Humans did NOT evolve from Apes...

[Subduction Zone]

And any time I speak with you this is all that happens

The debate switches to personal insults from you suggesting that the other is somehow like you and plays these games that you have become accustomed to

There were no personal insults. When you make a claim and run away from it or refuse to support it pointing that out is not a 'personal insult'.

And to make it worse you just made a personal insult about me. And a false one at that.

Debate honestly and properly and there will be no perceived "insults".

 

[Subduction Zone]

Now stop offering anymore than what has been given by a poster

You offer your personal assumptions:

It seems to me this is what you believe but no in fact you don't say it seems you just blatantly say in a post, you believe...you do this

And it is more work having to go back and restate fully what was fully said so that other people will not believe your slander

It's work
And it's both tiring and annoying

Then debate properly and honestly. There was no 'slander' from me.

And when a person makes a post analyzing it is not "offering anymore than what has been given by a poster". It is hypocritical of a person to complain when their own posts show them to be wrong.

 

[miknik5]

Then debate properly and honestly. There was no 'slander' from me.

And when a person makes a post analyzing it is not "offering anymore than what has been given by a poster". It is hypocritical of a person to complain when their own posts show them to be wrong.

In relation to THE TRUTH of GOD and HIS SOVEREIGNTY over the created things and the workings of men, Show me where I was wrong

 

[Subduction Zone]

Show me where I was wrong

I have been and will continue to do so.

If you want a particular you need to quote a post where I point out a specific error of yours, not a meta-post.

 

[Jimmy D]

I don't play games and I don't resort to any of the tactics which jimmy D should have been embarrassed to have included as the normal everyday pattern of a normal everyday "debate"

That's not very nice is it? It was a simple question which you didn't answer, I had a point to make but no problem if it's a touchy subject.

In attempt to get back on topic, I'd like to ask as to where humans believe humans come from if you don't accept evolution as the answer?

 

[miknik5]

I have been and will continue to do so.

If you want a particular you need to quote a post where I point out a specific error of yours, not a meta-post.

You want me to search out a post which you have suggested and implied that you have corrected me on?

And you can't even remember the post yourself?



Here is a TRUTH


The scales are tipped

I would much rather have the wisdom and understanding and knowledge of THE ETERNAL GOD than all the temporal subject to error and change "wisdom" and "understanding" and "knowledge" of the workings of a world which is also subject to change and decay and under HIS SOVEREIGN CONTROL

 

[miknik5]

I would like for you, in your time, to review Nebuchadnezzer's dream of the "tree" and see what understanding you gain from it

I am not directing you as if I have any rights to demand or order you to do so but I am mentioning this dream that maybe you'll listen

 

[miknik5]

That's not very nice is it? It was a simple question which you didn't answer, I had a point to make but no problem if it's a touchy subject.

In attempt to get back on topic, I'd like to ask as to where humans believe humans come from if you don't accept evolution as the answer?

GOD

Do you understand that by CHRIST coming into the world, judgement has also come?

HE came not to bring peace but division

There's a dividing line

I would much rather be on the side where HE is, serving the FATHER of MY SALVATION and trusting and believing in HIS PROMISES

 

[Subduction Zone]

You want me to search out a post which you have suggested and implied that you have corrected me on?

And you can't even remember the post yourself?

I am not doing your homework for you. You made a generic complain and I gave you a correction. That was all that was needed.

Here is a TRUTH


The scales are tipped

I would much rather have the wisdom and understanding and knowledge of THE ETERNAL GOD than all the temporal subject to error and change "wisdom" and "understanding" and "knowledge" of the workings of a world which is also subject to change and decay and under HIS SOVEREIGN CONTROL

But you obviously don't have "knowledge of THE ETERNAL GOD".

Once again knowledge is demonstrable and you cannot demonstrate the knowledge that you claim. All you have is belief. Belief is not knowledge. I understand why there was no flood and can demonstrate that to a flood believer. So far you can't demonstrate your supposed "knowledge".

 

[miknik5]

I am not doing your homework for you. You made a generic complain and I gave you a correction. That was all that was needed.



But you obviously don't have "knowledge of THE ETERNAL GOD".

Once again knowledge is demonstrable and you cannot demonstrate the knowledge that you claim. All you have is belief. Belief is not knowledge. I understand why there was no flood and can demonstrate that to a flood believer. So far you can't demonstrate your supposed "knowledge".

Goodbye, subduction zone

 

[Subduction Zone]

Goodbye, subduction zone

Running away when one can't support one's claims is only a tacit admission that one is wrong.

 

[miknik5]

Running away when one can't support one's claims is only a tacit admission that one is wrong.

Goodbye
Subduction Zone

Do you really comprehend what I am saying to YOU?

