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I feel that I'm probably going to Hell.

Yet I don't feel afraid anymore. It used to bring me to tears but not for the past day.

I'm still going to try to follow Jesus and do as God commands, to the amount that I can, but even then I don't think I'll go to heaven.

I can't help but feel my best isn't good enough.
Congratulations Christian! There is not one human being on this planet that is deserving. We like sheep have gone astray and have been letting Our Own Way and the Lord has laid upon Him the iniquity of us all.

Key words our own way. That is a struggle of the flesh against the spirit. I don't think any person on the face of the planet who claims to be a Christian has not struggled with this. So relax you're in good company. When I feel like this and on occasion I still do I find that the problem is that I am not in the word. So my advice to you is get in the word read read the word let the word come alive in your heart and God will speak to you and provide you comfort and hope in the promises.
 
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It's OK. None of us are "good enough". God loves us anyways, and sent Jesus to show us that and forgive our sins.



That doesn't mean it's the last word for us. Sometimes people misuse or misread verses like this to harm or manipulate people spiritually. This is a reason you need a good church where people will help you understand the Bible and live out being a Christian.



God doesn't necessarily require us to stop playing video games or watching Youtube videos.

I belong to one of those "liberal churches". We don't necessarily think of ourselves as liberals, that's a label somebody else put on us. A "liberal church" may be just where you need to go to grow spiritually. We do in fact read the Bible, quite a bit, in our churches, even if we try to relate what the Bible says to our modern lives.

"Whosoever Will May Come" is a good group here on the forums to ask more questions about this particular way of being Christian.

Our own labels 'liberal' and 'conservative' are only human ...incompleteness. Little pieces of truth, but not all the Truth, we know. :) As Paul wrote it --

8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears.

In Christ, 'liberal' and 'conservative' will disappear, when completeness comes.

As we follow Him we are called past only 'liberal' or 'conservative' to more, following His way, the greater truth.
 
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I feel that I'm probably going to Hell.

Yet I don't feel afraid anymore. It used to bring me to tears but not for the past day.

I'm still going to try to follow Jesus and do as God commands, to the amount that I can, but even then I don't think I'll go to heaven.

I can't help but feel my best isn't good enough.

Your best isn't good enough - no-one's is.
You desire to follow Jesus, put him first - your username is Jesus4ever - and obey God; you'll only be in hell after death if this changes, you walk away from God and start following, and worshipping, yourself.
Heaven cannot be earned by good deeds. Jesus is the only way to the Father, no-one else, and you have Jesus.
 
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And yet, though Jesus died for our sins and it's a free gift that we receive as long as we believe, it says in scripture that few that call Him Lord will go to Heaven...

My feeling is that that means paying lip service - eg singing Jesus is Lord - but not applying or practicing it.
Jesus also said that whoever comes to him will NEVER be turned away, and that NO-ONE can snatch us from his hands.
 
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I feel that I'm probably going to Hell.

Yet I don't feel afraid anymore. It used to bring me to tears but not for the past day.

I'm still going to try to follow Jesus and do as God commands, to the amount that I can, but even then I don't think I'll go to heaven.

I can't help but feel my best isn't good enough.

You're forgiven in Jesus Christ. He's the only one who understands how you feel, He's forgiven you everything. As He draws you closer and closer, you will see just how much love He has for you. As we follow Him in love, He shows us just how much life He can bring when we turn away from all of the distractions that hinder us from experiencing eternal life. Have you been water baptised in full immersion water?
 
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You're forgiven in Jesus Christ. He's the only one who understands how you feel, He's forgiven you everything. As He draws you closer and closer, you will see just how much love He has for you. As we follow Him in love, He shows us just how much life He can bring when we turn away from all of the distractions that hinder us from experiencing eternal life. Have you been water baptised in full immersion water?

No I have only been baptised as an infant.

But I don't know any Christians who could do it. And there is not a lot of churches in my area that believes in re-baptism.
 
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No I have only been baptised as an infant.

But I don't know any Christians who could do it. And there is not a lot of churches in my area that believes in re-baptism.

It can be done in any large body of water. My advice is to try and find someone who can baptise you in full immersion water, in Jesus name as a pledge of good conscience toward God. 1 Peter 3:21.

The most important thing is that you believe in Jesus Christ as the propitiation for remission of sin. The Churches around you should not be preventing anyone from being baptized...it sounds like they are not being led by the Spirit of God as much as they ought to.
 
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It can be done in any large body of water. My advice is to try and find someone who can baptise you in full immersion water, in Jesus name as a pledge of good conscience toward God. 1 Peter 3:21.

The most important thing is that you believe in Jesus Christ as the propitiation for remission of sin. The Churches around you should not be preventing anyone from being baptized...it sounds like they are not being led by the Spirit of God as much as they ought to.

It's because they believe in infant baptism, so to them it would be re-baptism which would go against their faith.
 
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I feel that I'm probably going to Hell.

Yet I don't feel afraid anymore. It used to bring me to tears but not for the past day.

I'm still going to try to follow Jesus and do as God commands, to the amount that I can, but even then I don't think I'll go to heaven.

I can't help but feel my best isn't good enough.

You got to fight fire with fire. Just dive deeper into the bible and church. I had this same thing happen to me when I was 16 but I just let myself slowly falll away until I wasn't only indifferent, but had a deep hate for God.

Talk to local Christians, listen to sermons, Christian music, go to church as often as you can, and PRAY. We all need support when our faith waivers.
 
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I feel that I'm probably going to Hell.

Yet I don't feel afraid anymore. It used to bring me to tears but not for the past day.

I'm still going to try to follow Jesus and do as God commands, to the amount that I can, but even then I don't think I'll go to heaven.

I can't help but feel my best isn't good enough.

