Humans did NOT evolve from Apes...

[miknik5]

It was believed that the Messiah would usher in a new age,fight off Israel's enemies establish a material kingdom and sit on David's throne. They were confused miss led by claims in the Bible. Jesus wasn't the Jewish Messiah is they conceived of him to be ,he left and went back home. He didn't destroy anything is John thought he would because John was wrong John was just human he had his own beliefs.

John wasn't wrong
How do you think he understood the BRIDE to be?

 

[miknik5]

What do you think CHRIST meant when HE said my kingdom is not of this world?

Or tear down this temple and I will build it up in three days?

What do you think is happening?

 

[miknik5]

The BRIDEGROOM came
The HUSBAND of THE COVENANT
And the HOUSE is being built up
And after all has been accomplished, THE SON (BRIDEGROOM) will present back to HIS FATHER... HIS BRIDE..HIS CHURCH

Which is HIS BODY

 

[miknik5]

Hitchslap?

If men and women were involved in bestiality, could there have existed in the genepools in both man and apes similar DNA material

 

[TBDude65]

Humans are apes (from here:Classification of Living Things: Linnaean Classification of Humans):
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Subphylum: Vertebrata
Class: Mammalia
Subclass: Theria
Infraclass: Eutheria
Order: Primates
Suborder: Anthropoidea
Superfamily: Hominoidea
Family: Hominidae
Genus: Homo
Species: sapiens

I thought I would also list some other common species you know in each group for reference of the range of diversity in each category (I'll ignore the subcategories like "Subclass" and "Infraclass")

Kingdom Animalia: Any multicellular organism that isn't a plant that has specialized cells. This includes Sponges, Molluscs, Vertebrates, Insects, etc
Phylum Chordata: Anything with a centralized nervous system that runs along the axis of the body from Limpets and sea squirts, to dinosaurs, and dogs (the notochord may be lost during ontogeny, like for the sea squirts)
Subphylum Vertebrata: Organisms with a central nervous system and a rigid spine of some sort. Includes sharks and rays, as well as elephants, turtles, frogs, etc
Class Mammalia: Animals that have hair and possess mammary glands (there are also defining qualities associated with skull morphology). Platypus, Kangaroos, Dogs, Cats, Lions, Tigers, Bears
Order Primates: Possess hands, hand-like feet, and eyes that sit on the front of the skull and face forward (allowing for stereoscopic vision). Lemurs, Monkeys, Gorillas
Family Hominidae: These are the great apes and include us as well as Gorillas, Orangutans, and Chimpanzees. Large, tail-less omnivores. In addition to this there would also be morphological traits associated with skull and jaw morphology
Genus Homo: This is the genus that defines Humans. Any species in this genus is considered human. So modern (extant) humans are here, as well as extinct species (and/or sub-species) like Neanderthals and Homo habilis

 

[Aman777]

Because you missed the order of creation and how after GOD placed one firmament to separate the waters above from the waters below. HE further gathered the waters so that the waters were contained in areas and dry land began to emerge with the contained gathered waters making up the various bodies of waters throughout the world : oceans, and lakes, and rivers

You have confused the beginning of Adam's Heaven with the present Heaven/Universe. Ancient superstitious theology teaches that the firmament was simply suspended in the air but that is ridiculous since Gravity worked long ago like it does now. Here's an example:

Take a tennis ball, which is a hollow firmament and put it in the midst of water with water above and below it. That's a better understanding than believing that the solid firmament was suspended in the sky. Amen?

 

[miknik5]

Humans are apes (from here:Classification of Living Things: Linnaean Classification of Humans):
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Subphylum: Vertebrata
Class: Mammalia
Subclass: Theria
Infraclass: Eutheria
Order: Primates
Suborder: Anthropoidea
Superfamily: Hominoidea
Family: Hominidae
Genus: Homo
Species: sapiens

I thought I would also list some other common species you know in each group for reference of the range of diversity in each category (I'll ignore the subcategories like "Subclass" and "Infraclass")

Kingdom Animalia: Any multicellular organism that isn't a plant that has specialized cells. This includes Sponges, Molluscs, Vertebrates, Insects, etc
Phylum Chordata: Anything with a centralized nervous system that runs along the axis of the body from Limpets and sea squirts, to dinosaurs, and dogs (the notochord may be lost during ontogeny, like for the sea squirts)
Subphylum Vertebrata: Organisms with a central nervous system and a rigid spine of some sort. Includes sharks and rays, as well as elephants, turtles, frogs, etc
Class Mammalia: Animals that have hair and possess mammary glands (there are also defining qualities associated with skull morphology). Platypus, Kangaroos, Dogs, Cats, Lions, Tigers, Bears
Order Primates: Possess hands, hand-like feet, and eyes that sit on the front of the skull and face forward (allowing for stereoscopic vision). Lemurs, Monkeys, Gorillas
Family Hominidae: These are the great apes and include us as well as Gorillas, Orangutans, and Chimpanzees. Large, tail-less omnivores. In addition to this there would also be morphological traits associated with skull and jaw morphology
Genus Homo: This is the genus that defines Humans. Any species in this genus is considered human. So modern (extant) humans are here, as well as extinct species (and/or sub-species) like Neanderthals and Homo habilis

Because?
What is the main reason that identifies a common species?

 

[miknik5]

Is it because they can produce live young?

 

[TBDude65]

Because?
What is the main reason why one is grouped as a common species?

Because what?

There is no "main" reason why organisms are categorized into specific groups. Each Linnaean category (Phylum, Class, Order, etc) and each subdivision of each category (Animalia, Chordata, Homo, etc) have multiple traits and characters that define them.