YOU, Subduction Zone

 

[Subduction Zone]

Goodbye
Subduction Zone

Do you really comprehend what I am saying to YOU?

YOU, Subduction Zone

Yes, you are running away.

 

[miknik5]

Yes, you are running away.

From YOU
I will no longer enter into any sort of "debate"..."discussion"..
"conversation" with you

And there you go projecting your own assumptions of what another is saying

YOU need to work on having integrity and speaking only what is true and truth of what you know

If you don't know what you claim and say of another, you shouldn't say anything

It's an opinion
And it remains an opinion not based on truth

 

[Aman777]

If GOD expected Adam to be perfect bearing fruit with seed in it according to his kind, HE would have made him exactly as HE had made the other lower created things

But HE didn't

GOD didnt make a stand alone counterpart and mate separate from Adam like HE did for all the other lower created things

But instead GOD took out from the one flesh of the man Adam, a woman..,his counterpart and mate

Man should have been "better equipped" to bear fruit with seed in it according to his likeness since he came from the first man Adam

But he isn't perfect
And the likeness of flesh dies not dictate the inner likeness of each man to be the same in their temperament...

Adam brought forth his female counterpart from his own flesh

And yet her inner spirit was different from her own fleshly "father" who bore her

So tell me how Adam who couldn't even ensure the woman brought forth of his flesh could be in his likeness, how he could ensure that their offspring from their union would be in the likeness of their earthly father

Let alone their heavenly one

Adam wasn't stupid. He had been with Jesus for Billions of years and I'm sure that Jesus told him lots of things. That is WHY I can hardly wait to speak with our first father whose enormous sin was desiring Eve. God Bless you

 

[miknik5]

Adam wasn't stupid. He had been with Jesus for Billions of years and I'm sure that Jesus told him lots of things. That is WHY I can hardly wait to speak with our first father whose enormous sin was desiring Eve. God Bless you

LOL...I've heard that theory before

And by the way, why would you want to speak with Adam???

do you think someone in the presence of GOD is waiting to speak to you?

 

[Subduction Zone]

From YOU
I will no longer enter into any sort of "debate"..."discussion"..
"conversation" with you

I know, as I said, running away.

And there you go projecting your own assumptions of what another is saying

Not "projecting". You did not use that term correctly. I interpreted what you said, And I did so quite accurately.

YOU need to work on having integrity and speaking only what is true and truth of what you know

Please, now you are projecting your flaws upon others.

Let me explain. Integrity in a debate begins with supporting ones claims. You have not done that. I explained to you how your claim that God supposedly spoke to you is meaningless in a debate. People from all religions make that claim and their "God" all spoke to them differently. The logical conclusion is that there was no god speaking to any of them. Especially if they cannot support their claims.

If you don't know what you claim and say of another, you shouldn't say anything

It's an opinion
And it remains an opinion not based on truth

I have more than mere opinion. I have logic, reason, and evidence.

Once again, you are the one that keeps making this about you because whenever others require you to support your claims you can only repeat the claim that God spoke to you. With countless people claiming that with "God" continually telling them all different things no one takes such claims very seriously. They are not evidence. You need something much much stronger than that.

 

[miknik5]

do you think someone in the presence of GOD is waiting to speak to you?
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EDIT:

Moved to original post

Dont want to be accused by Aman again as "speaking in the wind" and causing confusion by not posting and referring to the poster on my response)

 

[Aman777]

Except...you aren't. The scientists who study and develop the medicines you rely on, wouldn't be able to do the work they do without a competent understanding of the theory of evolution.

Why is the term decent with modification within His and Their kinds so objectionable to you? Is it because it acknowledges the Creator? Of course it is. So use the evil word "evolution" all you want and ignore God's Truth, but remember that Judgment day is later Today. One hundred and fifty two thousand Humans leave planet Earth every 24 hours and none of them knew this the last time they were awake. Today is the last Day for everyone since no one is guaranteed tomorrow on this lost and dying Earth. What will you say when you must account for your deeds done while in the flesh? Only those without sin, will escape this world of death. God Bless you

 

[TBDude65]

Why is the term decent with modification within His and Their kinds so objectionable to you? Is it because it acknowledges the Creator? Of course it is. So use the evil word "evolution" all you want and ignore God's Truth, but remember that Judgment day is later Today. One hundred and fifty two thousand Humans leave planet Earth every 24 hours and none of them knew this the last time they were awake. Today is the last Day for everyone since no one is guaranteed tomorrow on this lost and dying Earth. What will you say when you must account for your deeds done while in the flesh? Only those without sin, will escape this world of death. God Bless you

Absence of evidence of a creator is why I object to it. Absence of evidence of sentient/conscious guidance to evolution is another reason I object to it. It is really that simple.