God’s Law does is to point out Sin (1 John 3:4). It is our mirror that shows us our condition and that all our own righteousness is as filthy rags (James 1:22-25; Isa 64:6). It is our teacher to bring us to Jesus so that we can have salvation by faith in God’s Word alone because there is nothing that we can do in our own strength to save ourselves. It is a gift of God lest any man shall boast (Rom 6:23). It is God’s Law that brings us to Jesus (Gal 3:24). He has not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance (Matt 9:13).

Hello,

In Deuteronomy 30:11-14, God said that what He commanded was not too difficult and in Romans 10:5-10, our faith also says that what God commanded was not too difficult, so anyone can do what the Law commands. God had many purpose for commanding the Law, one of which was to point out our sin, but as I just mentioned, the purpose of pointing out our sin it to lead us to repentance and to turn back to obedience to what the Law instructs. The Law primarily instructs us how to live according to God's character: His holiness, righteousness, goodness (Romans 7:12), justice, mercy, faithfulness (Matthew 23:23), and other fruits of the Spirit (Exodus 34:6-7). God does not command His people throughout the Bible to do what is righteous in accordance His righteousness and then disdain our obedience to His commands, but rather the righteous deeds of the saints are like fine white linen (Revelation 19:8). In Isaiah 64:6, it was not God speaking, but rather it was the people speaking about how they thought God was perceiving their actions. In James 1:22-25, he was encouraging us to be doers of God's Law, so I am not sure why you think that supports our righteousness being filthy rags. God's Law brings us to Christ because its goal is to teach us about Messiah and how to have a relationship with him based on faith (Romans 10:4).

LOVE

is the fulfilling of God’s Law In us who walk not after the flesh but after the spirit; Love is in-deed the fulfilling of God’s Law. This is the promise of the New Covenant. Spoken about by God in the Old Testament and repeated in the New.

Pleroo: to fulfil, i.e. to cause God's will (as made known in the law) to be obeyed as it should be, and God's promises (given through the prophets) to receive fulfilment

In Matthew 5:17, Jesus said he came to fulfill the Law and then proceeded to fulfill it six times by causing God's will (as made known in the Law) to be obeyed as it should be. In Galatians 5:14, it says that loving our neighbor fulfills the entire Law, so this is something everyone who has ever loved their neighbor has done and does not refer to something unique that Christ did. Love fulfills the entire Law because it is obeying it in the way that it should be obeyed. Likewise, in Galatians 6:2, bearing one another's burdens fulfills the Law of Christ because it is obeying it in the way that it should be obeyed. In Romans 15:18-19, Paul fulfilled the Gospel by causing the Gentiles to obey it in word and in deed as it should be obeyed.

Eze 36:26-27,

A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh and I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Jer 31:33-34,
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, says the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people and they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, says the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Heb 8:10-12,
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people and they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

So now under the new covenant when God changes our heart; we will love God and our neighbour.
if we love God we will not steal
if we love God we will not murder
if we love God we will not commit adultery
if we love God we will not lie
if we love God we will honour our parents
if we love God we will not covet
if we love God we will have no other gods except our God who loves us
if we love God we will not make unto any idols
if we love God we will not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain
if we love God we will Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy as he asked us to!

God’s Law has always been central to both the Old and the New Covenant. It is only by the operation of God as we have Faith in His Word that God changes our hearts so that we can love him and love our neighbour that we can walk in his ways. This is why Jesus says its only if you love me we can keep hid commandments (John 14:15)

None of the verses that you quoted specify that they are speaking only about the Ten Commandments, but rather God's Law refers to all of the laws that God has commanded. In John 14:23-24, Jesus said that his teachings were not His own, but that of the Father, and the Father again taught more than just the Ten Commandments.

Sunday Worship is a teaching and tradition of man breaking God’s Law which has no basis in God’s Word. The question remains who do we really follow God or Man? This is the great test that will come to each of us. God’s sheep hear his voice… He that has ears to hear let him hear (Matt 11:15) If we say that we know Jesus and are breaking His commandments God’s Word says we are lying and the truth is not in us (1 John 2:3-4)

Hope this is helpful

In Christ Always

I agree, but it is man's teaching that deprives you of the joy and the privilege of obeying all but ten of God's commands. Jesus was born under the Law and was sinless, so he walked in perfect obedience to the Mosaic Law, and we are told to walk in the same way as he walked (1 John 2:3-6) and to follow his example (1 Peter 2:21-22). We should let no man keep us from obeying all that God has commanded.