 

[miknik5]

Gravity!
Gravity worked long ago?

How did gravity slip through the CREATORS HANDS?

And is gravity eternal?
( in Response to post 287)

 

[TBDude65]

Is it because they can produce live young?

The ability for two individuals to reproduce and produce a viable (capable of reproduction) offspring is one definition of "species." Meaning this is one of many species concepts and is known as the Biological Species concept. Others commonly used include the Phylogenetic Species concept (that looks at multiple shared traits among individuals as well as their genetic make-up) and the Morphological Species concept (this is based on shared morphological traits and is the primary definition used in paleontology)

 

[miknik5]

Because what?

There is no "main" reason why organisms are categorized into specific groups. Each Linnaean category (Phylum, Class, Order, etc) and each subdivision of each category (Animalia, Chordata, Homo, etc) have multiple traits and characters that define them.

Oh!
Ahhh shucks!

I thought it was because they can produce live young

 

[Aman777]

Scoffers refers to those who do not believe CHRIST will come again

Not those who do not believe the NEW JERUSAJEM will be coming down from Heaven like a bride adorned for her husband

Thanks for posting the verses.

2 Peter 3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

Scoffers of the last days mock and ridicule Scripture by asking Where's Jesus. They also force teach their False belief that everything continues the same since the beginning of the creation.

5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

The firmament was under water but the Earth, inside the firmament was in the water but out of the water. Remember the tennis ball?

6Whereby the world that THEN WAS, being overflowed with water, perished: (Greek-destroyed totally)

Adam's world (Greek-Kosmos), you know, the world that THEN WAS, indicating that it is NO more, because it was totally destroyed in the flood.

7But the heavens and the earth, WHICH ARE NOW, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

With your understanding, can you see the difference between Adam's world/firmament, you know the world that then was, and the heavens and Earth which are NOW? Of course you can but it doesn't fit with your religious beliefs. Does it? It's what is actually written. God Bless you

 

[miknik5]

The ability for two individuals to reproduce and produce a viable (capable of reproduction) offspring is one definition of "species." Meaning this is one of many species concepts and is known as the Biological Species concept. Others commonly used include the Phylogenetic Species concept (that looks at multiple shared traits among individuals as well as their genetic make-up) and the Morphological Species concept (this is based on shared morphological traits and is the primary definition used in paleontology)

Yes thank you

 

[TBDude65]

Oh!
Ahhh shucks!

I thought it was because they can produce live young

No, you are confusing the definition of a specific species (what defines an individual as belonging to Homo sapien for example isn't based on reproduction) with the basic way some biologists attempt to look at the closeness of the relationship between two individuals that are hypothesized to be closely related to one another.

 

[miknik5]

Sarcasm? You should know the WORD of GOD

And not play with HIS WORD

Thanks for posting the verses.

2 Peter 3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

Scoffers of the last days mock and ridicule Scripture by asking Where's Jesus. They also force teach their False belief that everything continues the same since the beginning of the creation.

5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

The firmament was under water but the Earth, inside the firmament was in the water but out of the water. Remember the tennis ball?

6Whereby the world that THEN WAS, being overflowed with water, perished: (Greek-destroyed totally)

Adam's world (Greek-Kosmos), you know, the world that THEN WAS, indicating that it is NO more, because it was totally destroyed in the flood.

7But the heavens and the earth, WHICH ARE NOW, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

With your understanding, can you see the difference between Adam's world/firmament, you know the world that then was, and the heavens and Earth which are NOW? Of course you can but it doesn't fit with your religious beliefs. Does it? It's what is actually written. God Bless you

 

[miknik5]

No, you are confusing the definition of a specific species (what defines an individual as belonging to Homo sapien for example isn't based on reproduction) with the basic way some biologists attempt to look at the closeness of the relationship between two individuals that are hypothesized to be closely related to one another.

How can similar genes in the gene pool of two separate creatures be found carrying the same traits and expressions

Even if they are not physically expressed?

Please explain one way that could happen?

 

[Aman777]

Adam had no sun and stars eh? Add that to the pile I guess.

Show us Scripturally that Adam's world had a Sun, Moon or Stars. You cannot. All you can do is show us the lighting of the first Stars on the 4th Day Gen 1:16 some one billion years AFTER the big bang, which happened late on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4

Jesus/Lamb is the Light of the 3rd Heaven Rev 21:23 which is the Multiverse which has water, into which Adam's firmament was placed, Gen 1:6-8 AND it also contains a world in the ground of the Multiverse, where it is eternally dark, and is filled with death. In the end, that terrible world/cosmos will be Burned. ll Peter 3:10 This same terrible world crucified God Himself, and just like Adam's world was, the present world will be totally destroyed and buried in the ground of the Multiverse. God Bless you

 

[Jimmy D]

How can similar genes in the gene pool of two separate creatures be found carrying the same traits and expressions

Even if they are not physically expressed?

Please explain one way that could happen?

It's almost as if they could be related in some way?

 

[TBDude65]

How can similar genes in the gene pool of two separate creatures be found carrying the same traits and expressions

Even if they are not physically expressed?

Please explain one way that could happen?

Organisms share genes because of common ancestry. That is the way you get your genetic make-up too (the traits you possess come from your mother, father, and grandparents).

And genes don't have to be physically expressed. You seem to be confusing genotypes with phenotypes. Selection pressures for genotypes are not the same as those for phenotypes, but genotypes are inadvertently selected for when phenotypes are too.

But I don't understand what this digression has to do with anything else said thus far.