Salvation Anxiety

[Kenny'sID]

What?

Yours sounds like classic OCD...if that offends you, I'll leave it at that.

 

[DeerGlow]

Yours sounds like classic OCD...if that offends you, I'll leave it at that.

No I just did not understand you. I have not been diagnosed officially with OCD but most people on here will agree it is very possible.

 

[Kenny'sID]

No I just did not understand you. I have not been diagnosed officially with OCD but most people on here will agree it is very possible.

There are so many that pass through here, I forget who is diagnosed and who is not.

Honestly, I really think you need to look into it. The problems you describe are nearly verbatim to what I've heard here many times before from people with the condition.

The advice I gave? I'm not positive, and that's why I hope others will chime in.

 

[HereIStand]

I have a lot of anxiety and fear about not being saved but don't know how to be saved. I have been afraid of the unpardonable sin (Matthew 12, Mark 3, Luke 12), the mark of the beast (Revelation I don't know what even the number six by itself sets off impulsive thoughts), apostasy and wilful sin/leaving the faith for itching ears (Hebrews 6, Hebrews 10, mentioned in 2 Timothy and 2 Peter I think I do not know where). Also Matthew 7:21 (?) makes me nervous that not all faith and not everyone who calls Lord will be saved. Proverbs 1 also causes anxiety, and the scriptures about, "These people honour me with their lips but their hearts are far from me." How can I overcome the fear, and "confirm my calling and election" and be saved and gain assurance?

Edit: Grammar mistake.

I really struggled for a time with the idea of the unpardonable sin. Continually, I would have blasphemous thoughts. I felt condemned. As I mentioned on another thread, every person is unique. Letting the thoughts go in my case helped. Don't pause to mentally ask forgiveness each time you have a thought. That will only make things worse. Pray at the beginning and end of each day, and go about your day. You might feel psychological guilt because of this. Let this go also. God has forgiven you. Psychologically, you must embrace this.

 

[Kenny'sID]

No I just did not understand you.

I reread my post about verifying my advice right or wrong and I see how it was easily confusing, but my last post should have made it clear.

 

[Solomons Porch]

No need for me to post so I "snatched from some others friends" to say that I agree with these quotes and you are very loved DG - let it sink in sweety

I tend to emphasise God's mercy

If your faith is in Jesus, and continues to be in Jesus you will be saved

You have nothing to fear. You are saved. Give Him praise, not doubt!!!

you can let go of all these terrorising fears and rest easy! Just get quiet, shut out all those dark thoughts for a moment and listen and let God show you just how much He loves you.

There are no works for salvation. The only work we have is to believe that Christ's atonement is total and complete until we leave this world. The Lord wants us to trust Him

Our salvation is based upon His love for us first and our love for him in response. Do you not love the Lord? He said he would never leave you nor forsake you. You would have to forsake him. Do you want to forsake him? I doubt it. Otherwise you would not express your concern.

Wow, look at all these replies. There's like about 22 of them in an hour. These people must care about you DGlow.

Your anxieties about salvation show that you fear God, that you love God, that you have the Spirit and you are saved.

He will break through to you and He will show you how great His love is

The way that I was saved when I was an atheist: by hearing and believing the word of God and being healed by my Lord from a debilitating medical condition.

thoughts that need to be ignored in your case.

 

[DeerGlow]

I reread my post about verifying my advice right or wrong and I see how it was easily confusing, but my last post should have made it clear.

I understand you now. I would like diagnosis but kind of fear actually going to a psychologist.

 

[Dave Watchman]

"snatched from some other friends"

"and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father,
who has given them to me, is greater than all,
and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s Hand.
I and the Father are one.”​

 

[Kenny'sID]

I understand you now. I would like diagnosis but kind of fear actually going to a psychologist.

OK, though I recommend you do, I get that you don't want to, and if you insist on not, I would at least get online, research it yourself, and try to find out if the problem relates to you, and what others do about it.

As I understand it, it's a very serious problem that can be somewhat controlled with medication.

Also, I'm undecided on how much I should go on about the possibility of this being demonic in nature, but I will say, include that possibility in you research, and you decide for yourself. If that is the case...prayer, prayer from here, prayer from you and wherever you can get it may be the best solution. That said, I'll make the request for you, for any we can get here.

 

[DeerGlow]

OK, though I recommend you do, I get that you don't want to, and if you insist on not, I would at least get online, research it yourself, and try to find out if the problem relates to you, and what others do about it.

As I understand it, it's a very serious problem that can be somewhat controlled with medication.

Also, I'm undecided on how much I should go on about the possibility of this being demonic in nature, but I will say, include that possibility in you research, and you decide for yourself. If that is the case...prayer, prayer from here, prayer from you and wherever you can get it may be the best solution. That said, I'll make the request for you, for any we can get here.

