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It's very frustrating but also like I don't have the right to be frustrated. Like everything is God's and we should do as we promise but I feel like I didn't have a choice. It's like I'm sinning just by not wanting to fulfill these promises because of greed.
Work at learning to not make those promises.
 
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Exactly, that's what they are there to do. They come from our enemy the devil. That's why God said Take EVERY Thought Captive.

In my reply about the boots to you.
I also was in the same place as you.
I gave thousands of dollars away and made my self suffer in many ways. I felt pushed, pressured as, if I did not then I would be in trouble with God. Another lie.

Solution.... I will use your 30 dollars you spoke of for example.

Give God 3 dollars. Leaves you with 27 dollars.
1. Shows you trust God and He knows how important it is to you.
2. It gives God a place to work on you behalf.
3. Tithing Rights .... God rebuking the devour for your sake
4. When those thoughts come simply say no you dont. I am a tither and I gave God His Tithe and cast down those thoughts every time you think them.

In time none of this will be a problem
Blessings
FCJ

I couldn't even count how much though without "I give all of this in my hand to the Lord." popping in and frustrating me even though it shouldn't.
 
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It's hard not to think about it because of the thank you notes. I have to look at a lot of money right now and those thoughts pop in.
Makes a lot of sense. Try this... purpose in your mind and heart to give 10% of all that you have. That's what is God's request. Then tell yourself that you will not think about giving anything else till you commit some time to prayer and ask God what He desires you to do. And then if any other thought come up... practice reminding yourself that you have already made a decision and keep focused on being gratefulnto all the people who blessed you with a present.

It's something you have to practice and it will get easier the more you do it.
 
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I couldn't even count how much though without "I give all of this in my hand to the Lord." popping in and frustrating me even though it shouldn't.

Try reminding yourself that it is your choice what to give to God. Your frustration is coming from thoughts of being trapped or forced. And that is not God's way. He desires that you give joyfully out of what you have decided in your heart. He does not desire that you give out of feeling forced.

The enemy is also trying to make you feel guilty, for keeping some for yourself. God will not guilt you into anything. He is a gentleman, and would rather you give Him one penny joyfully without pressure than all of it feeling forced. It's all about the attitude of your heart with Him, not the amount. That's why Jesus made a bug deal out of the wisdom woman who only put in two mites, as verses the amount that others gave out of their abundance.
 
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Wish it was easy, but once they come in I feel guilty.

Keep trying.. It will get easier.... It's all about resisting the lies of the enemy, and he has no choice but to flee.

Father, in the name of Jesus we thank You that DeerGlow is Your sheep and she knows Your voice. We ask that You Surround her with Your peace that passes all of her understanding and give her the strength to refuse to think and accept all these thoughts that are not from You. Strongman we bind you from her mind, and loose the truth of God's Word to set her free. Bless her Lord with Your arms of peace and love, guiding her into all Your truth. In Jesus name, Amen
 
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Try reminding yourself that it is your choice what to give to God. Your frustration is coming from thoughts of being trapped or forced. And that is not God's way. He desires that you give joyfully out of what you have decided in your heart. He does not desire that you give out of feeling forced.

The enemy is also trying to make you feel guilty, for keeping some for yourself. God will not guilt you into anything. He is a gentleman, and would rather you give Him one penny joyfully without pressure than all of it feeling forced. It's all about the attitude of your heart with Him, not the amount. That's why Jesus made a bug deal out of the wisdom woman who only put in two mites, as verses the amount that others gave out of their abundance.
On the other side, I feel like I can't be frustrated because the woman gave all she had.
 
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On the other side, I feel like I can't be frustrated because the woman gave all she had. I shouldn't care about money I should give it all but at the same time it frustrates me.

True. So you have a choice to make.... Give out of pressure or out of peace.

Maybe it's time to put the thank you notes aside for a little bit and get into some prayer. Ask God to show you what His will is. And how to gain your peace from the truth of His Word. This pressure and frustration is getting in the way of your truly knowing and seeing and hearing what the spirit is saying to you. Take a step back and find some worship song on you tube or a cd or mp3 and just spend some time with the Lord. In order for you to make the right decisions, and know what He wants, you have got to find your peace in Him.

