Humans did NOT evolve from Apes...

[miknik5]

Did he actually tell you about human origins though, or to take a particular interpretation of Genesis?



No, it wasn't that.

It was that
You wanted me to "go out" and broaden my understanding
Because that is what you have done
You would prefer for me not to be so "childish" and increae my "knowledge"?

To repeat the words of Paul:

It's dung compared to the knowledge of knowing my LORD

 

[Subduction Zone]

Help!

If only you were sincere.

 

[miknik5]

If only you were sincere.

If only you were

 

[Jimmy D]

It's GOD sir

Did I need to have it written down to understand that HE is THE CREATOR of all lower temporal things?

Not only that, hidden in the very account of creation is CHRIST

And I don't mean the usual verse we all point to
"Let us make man in our image"


I mean in the covering of skins to cover Adam and Eve's...nakedness (after they had sinned)

That "theme" runs throughout the whole of THE WORD of GOD

From Genesis to Revelation

So that's a no then?

 

[Subduction Zone]

It's GOD sir

Did I need to have it written down to understand that HE is THE CREATOR of all lower temporal things?

If he "THE CREATOR of all lower temporal things" then he is the creator of the clear and abundant evidence that tells that we are descended from apes.

Christians that accept the theory of evolution do so partially because they do not believe in a lying God.

Not only that, hidden in the very account of creation is CHRIST

And I don't mean the usual verse we all point to
"Let us make man in our image"


I mean in the covering of skins to cover Adam and Eve's...nakedness (after they had sinned)

That "theme" runs throughout the whole of THE WORD of GOD

From Genesis to Revelation

Reinterpretation after the fact does not mean "hidden". One thing wrong that some Christians do with the Bible is to try to insert Jesus where there is no reason to. That is one of the cause of so many different sects of Christianity. They will disagree with each other on these improper insertions.

 

[Subduction Zone]

If only you were

Please, you know that I am. You are willing to excuse those that lie for Jesus, even though the Bible points out that that is a sin.

 

[miknik5]

If he "THE CREATOR of all lower temporal things" then he is the creator of the clear and abundant evidence that tells that we are descended from apes.

Christians that accept the theory of evolution do so partially because they do not believe in a lying God.


Reinterpretation after the fact does not mean "hidden". One thing wrong that some Christians do with the Bible is to try to insert Jesus where there is no reason to. That is one of the cause of so many different sects of Christianity. They will disagree with each other on these improper insertions.

There is EVERY REASON to "insert" JESUS everywhere HE belongs

That's what the men of Babylon tried NOT to do

And by removing THE CREATOR they thought by their own works they could accomplish anything they set out to try to do by their own hands, their own strength, their own "wisdom"

It didn't work

 

[miknik5]

Please, you know that I am. You are willing to excuse those that lie for Jesus, even though the Bible points out that that is a sin.

No I don't
You resort to offering your personal input into the character and integrity of others

That's not honest discussion
That makes one mad and not interested in continuing the discussion

 

[miknik5]

you want honesty?

You'll get it from me

I don't play games and I don't resort to any of the tactics which jimmy D should have been embarrassed to have included as the normal everyday pattern of a normal everyday "debate"

 

[Subduction Zone]

There is EVERY REASON to "insert" JESUS everywhere HE belongs

Fine, but no reason to insert him where he does not belong. Since you want to insert him the burden of proof is once again upon you.

That's what the men of Babylon tried NOT to do

Simply wrong. They were long before Jesus's time. You can't "NOT" insert that which does not exist.

And by removing THE CREATOR they thought by their own works they could accomplish anything they set out to try to do by their own hands, their own strength, their own "wisdom"

It didn't work

No, they simply had different religious beliefs than the ancient Hebrews did. They had their own gods. And the Hebrews copied many of their own stories from them. The Noah's Ark story is a prime example.

 

[Subduction Zone]

you want honesty?

You'll get it from me

I don't play games and I don't resort to any of the tactics which jimmy D should have been embarrassed to have included as the normal everyday pattern of a normal everyday "debate"

Oh please, you play plenty of your own games. I do remember a saying about a mote and a beam . . . now how does that go?

 

[miknik5]

Fine, but no reason to insert him where he does not belong. Since you want to insert him the burden of proof is once again upon you.



Simply wrong. They were long before Jesus's time. You can't "NOT" insert that which does not exist.



No, they simply had different religious beliefs than the ancient Hebrews did. They had their own gods. And the Hebrews copied many of their own stories from them. The Noah's Ark story is a prime example.

You have no idea what you are saying in your first block of this post

And because of it, I haven't read the remainder of your post

 

[Subduction Zone]

No I don't
You resort to offering your personal input into the character and integrity of others

That's not honest discussion
That makes one mad and not interested in continuing the discussion

Then you should feel the same outrage over those that lie for Jesus as I do.

And if you did not constantly play your own game and debated honestly and properly there would be no need of such behavior on my part.

 

[miknik5]

Oh please, you play plenty of your own games. I do remember a saying about a mote and a beam . . . now how does that go?

Show me where you have misinterpreted anything I have said to be anything but TRUTH

Anything at all
In fact, let any poster be welcome to doing that

 

[miknik5]

Then you should feel the same outrage over those that lie for Jesus as I do.

And if you did not constantly play your own game and debated honestly and properly there would be no need of such behavior on my part.

You do lie for Jesus and you shouldn't
You shouldn't speak against what and who you dont know

 

[miknik5]

Then you should feel the same outrage over those that lie for Jesus as I do.

And if you did not constantly play your own game and debated honestly and properly there would be no need of such behavior on my part.

Your responsible for your own behavior

Now please give me the evidence that I resort to the same measures as you do

 

[Subduction Zone]

You have no idea what you are saying in your first block of this post

And because of it, I haven't read the remainder of your post

Wrong again, and this is an example of dishonesty and game playing by you.

You simply cannot support that false claim of yours.

When you make a positive claim, such as you did about Jesus, the burden of proof is upon you. You know that you can't support that claim so you ran away from it.

 

[miknik5]

And any time I speak with you this is all that happens

The debate switches to personal insults from you suggesting that the other is somehow like you and plays these games that you have become accustomed to

 

[Subduction Zone]

You do lie for Jesus and you shouldn't
You shouldn't speak against what and who you dont know

You do realize that does not make any sense at all, don't you? And I don't lie. I don't need to lie since the evidence is on my side. You are too ready to excuse those that do lie, if they agree with you.

 

[miknik5]

Now stop offering anymore than what has been given by a poster

You offer your personal assumptions:

It seems to me this is what you believe but no in fact you don't say it seems you just blatantly say in a post, you believe...you do this
When the poster never said that or in fact believes the opposite of what you say

And it is more work having to go back and restate fully what was fully said so that other people will not believe your slander

It's work
And it's both tiring and annoying