It scares me because of what others say, all mental disorders being demons. Demons can bother you but I think that is different from an actual disorder. Still, I think they will see me as pathetic and crazy or lying.

 

[Kenny'sID]

It scares me because of what others say, all mental disorders being demons. Demons can bother you but I think that is different from an actual disorder. Still, I think they will see me as pathetic and crazy or lying.

Then, though I would look into it still, don't worry so much about the Demon part. If an annalist thinks you crazy for something this common, they got no business in the business.

They won't.

 

[DeerGlow]

Then, though I would look into it still, don't worry so much about the Demon part. If an annalist thinks you crazy for something this common, they got no business in the business.

They won't.

I didn't mean OCD I mean Schizophrenia also is a possibility, and

 

[dqhall]

I have a lot of anxiety and fear about not being saved but don't know how to be saved. I have been afraid of the unpardonable sin (Matthew 12, Mark 3, Luke 12), the mark of the beast (Revelation I don't know what even the number six by itself sets off impulsive thoughts), apostasy and wilful sin/leaving the faith for itching ears (Hebrews 6, Hebrews 10, mentioned in 2 Timothy and 2 Peter I think I do not know where). Also Matthew 7:21 (?) makes me nervous that not all faith and not everyone who calls Lord will be saved. Proverbs 1 also causes anxiety, and the scriptures about, "These people honour me with their lips but their hearts are far from me." How can I overcome the fear, and "confirm my calling and election" and be saved and gain assurance?

Edit: Grammar mistake.

I remember I was on a job taking an unscheduled break when a manager showed up. I had fear inside of me as I knew they wanted me to be working. I got up and started to work. While at home I have some rest time, but realistically I prayed to God for more work, and study assignments. I got to read and reread books. I have the Internet. It is not like there is nothing to do.

A field may produce a crop or weeds. It is up to you to fill your schedule.

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

Sorry slightly off topic but I think fear and trembling of the Lord is useful when we are completely ignoring God. I am reminded of my hedonistic secular days when my false god was excitement and thrills. I needed a serious wake-up call. Then the fear of the Lord is totally relevant!

 

[LostChildinTheMidst]

I have the same anxieties. Fearing God is a GOOD thing. When you start to lose the fear of God is when you are in bad shape. I would say pray, pray, pray, pray about EVERY fear and anxiety you have. I go in prayer begging God to keep me from falling until the end daily... people who don't fear they won't be saved might be perishing themselves. I have this extreme fear of turning to God, my life being blessed, God baptizing me in His spirit, and then my heart turns cold and I turn away... so I pray against it constantly because this IS a possibility. You sound like you are on the right track, although anxiety and fear are not of God. Just never give up, friend. Tell God exactly how you feel. He is a good, good father and listens.

I was just like you I had a fear of my heart turning away I used to be super afraid but now I hid my fear I'm starting to become careless and im starting to backslide the truth is I'm afraid of what will happen but I'm so tired of being afraid of God I'm tired of feeling condemned so I numb my mind by being in the world sometimes I pray for gods grace to intervene so I will change but I don't really know god chooses who he wants and maybe I'm not the one he chose I used to pray God wouldn't let me fall away

 

[Kenny'sID]

I didn't mean OCD I mean Schizophrenia also is a possibility, and

Whatever it is, can you live with it without too much trouble?

 

[Tomm]

I have a lot of anxiety and fear about not being saved but don't know how to be saved. I have been afraid of the unpardonable sin (Matthew 12, Mark 3, Luke 12), the mark of the beast (Revelation I don't know what even the number six by itself sets off impulsive thoughts), apostasy and wilful sin/leaving the faith for itching ears (Hebrews 6, Hebrews 10, mentioned in 2 Timothy and 2 Peter I think I do not know where). Also Matthew 7:21 (?) makes me nervous that not all faith and not everyone who calls Lord will be saved. Proverbs 1 also causes anxiety, and the scriptures about, "These people honour me with their lips but their hearts are far from me." How can I overcome the fear, and "confirm my calling and election" and be saved and gain assurance?

You can balance your anxiety and fear with prayers, spiritual reading and Christian meditation.
Good works would also help.

 

[DeerGlow]

Whatever it is, can you live with it without too much trouble?

Yes, but when people suggest demons cause illness it is discouraging.

 

[DeerGlow]

I feel like this is getting off topic. I just have lurking dread right now, like there are bad things coming.

 

[HereIStand]

I feel like this is getting off topic. I just have lurking dread right now, like there are bad things coming.

I really think that you'd feel better if you try to let thoughts go. It's easier said than accomplished, I know. It seems like you are just a very sensitive person who is being tormented. It's unnecessary. You have no grave sins to repent of.

***typo in earlier post, which read as necessary***