For like you said our lives belong to Him, and everything wwe have os His if we chpose to give it. So why not find out what His desire is before you do anything else? That way if you de ide tp not make a move without His leading, its already settled.
 
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On the other side, I feel like I can't be frustrated because the woman gave all she had. I shouldn't care about money I should give it all but at the same time it frustrates me.

I had another thought while I was praying for you. Think about things this way.... God judges everything we do by the attitude of our heart. We can give all we have and if we don't give in love (1Corinthians 13:1-3), we have done nothing. It goes back to Jesus being our foundation, and everything we do that is not of Him will be burned up (1Corinthians 3:12) when we stand before God in judgement. So if your giving out of compulsion and not a heart of grattitude... then it will not pleasing to Him.

Blessings my friend
 
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On the other side, I feel like I can't be frustrated because the woman gave all she had. I shouldn't care about money I should give it all but at the same time it frustrates me.
You are not her nor in the same situation AND AGAIN just more attacks on you
 
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Thank you @DeerGlow my friend for the blessings. I truly am grateful. God also wants you to see that He loves the heart that you have for Him. And how great of a giver you are. And He desires for all that you do for Him to be pleasing in His site.

Blessings to you
 
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Every time I see money my brain starts trying to promise it all to God. I know we are not supposed to swear or if we promise to the Lord fulfill it quickly but I don't mean to promise everything in sight. It's already a problem when I have to support myself how do I handle it? I can hardly put my cash in my jacket or take it out to pay and my brain tries to start promising it all away. I feel like I'm being greedy wanting to save the money I'm being given but also like come on, I didn't mean to say that. I feel obligated to do something instead of willingly giving. Am I bound to these or is it wrong to ask God to release me from hasty promises I didn't mean to say? Am I having itching ears by asking this? Do promises have any weight if they're impulsive/compulsive?
I don't give nothing to the church, I give it to people I feel can use it. Here's another way to give to God if you want to give 10% fine, if not fine.
Matthew chapter 25 verses 31-46
When the Son of Man comes" in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. he will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. Then the King will say to those on his right, Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me. then the righteous will answer him, Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and got visit you? The King will reply, I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me. Then he will say to those on his left, Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.They also will answer, Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you? He will reply, I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me. Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.
 
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I don't give nothing to the church, I give it to people I feel can use it. Here's another way to give to God if you want to give 10% fine, if not fine.
Matthew chapter 25 verses 31-46
When the Son of Man comes" in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. he will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. Then the King will say to those on his right, Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me. then the righteous will answer him, Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and got visit you? The King will reply, I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me. Then he will say to those on his left, Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.They also will answer, Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you? He will reply, I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me. Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.

Greetings,
You seem to be confusing scriptures and putting them in such a way they don't belong.
See next post please and I will explain.
Thank You !!
Blessings
FCJ
 
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Greetings Friends,
There seems to be a lot of confusion about Biblical Giving and the Tithe.

Tithing was around from the beginning, even before the law of Moses.
Being redeemed from the curse of the law or not being under the law Does Not Excuse, Throw out or destroy the Tithe.
The tithe has Not Ever been apart of the law.

Now with that said, I am going to clear the air as they say and Distinguish the Different Biblical Giving.

1. Tithe
2. Offerings
3. First Fruits
4. Alms

1. Tithe has and always will be 10 percent of your earnings.
The tithe carries a different promise with it. Malachi 3:10-12

2. Offerings are an additional form of giving and have nothing to do with the tithe.

Offerings carry different promise all together separate from the Tithe Promise.
Such As Luke 6:38
Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

Scriptures such as 2 Corinthians 9:7
Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

This Does Not Say Anything about Taking away the tithe nor Does it Say It is Ok to Determine if you want to give 10 percent or not.

This is Dealing With Offerings
However........Giving Tithe out of duty or a heart grumbling is Not Acceptable either.

