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The Double Message of Eternal Security.
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George Sodini, mass murderer and professed Christian Eternal Securist wrote; “Maybe soon, I will see God and Jesus. At least that is what I was told. Eternal life does NOT depend on works. If it did, we will all be in hell. Christ paid for EVERY sin, so how can I or you be judged BY GOD for a sin when the penalty was ALREADY paid. People judge but that does not matter. I was reading the Bible and The Integrity of God beginning yesterday, because soon I will see them.”
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I am talking about this particular verse. Explain it to me in light of your recent statement on fear and love.
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Every time you are shown very plain scripture you refuse to.accept what the Bible plainly states. You quote another verse, misapply it or quote out of context in order to try and prove what has been quoted to you is not true
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Don't do it for me. Do it for the person who happens across this website reading; Or do you simply do not know how to explain it?
For me, it is a joy to explain God's Word.
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stuart lawrence
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For you it is a joy to try and convince others they must earn their way to heaven by being good enough.
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God forbid any of us sin. As for this man, God knows his heart. I have no idea if he truly believed. I trust God and know he is just. From what I have read about him, it doesn't sound like he believed. He is in the Lord's hands.
In Christ
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stuart lawrence
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What words of Christ do you keep Jason?
We have already established you quoting many scriptures to tell your readers they must obey Christ's commands, And yet, you yourself do not even try to obey them all. Therefore, by demanding of others what you do not demand of yourself, you fail to show love to your neighbour.
Christ's words were all about loving God and your neighbour.
When you start showing your Christian neighbours love, mercy and compassion you will show Gods word is in you by your love for others. That love will grow and be perfected in you
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Just the truth. There were insincere people in NT times who sought to use grace as a licence to sin( jude4)
But that didn't stop grace being preached, and it must not now either
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That is the common excuse made by Eternal Security Proponents. Folks like this were never saved (or they never truly believed) must be the only explanation. Yet, he seem to profess and preach the same message everyone here is preaching. He seemed to believe to me by what he said. But what about lying? What if he simply lied a lot? Or what if he looked at porn a lot? Is he still not a true believer if he did these sins? Gotquestions says that in Eternal Security, a believer can be saved in a backslidden state of sin. Do you believe that?
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Insincerity is just a sin. If he believed in Jesus and he believed similar to you in that one is saved by a belief in Jesus alone and not of works or holiness, then you should expect to see George Sodini in Heaven. According to you, no sin should separate a believer from God. One is not under a law of righteousness, right?
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Absolutely Christians are not under a law of righteousness. Paul states that multiple times. Yet some refuse to accept what he wrote
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So George Sodini could be in Heaven then if he really believed?
Perhaps he was just weak, right?
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Let's say he really believed with all his heart in Jesus as his Savior. Let's just say he had a moment of weakness. He could be saved, right? By your throwing the question mark up there, this suggests that there is a possibility he could be saved. But if such is the case, then you need to preach from the roof tops how effective Eternal Security really is by saying that one can live like the devil and still be saved as long as they believe in Jesus. No future unrepentant sin too big for Jesus to cover, right?
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