That's because your best isn't good enough. You are trying to do what only God can do. Abide in him! John 15:1-13
 
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I'm still going to try to follow Jesus and do as God commands, to the amount that I can, but even then I don't think I'll go to heaven.

I can't help but feel my best isn't good enough.

I think it is good, if person understands when he has not done all as he should, but is also good to remember, it eternal life doesn’t depend on persons own actions, it depends on is person righteous.

These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
Mat. 25:46

And person who understands when he has not done all perfectly, can be counted as righteous, as this following example shows:

Two men went up into the temple to pray; one was a Pharisee, and the other was a tax collector. The Pharisee stood and prayed to himself like this: 'God, I thank you, that I am not like the rest of men, extortioners, unrighteous, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week. I give tithes of all that I get.' But the tax collector, standing far away, wouldn't even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me, a sinner!' I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted."
Luke 18:10-14

I have understood righteousness means that person has right understanding, which makes him want to do right actions. But actions are not really what counts, right mind is. It is possible to enter into Kingdom of Heaven, even if one has not done all perfectly.

"Don't think that I came to destroy the law or the prophets. I didn't come to destroy, but to fulfill. For most assuredly, I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not even one smallest letter or one tiny pen stroke shall in any way pass away from the law, until all things are accomplished. Whoever, therefore, shall break one of these least commandments, and teach others to do so, shall be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven; but whoever shall do and teach them shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.
Mat. 5:17-19
 
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I feel that I'm probably going to Hell.

Yet I don't feel afraid anymore. It used to bring me to tears but not for the past day.

I'm still going to try to follow Jesus and do as God commands, to the amount that I can, but even then I don't think I'll go to heaven.

I can't help but feel my best isn't good enough.
The "fear of hell.bringing you to tears"'is one of the main reasons I'm beginning to doubt Christianity. Motivation through fear is not love.
 
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I feel that I'm probably going to Hell.

Yet I don't feel afraid anymore. It used to bring me to tears but not for the past day.

I'm still going to try to follow Jesus and do as God commands, to the amount that I can, but even then I don't think I'll go to heaven.

I can't help but feel my best isn't good enough.

Most people die the first death and rest in the grave and you should not fear that, fear the second death for sure. So you think you are not saved; most people experience doubts; some people back slide and have to come again, by being baptised again; keeping the commandments before you are saved is putting the cart before the horse; one enters into the covenant first then keeps the commandment.
 
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I think it is good, if person understands when he has not done all as he should, but is also good to remember, it eternal life doesn’t depend on persons own actions, it depends on is person righteous.

These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
Mat. 25:46

And person who understands when he has not done all perfectly, can be counted as righteous, as this following example shows:

Two men went up into the temple to pray; one was a Pharisee, and the other was a tax collector. The Pharisee stood and prayed to himself like this: 'God, I thank you, that I am not like the rest of men, extortioners, unrighteous, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week. I give tithes of all that I get.' But the tax collector, standing far away, wouldn't even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me, a sinner!' I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted."
Luke 18:10-14

I have understood righteousness means that person has right understanding, which makes him want to do right actions. But actions are not really what counts, right mind is. It is possible to enter into Kingdom of Heaven, even if one has not done all perfectly.

"Don't think that I came to destroy the law or the prophets. I didn't come to destroy, but to fulfill. For most assuredly, I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not even one smallest letter or one tiny pen stroke shall in any way pass away from the law, until all things are accomplished. Whoever, therefore, shall break one of these least commandments, and teach others to do so, shall be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven; but whoever shall do and teach them shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.
Mat. 5:17-19


That last quote makes me think we do need to follow the law perfectly...
 
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The "fear of hell.bringing you to tears"'is one of the main reasons I'm beginning to doubt Christianity. Motivation through fear is not love.

But in the end, what does it matter what you think about it if it's true? Just because its something we don't like does not mean it isn't real.

Let me ask you...do you want to seek the truth or only seek out what you agree with?
 
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That last quote makes me think we do need to follow the law perfectly...

uh...no, Jesus4Ever. Don't let this throw you, sis. If you read carefully the entire book of Matthew, you'll see that Matthew gives indication in several places that Jesus "fulfilled" His purpose in satisfying the requirements of the Law on our behalf. It's just that no one likes to read the WHOLE book of Matthew, probably because it's so much easier to just read short tidbits and build entire legalistic structures out of short guesses.
 
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The "fear of hell.bringing you to tears"'is one of the main reasons I'm beginning to doubt Christianity. Motivation through fear is not love.

:sigh: ...oh, Crystal.
 
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uh...no, Jesus4Ever. Don't let this throw you, sis. If you read carefully the entire book of Matthew, you'll see that Matthew gives indication in several places that Jesus "fulfilled" His purpose in satisfying the requirements of the Law on our behalf. It's just that no one likes to read the WHOLE book of Matthew, probably because it's so much easier to just read short tidbits and build entire legalistic structures out of short guesses.

But it also says in the NT that Jesus came to fulfill the law, not make it obsolete.
 
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But it also says in the NT that Jesus came to fulfill the law, not make it obsolete.

That's right. But when it is fulfilled, then our failure to follow it is abrogated by Christ's sacrifice on the Cross. And His death and resurrection constitute a 'new' covenant by which we have peace with God the Father. Sure, as even Paul the Apostle says, the Law is good, but it's main use is now set to the side.
 
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That's right. But when it is fulfilled, then our failure to follow it is abrogated by Christ's sacrifice on the Cross. And His death and resurrection constitute a 'new' covenant by which we have peace with God the Father. Sure, as even Paul the Apostle says, the Law is good, but it's main use is now set to the side.


But Jesus did say that only those who do the will of His Father who sent Him would go to heaven.
 
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