3. First Fruits.
This is Not the tithe as many believe
No the First Fruits are to be Given Once A Year. It is of your Increase.

Example.
Starting January 1st you are getting a 1 dollar an hour Raise.
So on a given 40 hour work week you would now be making 40 dollars more each paycheck.
First Fruit is simply taking the First Extra 40 Dollars (just once) and Adding it with your giving that week.
This does not cancel out your tithe.

Folks act like this is too much.
Let's think about this for a moment,
For the prior 52 weeks you lived with out the extra 40 dollars a week.
So why would one more week hurt you?

The next 51 weeks you keep the 40 extra dollars each week.
The thing I want you to see is this.
Do You Love and Respect God so much that You Will Keep Him First in your life including Your Finances.

If you think God does Not Notice.....
You are not thinking correctly.

4. Alms....
This is totally separate from the other three and Is The Only One You Are Giving To Man. The other three are unto God.

Example giving to some one in need.
Helping out some one etc.

Matthew 6:3
But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

This is the only Giving where God tells us to keep it quiet and do not make a big show of it.
It's not about the giver but Protecting the ones in need. Why draw attention to them or their need.

This is only a simple example of True Biblical Giving. One can dig deep into this.

I pray this has helped some and brought a clearer understanding of True Biblical Giving.

Blessings
FCJ
 
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But I mean, what do I do when I have these thoughts? Do I ask for forgiveness, pay them, or ignore them? Ignoring is so hard because I fear being accountable for some things on judgement day.

Read 2 Tim 1:7
 
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I think that we may have the wrong idea about money. God prospers those who serve Him. Most of the scriptures about money are telling us to give to the poor, which means when we step into His kingdom we have abundance and success, so that we can afford to help those in need.. If we can't help ourselves then how can we help others. God overcame poverty at the cross and He asks that we give with a willing heart to others. He does not say give everything away and feel guilt and shame, for having wealth as this is not part of His kingdom.
Proverbs 10:4 He becometh poor that dealeth with a slack hand: but the hand of the diligent maketh rich.
HE wants you to be diligent and to make money. HE cannot trust those with money until they prove that they can increase it. He told that in the parable of the talents.
Deuteronomy 8:18 You shall remember the Lord your God, for it is he who gives you power to get wealth, that he may confirm his covenant that he swore to your fathers, as it is this day.
Psalm 112:3 Wealth and riches are in his house, and his righteousness endures forever.
 
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Every time I see money my brain starts trying to promise it all to God. I know we are not supposed to swear or if we promise to the Lord fulfill it quickly but I don't mean to promise everything in sight. It's already a problem when I have to support myself how do I handle it? I can hardly put my cash in my jacket or take it out to pay and my brain tries to start promising it all away. I feel like I'm being greedy wanting to save the money I'm being given but also like come on, I didn't mean to say that. I feel obligated to do something instead of willingly giving. Am I bound to these or is it wrong to ask God to release me from hasty promises I didn't mean to say? Am I having itching ears by asking this? Do promises have any weight if they're impulsive/compulsive?

Over thirty years ago I was homeless and supporting a charitable organization from my roofing labor paycheck. I donated my blood. For all my giving, I was in a weakened state and was injured on the job. I was in need of assistance. Relatives helped me. Charity begins at home. I have to make sure I do not to give away too much, or I will be begging for assistance myself.

I have read about people who won the lottery and then splurged and gave to relatives and friends until they were broke a short time later. Others went back to gambling to try to get even more and were broke again. Professional athletes were lured into fraudulent investment schemes and lost their gains unable to regain what they once had. A pro football career might last four years. One does not get praised for investing in unsound business ventures.

If you have two coats, you might give one to a poor person who has no coat. If you give your coat to a person who has five coats, then you have failed to help the poor one without a coat on a frosty morning.

I am no longer homeless. I have a recent model car. I worry that when I try to give to the Lord, some of it is being lost to waste and inefficiency, yet I gave out of my increase. I read reports of poor people who were helped by the giving.
 
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