How was Jesus Christ justified?

[Hank77]

Paul referred to himself as blameless in that context but Paul didn't consider himself self-justified either.

He was blameless in Christ.

 

[Hank77]

I suppose you don't think that lust in the heart is a violation of the Law of Moses?

Yes it is.

 

[redleghunter]

Was this obedience to the Law of Moses, or was it obedience to the Father in all things, even to lay down His innocent life for the guilty?

Indeed. I think I had a post saying very much the same thing.

We have to thank @Tree of Life for this thread as it points out the connection between the Gospel of the Kingdom and the Gospel of Christ crucified, died, and Risen---atonement.

 

[Tree of Life]

Yes it is.

So you think that Zechariah and Elizabeth were perfect in behavior, motivation, thought, and heart?

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

He was blameless in Christ.

I agree. I'm not used to the new rating system so hit prayer instead of agreement oops.

 

[disciple1]

If Jesus didn't need to be justified then why was he justified? (1 Timothy 3:16)

I don't see that in the niv, but he didn't need to be justified, like I said he was God, what translation are you using.

 

[Tree of Life]

I don't see that in the niv, but he didn't need to be justified, like I said he was God, what translation are you using.

You can just look at the greek. The word is dikaioō.

 

[Hank77]

Folks might be avoiding "the Law" as most equate this to Mosaic Law. This is just one (a big one) element to obedience.

I think the more accurate answer is perfect obedience to the will of the Father.

@Tree of Life equated it to the Torah, Law of Moses, in one of his first posts.

I agree the answer is perfect obedience to the will of the Father.

 

[redleghunter]

Maybe. But only so long as this is not seen as opposed to God's Law. "The will of the Father" might be broader for Jesus than the Law of God, but it doesn't by any means exclude God's Law.

Of course not. As the Law reveals God's Holiness.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

@Tree of Life equated it to the Torah, Law of Moses, in one of his first posts.

I agree the answer is perfect obedience to the will of the Father.

Hence the resurrection

 

[Hank77]

I don't see that in the niv, but he didn't need to be justified, like I said he was God, what translation are you using.

I think the NIV may say 'vindicated' which means the same thing as declared righteous, or justified.

 

[Hank77]

So you think that Zechariah and Elizabeth were perfect in behavior, motivation, thought, and heart?

I just know what the scripture says, God found them blameless according to the Law of Moses.
I cannot speculate beyond what God says about them.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

I'm just trying to highlight the significance of the oft neglected fact that Jesus lived a life of obedience to God's Law as a human being in our place.

And, He did that for us. This is the other half of the gospel that 90% of Christians do not know, or have never considered.

All Christians know that Christ died for their sins. Very few Christians understand that He also lived a perfect life on their behalf. He, as a man, lived under the law, and He did this for us. Our righteousness under the law is found in Him.

 

[Tree of Life]

I just know what the scripture says, God found them blameless according to the Law of Moses.
I cannot speculate beyond what God says about them.

I'm not asking you to speculate. I'm asking you to tell me what "blameless" means. Do you think it means "sinless"?

 

[-V-]

I'm just trying to highlight the significance of the oft neglected fact that Jesus lived a life of obedience to God's Law as a human being in our place.

... which says nothing about Jesus becoming justified.

You defined "justification" as:

Technically speaking, "justification" is simply the act of declaring someone to be righteous.

If that is correct, Jesus was justified LONG before His ministry on earth.

The Old Testament is filled with references to God being righteous as well as God declaring Himself to be righteous. If Jesus is God, then He was already declared righteous (justified) centuries before His incarnation. Did Jesus stop being God at some point? Did He lose His righteousness at some point and have to gain it back?

 

[jimmyjimmy]

You ask good questions.

Pauls writings and teachings dominate the New Trstament because Paul dominated the post-cross Christian movement. Because of Pauls popularity, the Gentile world heard about Jesus by way of Paul. People hung on Pauls every word! Even Pauls letters of corospondance to the churches became "scripture". Some of the other original apostles parted ways and went on into the world carrying the gospel as they understood it. Paul was sincere! All in! He meant well! But we have to realize that Paul was not Christ! Christianity is largely a gospel about Jesus according to Pauls own conclusions. We've largely lost the original gospel of Jesus' inspiring and triumphant life as a human obedient to Gods will.

How could God have let the Church be so blinded by Paul's errant teachings for the past 2,000 years?!

 

[JESUS=G.O.A.T]

Who raised Jesus from the dead?

He did he's omnipresent he can be in heaven and on earth. God in flesh and God in heaven

 

[Tree of Life]

... which says nothing about Jesus becoming justified.

Only that it says EVERYTHING about Jesus becoming justified!

You defined "justification" as:

If that is correct, Jesus was justified LONG before His ministry on earth.

Jesus has always been righteous. But the significant thing for us and our salvation is that he was justified as a man. This required him to live a perfectly sinless life, start to finish, as a man. He did exactly this in the timeframe of roughly 5BC-28AD.

The Old Testament is filled with references to God being righteous as well as God declaring Himself to be righteous. If Jesus is God, then He was already declared righteous (justified) centuries before His incarnation. Did Jesus stop being God at some point? Did He lose His righteousness at some point and have to gain it back?

Jesus was not righteous as a man until he became a man and lived his earthly life. His righteousness as a divine being only affects our salvation not at all. His righteousness as a man changes everything.

 

[Tree of Life]

He did he's omnipresent he can be in heaven and on earth.

Then why does the Bible say that God raised Jesus from the dead in Acts 2:24, Acts 10:40, and Acts 13:30?

 

[bangmegafan]

We are justified by faith in Christ. But how was Jesus Christ justified?

What is the reason for justification of Jesus who himself is God.. Justification is relative term and first person can justify second person and second person can justify first person. But one person cannot justify himself.. And if one is God, He cant justify Himself.. Hence there is no question of justification

From John 1:1

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made through him; and without him was not anything made that hath been made. 4In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shineth in the darkness; and the darkness apprehended it not.