 

[stuart lawrence]

Hello,

In Deuteronomy 30:11-15, God said that what He commanded was not too difficult and in Romans 10:5-10, our faith also says that what God commanded was not too difficult, so anyone can do what the Law commands. God had many purpose for commanding the Law, one of which was to point out our sin, but as I just mentioned, the purpose of pointing out our sin it to lead us to repentance and to turn back to obedience to what the Law instructs. The Law primarily instructs us how to live according to God's character: His holiness, righteousness, goodness (Romans 7:12), justice, mercy, faithfulness (Matthew 23:23), and other fruits of the Spirit (Exodus 34:6-7). God does not command His people throughout the Bible to do what is righteous in accordance His righteousness and then disdain our obedience to His commands, but rather the righteous deeds of the saints are like fine white linen (Revelation 19:8). In Isaiah 64:6, it was not God speaking, but rather it was the people speaking about how they thought God was perceiving their actions. In James 1:22-25, he was encouraging us to be doers of God's Law, so I am not sure why you think that supports our righteousness being filthy rags. God's Law brings us to Christ because its goal is to teach us about Messiah and how to have a relationship with him based on faith (Romans 10:4).



Pleroo: to fulfil, i.e. to cause God's will (as made known in the law) to be obeyed as it should be, and God's promises (given through the prophets) to receive fulfilment

In Matthew 5:17, Jesus said he came to fulfill the Law and then proceeded to fulfill it six times by causing God's will (as made known in the Law) to be obeyed as it should be. In Galatians 5:14, it says that loving our neighbor fulfills the entire Law, so this is something everyone who has ever loved their neighbor has done and does not refer to something unique that Christ did. Love fulfills the entire Law because it is obeying it in the way that it should be obeyed. Likewise, in Galatians 6:2, bearing one another's burdens fulfills the Law of Christ because it is obeying it in the way that it should be obeyed. In Romans 15:18-19, Paul fulfilled the Gospel by causing the Gentiles to obey it in word and in deed as it should be obeyed.



None of the verses that you quoted specify that they are speaking only about the Ten Commandments, but rather God's Law refers to all of the laws that God has commanded. In John 14:23-24, Jesus said that his teachings were not His own, but that of the Father, and the Father again taught more than just the Ten Commandments.



I agree, but it is man's teaching that deprives you of the joy and the privilege of obeying all but ten of God's commands. Jesus was born under the Law and was sinless, so he walked in perfect obedience to the Mosaic Law, and we are told to walk in the same way as he walked (1 John 2:3-6) and to follow his example (1 Peter 2:21-22). We should let no man keep us from obeying all that God has commanded.

If it is not too difficult to obey what the law commands, if anyone can obey the law, why did Paul term the TC the letter that kills, the ministry of death and condemnation?

 

[Soyeong]

Let's get down to the nuts and bolts of this as it were.
You accept under the new covenant the law God desires you to keep is written in your mind and placed on your heart:

Through the law we become conscious of sin rom3:20

Therefore, if anyone transgresses the law in their heart, they must have heartfelt conviction they sin by doing so.
Therefore, if anyone has no heartfelt conviction they commit sin by failing to observe a specific seventh day sabbath, that only leaves two possibilities. Either God did not write that particular law as written in their mind and placed it on their heart, or, they cannot be a Christian/ saved.
Can you believe it. Some Christians who believe the Christian must observe a specific seventh day sabbath accept as Christians people who have no heartfelt conviction they sin by failing to observe it. Clearly these people have no true understanding of the core foundation on which the NC stands

When God has revealed something to be sin and someone feels no heartfelt conviction that they sin by doing so, then it become decision of whether they are going to be a follower of God or of their heart. Which do they trust more? The most obvious possibility for the law not being written on their heart is that their heart has become hardened and they need to repent.

 

[stuart lawrence]

When God has revealed something to be sin and someone feels no heartfelt conviction that they sin by doing so, then it become decision of whether they are going to be a follower of God or of their heart. Which do they trust more? The most obvious possibility for the law not being written on their heart is that their heart has become hardened and they need to repent.

The moment you accept Christ as your saviour, the law God desires you to follow is written in your mind and placed on your heart. That is one of the two main clauses of the NC. No time for your heart to have become hardened!
Through the law we become conscious of sin rom3:20

 

[BobRyan]

Thankfully, under the new covenant the law God desires us to follow is written in our minds and placed on our hearts.

The LAW that Jeremiah knew about - in Jeremiah 31:31-33 where we find the New Covenant - includes "do not take God's name in vain" ... in fact it includes all the TEN Commandments.

 

[BobRyan]

The moment you accept Christ as your saviour, the law God desires you to follow is written in your mind and placed on your heart.

The Law that Jeremiah knew about in Jeremiah 31:31-33 as even the pro-sunday scholars admit... includes God's Ten Commandments.

The Baptist Confession of Faith,
the Westminster Confession of Faith ,
D.L. Moody,
R.C Sproul,
Matthew Henry,
Thomas Watson
Eastern Orthodox Catechism
The Catholic Catechism.