Your opinion is like a broken record. Verses I've shared actually SAY what I claim, unlike what you've posted.
So what's your point here?
What is plain as day is that the moment one believes they HAVE/POSSESS eternal life. Do you actually understand that?
And from THAT MOMENT of first believing, Jesus promises 3 things:
1. possession of eternal life
2. will NOT come into judgment
3. has passed (from that moment on) from death to life.
So, how can your theological opinion be correct since it requires one to 'continually do good' and to 'keep on believing' for eternal life.
Nothing of what Jesus said about it. Not even close, even.
- OK, please define and explain what Jesus means here by "have done good". Specifically.
Actually, those who don't stop at v.8 and read into ch 3 know much more than you about what Paul meant.
First, we understand that "patient continuance in doing good" means observing the Law. Then, we understand that Paul was clear about the FACT that no one will be declared righteous by observing the Law in Rom 3:20 - "Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin."
Finally, we understand that ALL of humanity is under sin and ALL have fallen short of God's glory, per Rom 3:9 - What shall we conclude then? Do we have any advantage? Not at all! For we have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under the power of sin.
and Rom 3:23 - for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
So using Rom 2:6-8 as God's plan for salvation is grievously in error.
If it were possible to fulfill those verses, then Christ died for nothing and salvation is by works. A merit system. Like the Pharisees followed.
He will certainly do that for both the saved and the unsaved.
For the saved, reward or lack of reward according to his deeds, per 2 Cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.
For the unsaved, the degree of "toleration" in the lake of fire, based on his deeds:
Rev 20:11-15
11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.
13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done.
14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.
15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.
It was Jesus Himself who introduces to us the fact that there will be levels of "toleration" in the lake of fire, per:
Matt 10:15 - Truly I tell you, it will be
more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.
Matt 11:22 - But I tell you, it will be
more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you.
Matt 11:24 - But I tell you that it will be
more bearable for Sodom on the day of judgment than for you.”
No it doesn't. But it sure seems to be way over your head.
In fact, the Bible teaches that rebellious believers (sons of God) will be disciplined for their behavior, per Heb 12. And it will be PAINFUL (v.11) and not pleasant.
Paul taught the progression of God's discipline in 1 Cor 11:30 regarding those in Corinth who were abusing the Lord's Table. Weakness, sickness, and physical death.
And none of it is pleasant, but painful.
But the real problem with your opinions is that they directly contradict Jesus' teachings and promises.
In John 5:24 He promised that when one believes, they possess eternal life and 2 other things that PRECLUDE ANY notion of loss of salvation.
In John 10:28 Jesus plainly promises recipients of eternal life that they will never perish.
Therefore, those who have OPENED ears to hear the Holy Spirit KNOW that there are NO CONDITIONS TO BE MET for avoiding the lake of fire.
Unlike your unbiblical theology, which has conditions.
